Is there any Belami model who´s actually gay???

[jzpartyboy]

I live in a town with male strip clubs, and quite a few of the dancers have appeared on various gay porn websites. In fact, there are local strippers on JUB’s gallery section right now! Over the years, I’ve observed quite a few of these guys, gotten to know several of them pretty well and even messed around with a few. I can tell you without a doubt that many of these guys that I’ve come to know personally are indeed straight, but years of exposure to the “gay-for-pay” lifestyle have eliminated the inhibitions that most straight guys have about gay sex. Like many things in life, people adapt to the environment around them. Some of these guys actually get to a point where they can not only perform gay sex acts, but even appreciate gay sex as a source of physical release. But the straight ones don’t achieve emotional fulfillment, and IMO, emotional fulfillment is really what defines sexual orientation, not the ability to perform a certain type of act or even the ability to achieve physical enjoyment.

For the first several years of my sex life, I only had sex with women. I not only managed to get off, but there were a few women with whom I actually enjoyed straight sex. But I never got the slightest amount of emotional fulfillment and I always knew something was missing. Many of these gay-for-pay performers are simply living a life that is in some respects the reverse of the life that closeted gay/married men have lived for centuries. It’s absolutely wrong to conclude that a guy who claims to be straight must be lying just because he’s had gay sex for money – no matter how many times or even if he can enjoy it on a purely physical level. Until you’ve immersed yourself in that world, you can’t imagine just how many young men there are in exactly that situation. As society becomes less and less condemning of homosexuality in general, I suspect there will be more and more young straight guys who end up going down that path for a long list of reasons. But that’s another story in itself.

 

[jfrankie]

Check the latest Bel Ami model going straight:

http://**********.net/blog/ex-belami-model-etienne-pauliac-goes-straight/

I would like to see that video.

 

[heroesnhunks]

they all suck cock like straight boys - badly.

 

[TheBeast]

The are strippers and sex workers. Believe me-you don't know them. Most will say or do or be what you want them to be. I knew guys who escorted who called themselves straight because they got better rates and more business and played them "I'M A BROKE COLLEGE STUDENT NEEDING MONEY" fantasy to the hilt. If you are having gay sex over and over again and enjoying it then you are not straight. Larry Craig says he is straight do you believe him? The old guys arrested at truck stops and parks say they are straight do you believe them? The trucker suckers, t-room queens, and gloryhole girls have probably been doing this their entire adult lives.

Thankyou. I am sick and tired of seeing all these gay men who obviously admire these prostitutes (escorts is just a polite euphemism) let their fantasies rule thier thinking and just believe what flies out of any of their mouths.

It is a proven fact that if they have identified themselves as straight and act straight they get more money. See past Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher men.

Straight men do not do gay porn, you cannot turn a straight man gay or engage in gay sex with them and straight men are not even interested in gay men or doing anything with a guy at all. Why is it so hard for some gay men to understand that?

 

[TheBeast]

Gay in what sense, the romantic or the sexual?

Romantically... no, they don't bring guys home to meet mom.
Sexual.... yes, since they have a cock in their mouth.

And what difference does it make?

Umm, there's a difference. Nah, just kidding.

Though if they are one, they are the other. I mean what kind of man fucks men, but brings home a beard to meet mum? A closet case.

Pitt, how do you know they don't bring home a guy? No one knows what they do around their family so know one could possibly tell. Porn is an illusion, gay fucking on film is not.

Ask yourself that question for responding to this thread then.

Gay4pay is just a cheap marketing ploy that preys on gay mens fantasies and insecurities of masculinity. After all the evidence, gay men still refuse to believe they are being taken for a ride by porn studios trying to make that bit extra. Why does it bother me? The same way that governments continually fudge unemployment reports or that people refuse to believe that the war on Iraq is not a good thing. It's false. It's wrong. It's deceiving people.

