Is it safe for us to honey moon in Jamaica?

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Some people grew up swimming in money, so they can't fathom the idea that money doesn't grow on trees. They can't imagine worrying about paying for rent, how they're going to buy groceries or pay utilities, etc. because they always got everything they ever wanted on a silver platter.

Don´t think that applies to rareboy.

The OP is a consulting Engineer so he says.

I'm sure he's be the first to admit that he is chronically tight fisted.

You'd think he was Dutch.

(1/2 Dutch here)

I went to Costa Rica more than a year ago, and I was unemployed at the time.

 

[KaraBulut]

....If this is a honeymoon, it is the only one you should have...so choose the place the two of you would love to go to the most and make it memorable.

^QFT, mazel tov.

 

[MorrisseyX]

We are thinking of honeymooning in Jamaica. If we are to stay in a resort for a week, is it safe? Or pick a different place?

Why doesn't the OP go to Spain? Spain has great weather and very gay positive. Has the OP heard of the Stiges in Spain? Or Barcelona or Madrid? Spain is very relaxed about male homosexuality I heard nobody cares there. Or go to London or some other western European nation for your honeymoon. Makes no sense going to a homophobic country. I got to ask is the OP white or Black? I ask this question because having visited Jamaica myself and I am black. If you are white, I think people will leave you alone although they will know you are a tourist. But please USE COMMON SENSE. Do not show affection with your partner outside of the hotel if you go. Please, for your own personal safety. I do think the others are correct go somewhere else where you will be safe. Go to Spain instead.

 

[zombiekiller]

The OP is a consulting Engineer so he says.

I'm sure he's be the first to admit that he is chronically tight fisted.

You'd think he was Dutch.

(1/2 Dutch here)

I see that me being an engineer isn't going well with some people here, considering this is a constant point of attack. So, from now on, just think of me as a day laborer.

Just because this is a honey moon doesn't mean I want to kill my savings with it. I'd rather live a comfortable life in the long run than kill my savings to act like kings for a week.

 

[pat grimshaw]

....a constant point of attack....

I noticed that old Canadian stopped attacking you for a little while but they just contain their natural instincts.

 

[Kyanimal]

May I offer an overlooked alternative?

Honeymoon on Cape Cod!

Provincetown, at the tip, is a nationally known gay mecca. Unfortunately, it's become expensive to stay there. I'd recommend searching for other places to stay on "The Cape". The prices get lower the closer you are to the mainland. It would be worth your while to rent a car to drive to P-Town.

"The Cape" is Awesome! Miles of sandy beaches and dunes. Also, TONS of Colonial History! The pilgrims landed at what is now P-Town before continuing to Plymouth.

It's also a short ferry ride to Martha's Vineyard, and Nantucket. They're both incredible.

The Caribbean has nothing on "The Cape", unless we're talking Winter.

 

[rareboy]

I see that me being an engineer isn't going well with some people here, considering this is a constant point of attack. So, from now on, just think of me as a day laborer.

Just because this is a honey moon doesn't mean I want to kill my savings with it. I'd rather live a comfortable life in the long run than kill my savings to act like kings for a week.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I think the best part about your threads is that I don't have to look at who made the thread because I can just read the title to know.

 

[zombiekiller]

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Good, now that we got that distraction out of the way.

As I was saying, not everyone wants to go all out on a honeymoon. The guys in the office seemed to be quite happy with the resorts in Jamaica. They're American owned and fenced off, hence the question.

It is rather surprising that Jamaica is still such a shithole, though, considering they could have turned it into a gold mine.

 

[zombiekiller]

I think the best part about your threads is that I don't have to look at who made the thread because I can just read the title to know.

Haha, glad I got a fan like you who follow me around and try to push my buttons.

 

[Cormac135]

Good, now that we got that distraction out of the way.

As I was saying, not everyone wants to go all out on a honeymoon. The guys in the office seemed to be quite happy with the resorts in Jamaica. They're American owned and fenced off, hence the question.

It is rather surprising that Jamaica is still such a shithole, though, considering they could have turned it into a gold mine.

Drugs and deadbeats.

 

[medic1]

^^ If you wander away from the gated holiday compounds. It seems to be shanty town after shanty town. Their culture is a very homophobic one.

Plus the guys in the office are straight are they not? Hence their perspective would be from a different view than yours. Honestly Zombie i really do not think you and your man would have a good time there.

 

[frankfrank]

it is much cheaper than, say, Hawaii with all the same benefits.

Online reviews say Sandals seem to accept gay couples just fine.

Bahamas looks really expensive.

Z, consider that you hope to do this honeymoon thing ONLY ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. I mean, isn't that the intention, right now, that you will both strive your best to stay together "until death do you part"? I don't think it's all that far-fetched, either - it's been my observation, in the past couple decades, that gay relationships are possibly MORE stable than hetero- ones, at least among those that I've been aware of.

What are you talking about; maybe a week? What's the difference between Jamaica, and one of the expensive places like Hawai'i or the French Riviera? Are you limited to a particular month or time-of-year? Choosing wisely can make a ton of difference - consider, for example, that going to Hawai'i in the summer can almost be an "escape" from oppressive Chicago, Washington DC, Dallas, etc. weather. Prices in the tropics are higher during northern winters.

