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Just looking for Advice (straight guy story)

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OK, so here is the story from start to now.

And let me tell you, the guy is not straight. He's definitely gay or interested in men, and I'd even say interested in ME. I just don't know what's next.

The beginning was meeting him because he is in the same program in school. He is a year below me. I flirted really hardcore, having that initial attraction, while knowing he had a girlfriend. He wasn't too interested, and very resistant. So I shrugged it off. We hung out only a few times during the fall and my sexuality came up at brief moments where he would ask if I suck dick, and if I think it's cheating on a boyfriend if I screw a girl. I said yes and asked him if he thinks it's cheating if he slept with a guy. He said if he "boned" a guy he thinks it's cheating. Wow.

At the end of the fall semester we were under the mistletoe at a bar so I asked him to kiss me. He got awkward but I think he wanted to, then shied off and said "maybe someday".

So this semester I made more of an effort. After some initial efforts, he dumped his girlfriend. Then I made the mistake of talking about it. I liked him and when people asked if I think he is gay I told them ya, it's possible. That got around to him and it was a month of awkwardness and he was not a fan of me at all. At the end of that time, he got together with his ex-girlfriend.

Then it was time for a vacation I invited him on which he agreed to before the fallout. We bonded and became great friends and have been hanging out since. Times are good and I feel him and I know he feels me. I know some of you understand what I mean when you have those intense feelings and you just...know. That's what it is. But the take home came a week ago, when I was standing around and he touched my shoulder and said congrats to me, and then it dropped to my ass on accident and he said "sorry, or am I? Then said...think about it. And let me know before you leave."

When I approached him to hang out over the summer, he was again resistant and said he would see me at our next event. You know how it is. One step forward and 2 steps back. We have one more event scheduled together over a month from now. I feel like I can't stop thinking about him and I know he is the same with me.

My approach is just turning this into as normal a friendship as I can, inviting him to group events and talking to him at these, because the flirting always escalates and I get new answers. This is what I want to do over the next month, until we have our own thing together...one last definite way of spending time with him.

Do you think there is a chance of him ever coming out? Do these people ever take all of the steps forward or does it stay this way forever? I am tired of playing these games so cautiously but at the same time he is really the only person worth my time right now anyway.

He is just a really good person overall and I would hate to lose him. He's incredible and kindhearted and everything I could ever want. Kind of amazing.

I guess let me know if you think of any other strategies to use...or if I'm doing anything wrong. Or right. It's hard to be patient but I don't see any other way of tackling this situation. I just want to know that it either is or isn't hopeless after 9 months of effort. Thanks.
 
I guess let me know if you think of any other strategies to use...or if I'm doing anything wrong. Or right. It's hard to be patient but I don't see any other way of tackling this situation. I just want to know that it either is or isn't hopeless after 9 months of effort. Thanks.

Friendships aren't strategy. And it's not fair to expect a friend to be something that he doesn't want to be or is not ready to be.

Stop the flirting. Either be his friend and accept him for who he is or move on to someone who can return your interest.
 
Why torture yourself? Even after this long cat and mouse game there's always the chance youre not his type. I know of two guys such as yourself and your friend. After all the flirting one guy (your part in the story) came to find out that the other guy had been playing with other guys all along.
 
Just leave things as they are, if he isn't comfortable right now, forcing it may just end up making it worse and ruining your friendship too. Just go with the flow, if its meant to be it will happen. Don't try to hard, if he starts flirting with you, flirt back.... if he doesn't don't flirt with him
 
Thanks. illgetbi its nice to hear that from you.

I don't ever flirt with him unless he flirts with me first. I am going to start trying to date other people and we'll see what happens. Ya, I definitely want to stay friends for now. I wish you guys wouldn't see me as forcing it...I'm just bringing it up because he has been coming on a lot stronger lately, not me so much. OK thanks a lot.
 
I never said you were forcing it and I hope you don't think that. I just wanted to let you know that the best way to keep your friendship is to let him make moves on you as he is comfortable :) Good luck though! Keep me updated :D
 
It sounds all terribly destructive and emotionally unhealthy for both of you.

Seriously.

Is this the best you can do?

He sounds more like prey, or a conquest than someone you are pursuing because you both have the same interests and enjoy one another's company.

I think it is time for you to sit down and quietly think about the motivations for your behaviour and desire.
 
I think it is actually the opposite rareboy. He is someone who I relate to on so many levels. We are so much alike in how we talk to people, make friends, and have fun. We are just happy around each other, and you can feel that. we have very similar hobbies. He has been my "prey" I guess for this long only because of those things...I wouldn't have put forth this much if I didn't enjoy his company.

Regardless, I am now seeing other people because it's stupid to dwell on one person. I need to at least see if I can find a connection with someone else. Here's to hoping..
 
Well, it’s hard to believe you because you started out like this:

… I flirted really hardcore, having that initial attraction, while knowing he had a girlfriend. He wasn't too interested, and very resistant...

At the end of the fall semester we were under the mistletoe at a bar so I asked him to kiss me. He got awkward but I think he wanted to, then shied off and said "maybe someday".

I liked him and when people asked if I think he is gay I told them ya, it's possible. That got around to him and it was a month of awkwardness and he was not a fan of me at all. At the end of that time, he got together with his ex-girlfriend.

When I approached him to hang out over the summer, he was again resistant and said he would see me at our next event... I feel like I can't stop thinking about him and I know he is the same with me.

My approach is just turning this into as normal a friendship as I can, inviting him to group events and talking to him at these, because the flirting always escalates and I get new answers. This is what I want to do over the next month, until we have our own thing together...one last definite way of spending time with him.…

(emphasis mine)

Then you end by asking us if we can improve your “strategy.”

…I guess let me know if you think of any other strategies to use...or if I'm doing anything wrong. Or right. It's hard to be patient but I don't see any other way of tackling this situation. I just want to know that it either is or isn't hopeless after 9 months of effort. Thanks…


No offense but that looks like this “friendship,” is a sexual agenda. I wouldn’t appreciate that gay or straight.

So what other strategies should you use? How about, stop wasting your time with a straight guy/closet case. What do you expect to get out of this?

You already outed him once (not cool) and he got pissed off, where do you see this going?

He’s not going to come out (if he even is gay) until he’s comfortable with himself. You can’t push him there. In fact pushing him will cause more damage. Then there’s the distinct possibility he’s straight – and you’re just wishing the gay into existence.

So what are you after? A fuck? A few furtive encounters he’ll pretend never happened? A closet affair?

He’s not going to become your boyfriend; he’s not going to come out for you. At best you get to hide in the shadows with him, and deal with his closet baggage while he hides you from the world, and then it ends badly.

At worst you’re completely wrong and he goes into ‘phobic freak out – and no, you can’t predict which guys are going to act that way.

Go find someone who is ready for what you want to offer.
 
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