JUB Republicans...

[palemale]

If I would start a thread entitled "Palemale..." would you feel insulted?

Only if you said insulting things about me (like Palemale is a Republican). And MR never insulted me either, Pixie.

 

[Stardreamer]

Since you opened it to conservatives I'll weigh in, I'm a little pressed for time this morning so I'm only have March so far but here are the bills they have listed that I approve of on initial examination:

• H.R. 525 Veterinary Public Health Amendments Act of 2011
• H.R. 570 Dental Emergency Responder Act of 2011
• Efforts to defund NPR provided those efforts are directed to all government funding of domestic news programming.
• H.Con.Res 27 Accepting a statue of Gerald R. Ford from the people of the state of Michigan
• H.R. 662 Surface Transportation Extension Act of 2011

More as I have time to research.

 

[White Eagle]

I'm a little late, but he never insulted me.

 

[Stardreamer]

Okay here the complete list of what I think sounds worthwile from the GOP.gov legislative Digests for the 112th Congress. My approval is based on the excutive summaries the GOP provides so I reserve the right to withdraw my approval if details emerge that show the description provided is incorrect.

• H.R. 525 Veterinary Public Health Amendments Act of 2011
• H.R. 570 Dental Emergency Responder Act of 2011
• Efforts to defund NPR provided those efforts are directed to all government funding of domestic news programming.
• H.Con.Res 27 Accepting a statue of Gerald R. Ford from the people of the state of Michigan
• H.R. 662 Surface Transportation Extension Act of 2011
• H.R. 394 Federal Courts Jurisdiction and Venue Clarification Act of 2011
• H.R. 386 Securing Cockpits Against Lasers Act of 2011
• S. 188 Naming the courthouse under construction in Yuma AZ the John M. Roll United States Courthouse.
• H.Res. 9 Instructing certain committees to report legislation replacing the 'job killing' health care law
• H.R. 292 Stop the Over Printing (STOP) Act
• H.R. XX A resolution to Cut Congress' Budget

While I'm ambivalent on the effort to repeal Obamacare, H.Res. 9 seems to be an instruction to the committees to produce replacement health care laws for Obamacare. It calls for health care bills that:

(1) foster economic growth and private sector job creation by eliminating job-killing policies and regulations;

(2) lower health care premiums through increased competition and choice;

(3) preserve a patient’s ability to keep his or her health plan if he or she likes it;

(4) provide people with pre-existing conditions access to affordable health coverage;

(5) reform the medical liability system to reduce unnecessary and wasteful health care spending;

(6) increase the number of insured Americans;

(7) protect the doctor-patient relationship;

(8) provide the States greater flexibility to administer Medicaid programs;

(9) expand incentives to encourage personal responsibility for health care coverage and costs;

(10) prohibit taxpayer funding of abortions and provide conscience protections for health care providers;

(11) eliminate duplicative government programs and wasteful spending; or,

(12) do not accelerate the insolvency of entitlement programs or increase the tax burden on Americans.”

It also calls for a permanent fix to Medicare Physician Payments.

 

[Stardreamer]

^ I'll admit, if they can come up with something better than the current health care reform law then I'm for it.

If, also, there was a law passed that permitted the national guard to put one bullet into the back of the heads of everyone who refers to it as "Obamacare", then I'd be for that legislation too.

I remain skeptical, the GOP is more focused on killing the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (grins) and making good on the promises to the Tea Party front to cut spending than they are in fixing or replacing health care. I think this is a serious mistake but I guess they were stuck with making the repeal effort following their campaign promises. Personally I would have focused on fixing and/or replacing the problem areas of the PPACA and addressing the REAL area that act failed to adequately address which is the cost of health care. If you look at what the bill calls for, a lot of what the GOP says they want and a lot of what the PPACA does are the same things.

 

[justapixel]

If, also, there was a law passed that permitted the national guard to put one bullet into the back of the heads of everyone who refers to it as "Obamacare", then I'd be for that legislation too.

I always suspected that you would be for killing anyone you disagreed with.

Thanks for proving it.

 

[Kulindahr]

In 5-10 years we'll all be using LED globes. 90% more efficient, great light quality.

Do they come full spectrum?

 

[Kulindahr]

Amazing that's even a worry when you consider that dental amalgams are 50% mercury so, we are constantly dosing ourselves with poison anyway.

Not even close to that any more. The good stuff is some sort of porcelain, and almost matches tooth enamel.

 

[Kulindahr]

Why would I want to participate in a thread started by someone who insults everyone?

Not everyone, just most -- and that not often, only when he's on rampage.

