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IS MODERN POP MUSIC A LOAD OF cRAP?

Jy_Star said:
I love it when people defend rap by going YEAH WELL U SUCK LOLOL.
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And then following up that with "grow up"
ac, however, was someone to be revered. Of course, i can't stand that he keeps putting an album out every two years on average since his death, what, ten years ago? But of course i can only blame the record company and his mom...
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alas, that's not just a rap thing.

I swear that Jeff Buckley's mother is going to dig him up, force air through his rib cage and release a special 3 DVD box set of the result.
 
Soilwork said:
And then following up that with "grow up"
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Geesh, you really are dense aren't you? I was obviously poking fun at your weak, juvenile arguments. OMG RAP SUCKS BITCHES AND HOS etc.


Anyway, I'm done with this thread.
 
Um.. I didn't say "OMG RAP SUCKS BITCHES AND HOS"

I dont' think I've ever used "OMG" before this post, in fact.

Nor did I use all caps.

I said that I didn't think that rhyming "hootie" and "bootie" is an art form.

Which... I'm allowed to think. I'm also allowed to think that flying off the handle is kinda juvenile. (I didn't do that, either.)
 
Music always kicks more ass in retrospect. We can pull the good stuff forward and push the bad stuff back. And since it's not in our face all the time, even the bad stuff doesn't seem as bad as it did at the time.

1980 wasn't the year London Calling came out. I mean, it was, but that wasn't the big thing that year. The number one single was "Lady" by Kenny Rogers. But we can look back at the Clash and "Rapper's Delight", and think that 1980 kicked ass....conveniently forgeting that most of us at the time were listening to "Sailing" by Christopher Cross.

There is ALWAYS good music coming out. There's ALWAYS crap coming out, too. Sometimes it feels like there's more crap than before. So what? It just means you have to work a little harder to find the good stuff. Isn't it worth it?

Lex
 
justaguy said:
There's still good stuff about. Try the latest CD from Crowded House, or some Jack Johnson.
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Crowded House is back? Thanks for the tip!

Cool! But I don't think they count. Neil Finn is easily one of the best songwritters ever and he came out of the 80s, and doesn't really represent today's music. In any case he's an exception to any rule as far as I'm concerned.
 
G-Lexington said:
But we can look back at the Clash and "Rapper's Delight", and think that 1980 kicked ass....conveniently forgeting that most of us at the time were listening to "Sailing" by Christopher Cross.
Lex
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The author (of my post about 15 posts up) probably "tested" a few different weeks until he/she finally found two different weeks (one way back when, one in modern times) to prove the point. Of course "Sailing" actually helps to prove the point they made - they weren't commenting on the technical or stylistic qualities of the music, but only the lyrical values. "Sailing" certainly doesn't sing about crime, drugs, hoes or the like.

And there were always exceptions to the rule BACK THEN, as well. Even going back to the "Leave It to Beaver" FIFTIES, there were exceptions. After all, back in 1959, two of the very most popular songs of the year
"Stagger Lee" by Lloyd Price
"Mack the Knife" by Bobby Darin (which may have been the #1 song of the year?)
are unabashedly about MURDER. No dressing it up in veiled lyrics or anything...it was blatantly obvious.

Honorable mention would include "Tom Dooley" by the Kingston Trio from the preceding year. All of these songs hit #1 on the U.S. national charts.

But, usually, the top songs of those days were about love, dancing, record hops and other fun stuff.
 
bw92116 said:
Pop music reached its peak in the years from 1964 to 1974, then started dying around 1975 and finished dying by 1980.
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i agree, i might go back to the late 50s [ricky nelson & few others] but by the mid-70s all my music had already been produced. also most of my movies too.
 
I think that pop music hasn't been as good since the beginning of the new millennium. It's all about gimmicks now-a-days.

In the 90's, 80's etc, there used to be popular songs that at least had really god melodies and genuine talent, but now it's just a big formula. Take a pop singer, and rapper, and you got a hit.

But I do agree, there are goo pop artists out there like P!nk, Kelis, Christina Aguilera, and some others who actually bring something unique to the table.
 
My theory is that the best pop music was made when you were between the ages of seven and fifteen. Whenever that was for you. :)

Lex
 
G-Lexington said:
My theory is that the best pop music was made when you were between the ages of seven and fifteen. Whenever that was for you. :)

Lex
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Well, then again that IS kinda true, isn't it ?

*Sigh*

(although I'd up the end age to 21 or so...)
 
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