OK, so you go to an expensive place for a week, and it costs the two of you a huge $1,700 more than Jamaica would have cost. (Even that is doubtful.) You've gone to this place that you really enjoyed, it was on your bucket list...and, for the REST OF YOUR LIFE TOGETHER, so OK, you've spent an extra $1,700 in your entire lifetime...you have this wonderful honeymoon experience you can share with each other (with the great memories even when not sharing) and maybe even tell your friends how great it was.

Do you really want to tell people for the rest of your life (while also remembering it, of course) how your one time in Jamaica was so horribly crummy because the concierge and other people at the American resort told you that you'd DAMN-better-not leave the hotel grounds, not go out and get a "feeling for Jamaica," and possibly that you DID dare go out and four guys suggested you must be gay and you just barely got away in your car? Flying to another part of the world just to be trapped in an artificial environment? I think not. You might as well just go on the cheap and book a week in a resort in Jamaica, Queens (a "cheaper" part of New York City). At least you'll actually be able to "get out and about" in reasonable safety.

You might even consider thinking "outside the box" and go someplace like Dubrovnik, Croatia - OK not like Croatia is entirely welcoming and embracing of LGBT, but there aren't laws against it, and it's a safe and beautiful country. Dubrovnik, Zadar, and Split are VERY highly regarded as European destinations and, from what I saw in the capital Zagreb (which, unlike these three cities, is inland), that country seems to have done a pretty decent job of getting their shit together, since communist Yugoslavia days. I liked Zagreb so much that RETURNING to it is on my bucket list.

Choose wisely. As I said, you will very possibly ONLY DO THIS ONCE.

I see that me being an engineer isn't going well with some people here, considering this is a constant point of attack.

I somehow missed that, Z, that you're being attacked just because you're an engineer. Whoever is doing that, PLEASE knock it off. There's nothing wrong with being an engineer. Yes, it's one-o'-dem "geeky" jobs, but IT'S ALL GOOD, and I assume it pays decently; and of course you also went into it by CHOICE. Assuming that the job is still working well for you, I applaud you for a good choice.

Provincetown, at the tip, is a nationally known gay mecca. It would be worth your while to rent a car to drive to P-Town.

ABSOLUTELY NOT IN THE SUMMER!!! At least, for the car rental and driving out part. It will take you a DAY just to get out there from Fall River or Quincy or whatever your point of reference is past Providence or Boston. It may take you half a day to get back out. It might be a little better if you're there in summer but not on any weekend. That place gets horribly jammed in summer. If you go in summer with a rental car, you may have to park miles away.

This is about 20-year-old news. Maybe it's not as intimidating anymore. Maybe they've upgraded U. S. 6 by now to accommodate the awful traffic. Though, I agree, "P-town" is wonderful...

 

[zombiekiller]

^^ You're right. He is now in Europe. We talked about it over the phone and we decided Jamaica is a no go.

Such a shame...

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Haha, glad I got a fan like you who follow me around and try to push my buttons.

What can I say? Your consistent cluelessness about the world is entertaining to me.

 

[zombiekiller]

What can I say? Your consistent cluelessness about the world is entertaining to me.

Why, thank you. You're so kind.

 

[zombiekiller]

I somehow missed that, Z, that you're being attacked just because you're an engineer. Whoever is doing that, PLEASE knock it off. There's nothing wrong with being an engineer. Yes, it's one-o'-dem "geeky" jobs, but IT'S ALL GOOD, and I assume it pays decently; and of course you also went into it by CHOICE. Assuming that the job is still working well for you, I applaud you for a good choice.

Well, the issue isn't the profession. It's that there is a small group of people who refuse to believe that I'm an engineer. That's ok. They can believe whatever they want. The thing is they continue to bring it up and how I am such a liar for claiming to be an engineer during discussions about subjects that have absolutely nothing to do with it. Didn't take rareboy long to put a negative spin on my question in this thread and then didn't take him long after to put my profession into question even though it has absolutely nothing to do with the thread subject. This has been going on for at least a year, if not more.

So, right now as I can see my fan club consists of 2 old guys, a middle age loner, and a young guy that probably has no job at all. I silently call them the 4 musketeers. They never fail to show up and put a negative spin on everything I say every time I'm around. One of them loves to say "why don't you know that, you're an engineer", or something like that. As if I'm expected to know everything just because I design and build things. Surprisingly, I only have 1 person on my ignore list.

Now, watch one of them come back and proclaim that I have insulted all French people for having called them the 4 musketeers. LOL

But anyway, that's the gist of it. I really can't start a thread or post anything without at least one of them showing up and put a negative spin on what I say. Notice how a simple question of whether it's safe or not to visit a resort in Jamaica nowadays (because the resorts are American owned) drew a direct attack and sideswipes by 3 of the 4 musketeers. I think the 4th one is sleeping or something.

 

[Alistair]

^ you're extremely naive if you believe it's only 4 people that think you lie about being an engineer

 

[zombiekiller]

^ you're extremely naive if you believe it's only 4 people that think you lie about being an engineer

As I said above, I don't mind if you guys think that. You can think whatever you want. It does get annoying when you guys would crash other subjects to bring this up.

Now, if you look a few posts before, didn't I say if it helps you can think I'm a day laborer? Just start thinking that and take the distraction away.

 

[Alistair]

As I said above, I don't mind if you guys think that. You can think whatever you want. It does get annoying when you guys would crash other subjects to bring this up.

Now, if you look a few posts before, didn't I say if it helps you can think I'm a day laborer? Just start thinking that and take the distraction away.

It's certainly more believable.