I find no fault with your position. With regards to the Tea Party front, it is odd that repealing the law would've cost the government more money. *shrug*

I'll have to look into those other bills to see if I agree. I don't really like the idea of defunding NPR. If it is just about saving money I could think of better alternatives that would save far more than the minuscule sum that funds NPR.

I'd like to see NPR defunded, but I'd do it over four presidential terms, evenly. It's a luxury until the debt is gone.

 

[Kulindahr]

I looked up HR 662, and am not impressed. It looks like a brainless continuation of something being done more than a bit badly at this point. If they want to impress me, they'd have to double the figure appropriated, with a quarter of the total to go to fixing sub-standard US Highways. That might be enough to keep our transportation infrastructure from getting worse -- as it stands, the resolution is a commitment to allow our highway system to deteriorate slowly and steadily.

 

[Kulindahr]

Yes, LED lights can come in a full spectrum of ultra-violet to infrared corresponding to whatever its semi-conductor bandgap is.

Koolz.

I want an LED mood light. My present one sucks electricity worse than a vacuum cleaner.

 

[Stardreamer]

Not everyone, just most -- and that not often, only when he's on rampage.



I'd like to see NPR defunded, but I'd do it over four presidential terms, evenly. It's a luxury until the debt is gone.

I personally just find the idea of government supporting directly any news media bothersome. If the fourth estate is to be a watchdog of the government, they shouldn't be supported by it. but that is personal opinion.

 

[BostonPirate]

I personally just find the idea of government supporting directly any news media bothersome. If the fourth estate is to be a watchdog of the government, they shouldn't be supported by it. but that is personal opinion.

then gov't matching funds for elections need to go as well.

 

[palemale]

While I'm ambivalent on the effort to repeal Obamacare, H.Res. 9 seems to be an instruction to the committees to produce replacement health care laws for Obamacare. It calls for health care bills that:

(1) foster economic growth and private sector job creation by eliminating job-killing policies and regulations;

(2) lower health care premiums through increased competition and choice;

(3) preserve a patient’s ability to keep his or her health plan if he or she likes it;

(4) provide people with pre-existing conditions access to affordable health coverage;

(5) reform the medical liability system to reduce unnecessary and wasteful health care spending;

(6) increase the number of insured Americans;

(7) protect the doctor-patient relationship;

(8) provide the States greater flexibility to administer Medicaid programs;

(9) expand incentives to encourage personal responsibility for health care coverage and costs;

(10) prohibit taxpayer funding of abortions and provide conscience protections for health care providers;

(11) eliminate duplicative government programs and wasteful spending; or,

(12) do not accelerate the insolvency of entitlement programs or increase the tax burden on Americans.”

It also calls for a permanent fix to Medicare Physician Payments.

If you have accurately stated what is in the bill, then it has got to be the most stupid, ridiculous, sorry excuse for legislation I have ever seen. It is nothing but Republican talking points that the House of Representatives tried to enact as legislation. What a complete waste of time. It does nothing substantive. The Republicans should have been ashamed to have it printed on paper.

 

[BostonPirate]

Okay here the complete list of what I think sounds worthwile from the GOP.gov legislative Digests for the 112th Congress. My approval is based on the excutive summaries the GOP provides so I reserve the right to withdraw my approval if details emerge that show the description provided is incorrect.

• H.R. 525 Veterinary Public Health Amendments Act of 2011
• H.R. 570 Dental Emergency Responder Act of 2011
• Efforts to defund NPR provided those efforts are directed to all government funding of domestic news programming.
• H.Con.Res 27 Accepting a statue of Gerald R. Ford from the people of the state of Michigan
• H.R. 662 Surface Transportation Extension Act of 2011
• H.R. 394 Federal Courts Jurisdiction and Venue Clarification Act of 2011
• H.R. 386 Securing Cockpits Against Lasers Act of 2011
• S. 188 Naming the courthouse under construction in Yuma AZ the John M. Roll United States Courthouse.
• H.Res. 9 Instructing certain committees to report legislation replacing the 'job killing' health care law
• H.R. 292 Stop the Over Printing (STOP) Act
• H.R. XX A resolution to Cut Congress' Budget

While I'm ambivalent on the effort to repeal Obamacare, H.Res. 9 seems to be an instruction to the committees to produce replacement health care laws for Obamacare. It calls for health care bills that:

(1) foster economic growth and private sector job creation by eliminating job-killing policies and regulations;

(2) lower health care premiums through increased competition and choice;

(3) preserve a patient’s ability to keep his or her health plan if he or she likes it;

(4) provide people with pre-existing conditions access to affordable health coverage;

(5) reform the medical liability system to reduce unnecessary and wasteful health care spending;

(6) increase the number of insured Americans;

(7) protect the doctor-patient relationship;

(8) provide the States greater flexibility to administer Medicaid programs;

(9) expand incentives to encourage personal responsibility for health care coverage and costs;

(10) prohibit taxpayer funding of abortions and provide conscience protections for health care providers;

(11) eliminate duplicative government programs and wasteful spending; or,

(12) do not accelerate the insolvency of entitlement programs or increase the tax burden on Americans.”