 

[jzpartyboy]

The are strippers and sex workers. Believe me-you don't know them. Most will say or do or be what you want them to be. I knew guys who escorted who called themselves straight because they got better rates and more business and played them "I'M A BROKE COLLEGE STUDENT NEEDING MONEY" fantasy to the hilt. If you are having gay sex over and over again and enjoying it then you are not straight. Larry Craig says he is straight do you believe him? The old guys arrested at truck stops and parks say they are straight do you believe them? The trucker suckers, t-room queens, and gloryhole girls have probably been doing this their entire adult lives.

Actually, you don’t have the slightest clue about the extent to which I’ve known some of the guys who have appeared on this very site. I’ll explain why you’re wrong to assume that all men who practice gay sex are lying when they claim to be straight, but first let me acknowledge one thing. I understand that there ARE indeed gay hustlers who appear on sites that falsely portray them as being straight. In fact, I’ve met three different guys who were as gay as it gets who’ve appeared on a couple of the “fake-straight” sites that are featured here on JUB. None of those guys portrayed themselves as being straight in their private lives; they did so on the web because it was required of them by the sites on which they appeared. But I’m sure there are other gay hustlers who do try to cash in on the unfortunate gay men who confuse masculinity with being straight, and therefore favor straight men. So it’s not like I don’t understand that this happens. My point here is that it’s simplistic and wrong to assume that all men who do gay porn are gay or even bisexual. BTW, I know for sure there are also straight guys who pretend to be gay to curry favor with the bitchy gay queens who reflexively reject anyone who doesn’t claim to be gay.

I went through a wild period in my life that lasted about 10 years, where I got to know many, many guys who did escorting and some of whom did gay porn. I have a partner now, and that period of my life ended about a two years ago, but during that time I was utterly immersed in that world. I’ve known a few straight guys quite well who got caught up in that world. It didn’t turn me on that they were straight. In fact, it HUGELY disappointing in each and every case to learn that these guys were straight, even though they were all willing to have gay sex.

How can I be so sure they were straight? Well, let’s see: some of these guys lived with me for weeks or months at a time. I watched their interactions with family and friends, and just about every single person in their lives – first hand, over a period of years. I’ve been privy to every phone conversation they had during their time with me and seen every website they beat off to. I’ve personally met their spouses (yes, many of these guys are married), met their kids, their parents and grandparents. I stood in a couple of their weddings, once as the best man! I’ve fooled around with a few of them in groups with other men present and also with women, and witnessed their performance with both sexes as up close and personal as it gets. I’ve taken some of the amateur pics that some of them sent in to porn sites to try to get in the business 9always sent to straight sites first and gay as a last resort after getting rejected by their first choice). I’ve seen what makes them happy, depressed and everything in between. In summary, I’m not posting here as some guy who sat at a strip club and fantasized about some “straight-acting” dancer. I LIVED in that world alongside some of these guys as closely as anyone could – up to my eyeballs in it. I’m not proud of it, but I came away from it with an insight that most people, not even the porn hounds here on JUB, could remotely begin to appreciate about some of these guys.

And I can tell you that their sexuality is much more complex than a simple-minded rule of thumb that they must be gay if they took a dick up their ass under any circumstance. I’ve fucked women well after the period I realized I was gay and I got off on it. Not because society pressured me into doing it, because I got comfortable with it during the time before I acknowledged to myself that I was gay. So it was no big deal for me to perform with a woman when I was drunk and horny and the opportunity was right there in front of me. Does that mean I’m lying when I tell you I am absolutely, positively gay?

Some of these guys get conditioned to gay sex out of necessity, laziness, or drug-induced decision making, and then they realize it isn’t as terrible as they imagined so they are willing to do it again if there is something to be gained. But it’s not what they’re jerking off to when they’re sitting at the computer screen, or crying their eyes out because some girl dumped them.

In a way, it’s a much more interesting question to ask HOW a straight guy can wind up in gay porn. I could write a book on it. I could write a series of books, because there are many different stories. But I’m afraid that none of them are stories mainstream America would want to hear or believe. Apparently, there are many in the gay community who don’t want to believe it either. But as the taboo against homosexuality decreases, I believe there will be many more straight boys who end up on a path they never intended, and people will recognize that human sexuality is much more complex than any simple-minded rules of thumb could ever begin to describe. And eventually Hollywood or somebody else will tell this story to open-minded audiences.

