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Jon Stewart on Hillary Clinton

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Jon Stewart is well known for calling bullshit - and for skewering republicans and their mouthpieces (see Bill O'Reilly). He's a liberal make that progressive guy that is able to both poke fun of and make the real argument through satire mostly

Simply put ......

"A very bright woman w/o the courage of her convictions .......

Because I'm not even sure what they are"

He then proceeds to explain himself with host David Axelrod

Good look into Hills by a sharp guy

He gave props to Kirsten Gillebrand btw, Senator from NY

Axelrod agreed with Stewart and referenced her "7 second delay and all the words come out in a perfectly politically calibrated sentence"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...illary_clinton_ignored_by_media_all_week.html
 
I agree with old Johnny boy, Hillary can sound like a robot in some of her speeches.

BTW, would anybody be against revoking the 22nd amendment and having 4 more years of Obama??? That sounds amazing compared to Hillary or Trump.
 
ive been saying for months she doesnt stand for anything, every democrat knows shes a coward but are supporting her because shes bill Clinton wife.
 
I think he sums up Bernie pretty well:

"What gives me hope in that is that there is a delay, which means she is somehow fighting something," he continued. "I've seen politicians render their inauthenticity in real time, and that's where you go, 'That is a sociopath.'"
 
evanrick said:
ive been saying for months she doesnt stand for anything, every democrat knows shes a coward but are supporting her because shes bill Clinton wife.
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I see evanrick has gotten his talking points email from Trump today.
 
I've always loved Jon Stewart and he's right about HRC. She's definitely a sly one, who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw.
 
I also question her marriage and relationship to old Bill, you'd think the cheating and scandals would be so publicly humiliating that she'd divorce him. But no, she's stuck around because it would further her political career to stay married to him.
 
What is it they say, ambition in a man makes you a winner, ambition in a woman makesw you a bitch.

Please, that's sexist as fuck, she only stayed married to Bill to further her political career, because obviously she's never get elected to anything as a divorcee.
 
I have no problem with her staying with Bill because she is ambitious.

Not every woman leader in history has been some wilting flower.

It can take extraordinary courage and equanimity to accept a spouse's philandering and to soldier on.

Together, they have achieved significant goals with the Clinton Foundation and may have taught the rest of philandering America a lesson about enduring through trouble in a relationship.
 
I just think she's socially awkward.
Plenty of effective leaders are, it's only in the day of televised chat shows that politicians have been required to entertain.
 
what's missing here (I think) is anyone speaking to the fact that Jon Stewart - much like Bernie Sanders - is a proud progressive voice

who has made his living taking on Repubs/Conservatives his entire career

here saying that Hills is in a word "inauthentic"

here the CNN crew addresses it - seems like Stewart's remarks about Clinton were not picked up by the media for the most part - the same media that bows to the Establishment

PS - her staying with Bill is not an issue not sure why it was brought up

what is an issue is her trying to be both a progressive and moderate - and voters realizing that she's not truthful about her positions and actions

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/05/15/sotu-panel-part-2.cnn
 
If it didn't get picked up it's because the people who run the infotainment thought it wouldn't up their ratings.

Her staying with Bill is an issue because people who have misogynist leanings think his infidelity is her fault in the first place. Which tellingly, is the first place Trump and his cronies went.
 
BenDan said:
here saying that Hills is in a word "inauthentic"
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She's not very personable. Her spontaneity circuit is a dud. She's fairly humourless, has an awkward manner and seems stressed when having to be personable in entertainment shows. That's not a reflection of her ability or her politics.
She's a nerd.
By contrast, some of history's monsters were friendly and charismatic, and were at ease entertaining and engaging a crowd.

what is an issue is her trying to be both a progressive and moderate - and voters realizing that she's not truthful about her positions and actions
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Another word for such a person might be centrist... which to be fair would match the politics of many.
 
There's a big gap between what Sanders WANTS to do and what he CAN do as President. He's being fundamentally dishonest with his supporters about this.

Brown people and realists have seen plenty of pols like Bernie. The type of legislation he wants would be more difficult to pass than the ACA.

Obama had 60 senate seats for from like September 2010 to January 2011 (5 months) and barely got the ACA through. They were working on Christmas eve to pass it. Nancy Pelosi managed to whip barely enough votes to pass the Senate version, forgo conference, and have Reid push through the finance fixes using a budgetary trick on the student loans bill.

Then Dems lost the House in a landslide because it wasn't good enough and a lot of people didn't vote in 2010.

Bernie should be telling his supporters to work from the local level up to elect Democrats. Then maybe in 2020 redistricting won't be so fucked up and we'll have a shot at the House again. Of course he's never been a Democrat or worked to elect them.

You have no idea how much hard work it takes.
 
rareboy said:
^ Pretty much this.
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that's not what Jon Stewart thinks

which is the point of the topic

progressive or moderate ? pick one

that is if you want to be authentic

you don't get to be both

not on planet earth anyway

not when your opponent actually doesn't struggle to define himself

I AM A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST

check the box

People need to actually understand who they're voting for - what they believe - what they want to accomplish

that's the point of the whole thing
 
offthewall14420 said:
There's a big gap between what Sanders WANTS to do and what he CAN do as President. He's being fundamentally dishonest with his supporters about this.
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If we ended up with a President Sanders, Congress won't possibly let him get his most robust and ambitious things done. Compared to free college tuition for all, passing Obamacare in 2010 (on Christmas!) is a leisurely walk in the park.

Comes the 2020 election, and the voters realize that Sanders accomplished almost nothing in four years - perhaps managed to get a lame $11 minimum wage passed and signed, and some toothless regulation on securities and/or banks, and not much else. Didn't stop TPP (with veto-proof majorities in Congress, including bought-and-paid-for Democrats as well as nearly all Republicans), no voting rights stuff, etc.

RESULT: A *MASSIVE* Republican landslide for Republicans...IN A CENSUS YEAR, against what is perceived as a "do-nothing" Democratic party...and "the country" is lost forever.
 
BenDan said:
that's not what Jon Stewart thinks

which is the point of the topic

progressive or moderate ? pick one

that is if you want to be authentic

you don't get to be both

not on planet earth anyway

not when your opponent actually doesn't struggle to define himself

I AM A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST

check the box

People need to actually understand who they're voting for - what they believe - what they want to accomplish

that's the point of the whole thing
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Who the hell cares what Jon Stewart thinks?

You wouldn't give a good god damn if you couldn't demonize Hillary with his opinion.
 
frankfrank said:
If we ended up with a President Sanders, Congress won't possibly let him get his most robust and ambitious things done. Compared to free college tuition for all, passing Obamacare in 2010 (on Christmas!) is a leisurely walk in the park.
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So, a Democratic congress (pickups with both houses) would not back Bernie Sanders?

What does that say about the party?

Especially if your argument is that a President Hillary Clinton would get support from both houses?

It tells me she would go for right-wing policies. (Or, if that seems harsh, center-right.)

Please have courage, frankfrank! (Didn't you mention, however long ago, that you voted the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination to Bernie Sanders?)
 
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