It also calls for a permanent fix to Medicare Physician Payments.

It pains me to be the one that has to be this blunt, but....

WHERE ARE THE BILLS FOR THE FUCKING JOBS????????

gerald ford statues and post office namings????

this is the stuff you can point to as a point of pride?

It doesn't shame you that the republicans won the house of reps on a platform and set of promises that half of which have been thrown out the window and the other half has been ignored?

Who cares about veterinary bullshit?

securing cockpits against lasers???? are we stuck in star trek land?

WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOUR GUYS PROMISED????

 

[Stardreamer]

If you have accurately stated what is in the bill, then it has got to be the most stupid, ridiculous, sorry excuse for legislation I have ever seen. It is nothing but Republican talking points that the House of Representatives tried to enact as legislation. What a complete waste of time. It does nothing substantive. The Republicans should have been ashamed to have it printed on paper.

Really, many of the bullets are supposed to be the same goals of the health care bill? Was that a waste?

 

[Stardreamer]

It pains me to be the one that has to be this blunt, but....

WHERE ARE THE BILLS FOR THE FUCKING JOBS????????

gerald ford statues and post office namings????

this is the stuff you can point to as a point of pride?

It doesn't shame you that the republicans won the house of reps on a platform and set of promises that half of which have been thrown out the window and the other half has been ignored?

Who cares about veterinary bullshit?

securing cockpits against lasers???? are we stuck in star trek land?

WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOUR GUYS PROMISED????

I simply answered the question, these are the things they have put forward that I find worthwhile. I don't take any real pride in the Republicans performance this Congress. I'm rather disappointed with them.

 

[BostonPirate]

I simply answered the question, these are the things they have put forward that I find worthwhile. I don't take any real pride in the Republicans performance this Congress. I'm rather disappointed with them.

Do you think that they will address the jobs issue before the nation, or the real fact that the budget simply cannot be ballanced without a series of tax increases? The democrats in washington seem willing to let alot of really important liberal programs go on the chopping block, and now its time for your guys to put some skin in the fix.

Are they going to have the courage to tell america that they are going to have to raise taxes to ballance the budget?

Are they going to do anything real for SMALL business that will spark real job growth? Loan guarantees paid for through taxes? ANYTHING?

Anyone even indicating that they are considering the pain america is in right now? I don't see it.

I see abortion votes and healthare repeals that EVERY BREATHING AMERICAN knows was an utter waste of time. They would have been vetoed and we all know it. It was the takeover of a political agenda for a month or two and it accomplished nothing for the nation in anyway. 13 percent of all homes in america are now vacant and the unemplyment rate is in the upper 8 percent.

A month of dithering and misreading the constitution, and they have not even been able to pass republican sponsored bills through the republican majority house.

Do you feel as a member of the party, that you are complicit in this absolute incompetence on display as americans go hungry and homeless? You voted for these people and promoted them to other voters... When are you going to accept responsibility for that and demand that these guys get their damned act together?

 

[Stardreamer]

Do you think that they will address the jobs issue before the nation, or the real fact that the budget simply cannot be ballanced without a series of tax increases? The democrats in washington seem willing to let alot of really important liberal programs go on the chopping block, and now its time for your guys to put some skin in the fix.

Are they going to have the courage to tell america that they are going to have to raise taxes to ballance the budget?

Are they going to do anything real for SMALL business that will spark real job growth? Loan guarantees paid for through taxes? ANYTHING?

Anyone even indicating that they are considering the pain america is in right now? I don't see it.

I see abortion votes and healthare repeals that EVERY BREATHING AMERICAN knows was an utter waste of time. They would have been vetoed and we all know it. It was the takeover of a political agenda for a month or two and it accomplished nothing for the nation in anyway. 13 percent of all homes in america are now vacant and the unemplyment rate is in the upper 8 percent.

A month of dithering and misreading the constitution, and they have not even been able to pass republican sponsored bills through the republican majority house.

Do you feel as a member of the party, that you are complicit in this absolute incompetence on display as americans go hungry and homeless? You voted for these people and promoted them to other voters... When are you going to accept responsibility for that and demand that these guys get their damned act together?

You seem to be under the mistaken impression I'm a Republican.

 

[BostonPirate]

You seem to be under the mistaken impression I'm a Republican.

Do You identify yourself as a non affiliated conservative?