 

[Dickens]

Sounds like an interesting book. You should go for it.

 

[ohplease9]

Re: Is there any Bel Ami model who´s actually gay??

I totally agree with you. I don't think those countries are hopeless in giving these guys a decent job. I've seen a clip where Ariel Vanean was interviewed. He was asked about the things that he did for days or months when he left Bel Ami (he actually rested for months). He was actually helping his family for their business. So see! You can actually make a living if you are just wise enough. There are so many ways to kill a dog. I'm Bisexual and I love both sexes. If I were straight I would never go into gay porn for pay. People on Bel Ami or other gay porn sites are either bisexual or gay. If you are straight you can never have erections or ejaculations to other men. Having an erection or ejaculations means you are turned on, horny, or whatever you call it. So there's a pleasure in it.

 

[jockofstrap]

Love watching those boys of Bel Ami

 

[MorrisseyX]

I say it over and over again, but you dumbs do not listen to me. all, I say ALL, of the Bel Ami performers are STRAIGHT, in their private lives they FUCK GIRLS, GIRLS, only GIRLS, I mean girls (a pussy and boobs, no cocks, dicks etc).

Once a producent of Bel Ami in a Slovak newspaper interview said: If I had to rely on GAYs I would never do any film.

So that is. Forget about it. Move on to a production hiring real gay actors if you like it, but as to Bel Ami you must accept that the lovely, hot guys are straight as stick.

Especially Etienne Pauliac had on a Czech dating site, something like ratemmybody.com, that he is looking for a girl.

Is it so dificult to understand it?

These men are not straight though to suck cock multiple times in a day get fucked up the ass a million times. Give me a break! These guys are most likely bisexual certainly not heterosexual. Yes they do gay porn for the money but there has to be a level of sexual atraction to do that shit over and over. Also there seems to be a weird anti gay stigma by these porn companies trying to make gay men think being gay is inferior despite having tons of gay sex. It is bullshit these men definitely are attracted to other guys

 

[MorrisseyX]

Why is that so many gay men are only turned on to think that men that participate in porn have to be straight?

I believe some models experiment and can be curious, but those that take it up the arse, and continue to do gay porn cannot claim they are straight. That is a neat little lie they tell themselves so they think their masculinity and heterosexuality is still in tact.

Just a question, how do you know they are not gay? Do you have evidence of them fucking women more times than men?

The most these men that do gay porn and work with other males can claim to be are bisexual.

Most men that do not want to admit their true sexuality are in denial, in the closet or in a stage of self delusional and loathing.



Just assume they have been fucked numerous times, have contracted at least three STD's and are probably willing to sell their bodies for a quick buck.

I get turned on by gay porn stars who are gay in real life I respect those men more. I have less respect for men who lie about their gay desire and same sex attraction just because a studio tells them so. I agree any gay man who has been fucked up the ass knows how it feels it can hurt. You feel something I find it hard to believe a man claiming heterosexuality would want a stiff hard cock up his butt. The guys getting fucked in gay porn do it for their personal pleasure. Rocco Reed is a perfect example of this. He does straight porn with the woman wearing a strap on and he has done many gay porn films getting fucked up the ass. I laugh when guys like Johnny Rapid or paddy o brien claim to be straight yet they are sucking cocks and getting fucked by multiple men. The gay for pay who are probably bisexual or bicurious and closer to sttaight are guys like Cody Cummings or Trystan Bull those guys refuse to perform oral sex on a man or get fucked by a man.

 

[MorrisseyX]

I totally agree with you. I don't think those countries are hopeless in giving these guys a decent job. I've seen a clip where Ariel Vanean was interviewed. He was asked about the things that he did for days or months when he left Bel Ami (he actually rested for months). He was actually helping his family for their business. So see! You can actually make a living if you are just wise enough. There are so many ways to kill a dog. I'm Bisexual and I love both sexes. If I were straight I would never go into gay porn for pay. People on Bel Ami or other gay porn sites are either bisexual or gay. If you are straight you can never have erections or ejaculations to other men. Having an erection or ejaculations means you are turned on, horny, or whatever you call it. So there's a pleasure in it.

