Re: Is The Surviving Boston Marathon Terrorist an "Enemy Combatant?"
Um, if I could chime in here without insulting any of my fellow posters, it seems telling that the Justice Department has chosen NOT to read the man his Miranda warning (which the Supreme Court said must be done for citizen and non-citizen alike...the latter wrongly, in my opinion).
President Obama is in charge of the Justice Department. So, this is his decision...to do something that some posters here think must be a "Republican" maneuver.
The President is defying a leftist Supreme Court decision.
If this was a Republican President, y'all would be going bonkers.
Why am I am the first one to notice this?
Help me, Jesus!
No Insult. The supreme court ruled already that in a case where terror is involved the public safety clause can be invoked.
Obama is not doing the 'republican' move because under GWB republicans decided all terrorist were to be treated as combatants in the war on terror. Which is essentially an endless war with everyone who hates us or the west. It is illogical to pursue and misguided at best. GWB used that to do enhanced interrogation to some, torture to others. He also used it to create a people existing in limbo, to which both democrats and republicans have prevented from having military tribunals, which we have had for years in these situations of combatants. But I digress. Those are the folks at GITMO.
Now before I stray toooooo terribly far. The republicans and warhawks at the time felt the criminal justice system in the United States was too weak to try enemy combatants (ala terrorist) so they refused to do so. The argument was had and it came down that most people think if we give up who we are and what we are by not using our rule of law then terror has won. SO...Since Obama has been in office he has tried religious fucking nutter after religious nutter.... I mean terrorist after terrorist in civilian federal courts.
Here is the part where the safety clause comes in....
The first guy to have the public safety clause invoked was the shoe bomber. The public FLIPPED THE FUCK OUT.... so they read him his rights almost immediately after saying they were using the clause. .... then by the time it had arrived at the New Years Day Bomber... they interrogated that guy for a few days before reading his rights. Essentially they have been pushing that length of time envelope.
Finally, we arrive at now in which the Attorney General invoked the public safety clause before we had even caught these numb-nuts. They basically said ... we will interrogate the fuck out of them and then read the rights and try them. To that end a special interrogation team consisting of FBI and US Attorneys with descend upon the guy with the hole in him and ask him what they please before he gets right read.
Oh and here is the additional kicker, before this pile of human shit can talk he has to get better... so the public safety/no miranda time is going to be a week or until he is deemed safe to wake up and interrogate by the doctors. So maybe safety is gone??? unless it leads to a plot for the next huge event .... who knows.
Some folks feel it is eroding their rights BUT as it stands unless they intend to execute a terror plot they need not worry. Oh and ANYTHING said during the pre-mirand period for public safety CANNOT be used to try the person in court. So the accused has lost nothing. The info can be used to find devices of mass destruction or a lead that takes us to another terror cell.
BTW I know your not a dad fucker but everytime I see your avatar I think of Elroy Auto.... I am sorry but I always have to do a double take....
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They said that two days ago; there would be no Mirandas here!
That is not what they said
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