You are correct male sexuality can be seen it is visible the hard on the ejaculations very hard to do you have to be turned on to some degree. These guys have to have some same sex attraction they are lying and full of shit to suggest otherwise.

 

[mikemizanin729]

These men are not straight though to suck cock multiple times in a day get fucked up the ass a million times. Give me a break! These guys are most likely bisexual certainly not heterosexual. Yes they do gay porn for the money but there has to be a level of sexual atraction to do that shit over and over. Also there seems to be a weird anti gay stigma by these porn companies trying to make gay men think being gay is inferior despite having tons of gay sex. It is bullshit these men definitely are attracted to other guys

I have to agree with you hear. No straight man will fuck any bloke unless he has some kind of sexual attraction towards them. They are at least bisexual.

The straight men fucking men for money thing is so hilarious that I just roll eyes at it.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Re: Is there any Belami model who´s actually gay??

STRAIGHT guys do not repeatedly suck, fuck and deep throat cock.

I would really love to see your evidence of this, instead of blatantly assuming.

LOL, you actually believe comments that come out of porn performers mouths and anybody involved in the production of porn? What a naive man you must be.

By the way, if you insist on insulting me by calling me dumb, do you think you could at least spell correctly and have the correct grammar.

It's always good to take the moral highground when you at least have some substance to back up your claim rather than relying on suppositions and fantasy.

I will now leave you to your delusions of STRAIGHT men taking it up the arse more times than an Amsterdam prostitute.

Well said.

 

[Windsong]

I have to agree with you hear. No straight man will fuck any bloke unless he has some kind of sexual attraction towards them. They are at least bisexual.

But all those women in heterosexual porn who do girl-on-girl scenes, they go home to lesbian relationships or identify as lesbians in their private lives? That's a huge percentage of the population of women who do porn for the heterosexual market ... and they're all actual lesbians?

Interesting theory.

Because if it's just a paying job and those women identify as heterosexual when the cameras are off, wouldn't there be a slight possibility that some of those men doing guy-on-guy also identify as heterosexual when the cameras are off? "But erections...!" can be faked or enhanced with chemicals or camera tricks, so the point there is what?

 

[kallipolis]

But all those women in heterosexual porn who do girl-on-girl scenes, they go home to lesbian relationships or identify as lesbians in their private lives? That's a huge percentage of the population of women who do porn for the heterosexual market ... and they're all actual lesbians?

Interesting theory.

Because if it's just a paying job and those women identify as heterosexual when the cameras are off, wouldn't there be a slight possibility that some of those men doing guy-on-guy also identify as heterosexual when the cameras are off? "But erections...!" can be faked or enhanced with chemicals or camera tricks, so the point there is what?

Well noted.

Cialis, Viagra and the injectible erectile-dysfunction drug Bimix shot directly into the penis ensures that a porn star can sustain an erection throughout a "shooting session"....without needing to be sexually attracted to their "on-set" sexual partner.

Labeling porn stars gay, straight, or bi speaks much more of the delusional beliefs of the labeller than it does of the porn stars earning money, acting out their roles in front of a camera.

Actors on stage, or in front of a camera perform a role whether the character is a comedian, murderer, lover, sexual partner, or any other role that is required to entertain an audience....when the day's work is completed those actors return to their homes minus the character they have portrayed in front of the camera.

 

[thales12333]

Vai se fuder quem acredita que todos sao heteros. Eu acredito que há gays e bissexuais lá e vou defender minha ideia. Fodam-se voces realistas de merda

 

[electricflame]

Homosexuality is an orientation, not a behavior. A gay closted man having sex only with his female wife is still gay.

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Conversely, a straight man that has lots of gay sex on camera, can still be straight if he is not attracted to men. And if u were to see him in a club and he wouldn't be interested in you because he isn't looking for a man, he isn't gay! Gay for pay.