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Keith Oberman Verbally Attacks Bush

Frankly I saw Keith O

and just read Schieffer

and it's apples and oranges - their messages that is

then there is the 2 men's histories

Keith O is pure Bush bashing

Schieffer is all class - who is liberal leaning but speaks fairly and w/o emotion, venom and partisanship

but that's me

I agree that Schieffer delivers his message with more class, but in terms of context, how is the message the Olbermann delivers apples compared to the oranges message that Schieffer delivers.

In your opinion?

For me, Schieffer is talking about the real sacrifice, and Olbermann...who to my knowledge...is just NOW acknowledging...how are the two messages any different?

Well besides the fact that Schieffer said about the same thing a couple of weeks ago, that Olbermann pontificated about in more paragraphs?

:D
 
who saw the olberman spot?

that has talked about its merit?

just wondering if the impact of reading it versus watching it is different.
 
I agree that Schieffer delivers his message with more class, but in terms of context, how is the message the Olbermann delivers apples compared to the oranges message that Schieffer delivers.

In your opinion?

For me, Schieffer is talking about the real sacrifice, and Olbermann...who to my knowledge...is just NOW acknowledging...how are the two messages any different?

Well besides the fact that Schieffer said about the same thing a couple of weeks ago, that Olbermann pontificated about in more paragraphs?

:D

not sure what you're doing with this centex - did u watch Keith?

as usual with Keith, it's about .............

Keith

I was just in London and saw a great play - History Boys - terrific play - great acting - great emoting

Keith emotes

Keith acts

He is the lead in the play - he should be in a 1 man Broadway show entitled "I hate Bush"

He talks directly to Bush in his "speeches"

He says

Bush has sacrificed 3000+ lives

The Pres has delayed, dawdled and deferred

Even the president cannot truly feel that very many people still believe him to be competent in this area, let alone “the decider.”

I'm not even gonna go on

apples and oranges I say (picture me with a mallet pounding the desk) - LOL

Olbermann has zero class - is a partisan hack - he's glib - he's found a nice niche

Schieffer is a pro

funny how I can watch Olbermann but Andreus can't watch O'Reilly - and he calls himself a liberal

hmmmmmm
 
You have to remember that Oberman, no matter how biased his opinion is on both this rant, and his 5th anniversary of 9/11 rant has been 100% correct.

EVERYONE has told President Bush that more troops is not the anwser, and yet he stay his own course. For every life lost from this point on, their blood is on the hands of the President. I seriously recomend impeachment on grounds of Incompetince. I don't care if Dick Cheney assumes the role of President, but I beleive that he will follow the advice of the military. It's far past the point where its just poking fun at the president's stupidity.

Why will no one stand up and do anyting about this president? Will he not be satisified untill every American and Iraqi solider are dead? I mean christ, what must he do before the world stands up to him and says "NO MORE".
 
I'd agree -- it's you.

Could you kindly support your claim that Schieffer, a golfing buddy of Bush, is a so-called "liberal leaning" man? Thanks for your help, because to date, every time you and anyone else on the extreme right has made the claim about the media being liberal they have FAILED to submit proof, or even support, for their claims. Maybe they should, you know, get the hint: the media ain't liberal.


Get real about your media argument!!!!!!!!
 
scheiffer is known to be one of the most esteemed and celebrated members of the press.

his ethics are legendary

alfie is right
 
scheiffer is known to be one of the most esteemed and celebrated members of the press.

his ethics are legendary

alfie is right

you made 3 points above

the first 2 support my unwillingness to compare charles to keith

thank u

the 3rd point .........

2 out of 3 ain't bad
 
What are Keith Oberman's veiwer numbers???? Anybody actually watch?
 
I'm glad Keith Olbermann is speaking out against the administration because a voice like his is seldom heard in mass media. Whereas, you have a plethora of Fox News "talking heads" who are saying the opposite. However, Keith seems to share O'Reilly's natural aire of arrogance; a man who loves the sound of his own voice (and apparently very lousy in bed says one woman who slept with him). I really cringe every time he says, "Goodnight and good-luck" as if he is trying to become the next great Edward Murrow who challenged McCarthy. :rolleyes:
 
You have the easier task of listing what you would consider conservative media: That list is rather short.

I will help you get started:
Wall Street Journal
Fox

I have the longer list that will take time: But we can start with :
CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC
New York Times
LA Times
SF Chroncile

I will be back to you with more. It will probably need to be a different thread as we are getting off topic.
 
don't forget every talk radio outlet in the country is crazy right wing, spouting nothing but republican propaganda. the fact that you think abc, cbs, cnn, etc. are biased one way or the other shows how far right you are. just because they don't spout lies and nonsense directed at democrats like that drug-addled freak limbaugh doesn't make them liberal...it makes them objective. right-wing radio and fox news are nothing but opinion...
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that if we had more people in the media like Bob Scheiffer, and Keith Olbermann voicing their views in the media, as opposed to telling everyone what the news is, and what to think, maybe, just maybe this country wouldn't be in the mess that it's in.

The reality of a "liberal media" is a myth, perpetrated by the right in an attempt to squash dissent.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong! :grrr:
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that if we had more people in the media like Bob Scheiffer, and Keith Olbermann voicing their views in the media, as opposed to telling everyone what the news is, and what to think, maybe, just maybe this country wouldn't be in the mess that it's in.

The reality of a "liberal media" is a myth, perpetrated by the right in an attempt to squash dissent.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong! :grrr:

I would be one to support going back to the days when journalists like Walter Cronkite did not interpret the news for us. The problem today is that too many TV reporters interject opinions all the time. The same thing with the newpapers where news and commentary (opinions of the reporter) are constantly intermixed in the articles. I think most people realize that guys like O'Reilly, Matthews, and Oberman are opinion commentators and not news shows. the bigger issue I believe is with the major newpapers and the old news channels like CBS, NBC, ABC, and CNN. But like I said earlier in this thread we are getting off topic on this Oberman thread. Media bias will be the subject of a separate thread.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that if we had more people in the media like Bob Scheiffer, and Keith Olbermann voicing their views in the media, as opposed to telling everyone what the news is, and what to think, maybe, just maybe this country wouldn't be in the mess that it's in.

The reality of a "liberal media" is a myth, perpetrated by the right in an attempt to squash dissent.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong! :grrr:

comparing Bob and Keith is faulty

The first does the news and sprinkles in opinions - and we know when he is doing both

The second is a virtual priest of extreme liberalism who does daily riffs that lean one way exclusively - he doesn't do news

as for just having priests doing their bits instead of news? be real
you think we need more extreme folks telling us the way they see it?
thanks but no - I prefer to make my own opinions and frankly I like news and info and interpreting myself

The liberal media is a constant - rr laid out the primary examples - unfortunately people hear what they want to hear

I love that Fox News gets ripped - they are in the minority - and they get ripped - that's a rip

Twilight Zone material
 
tell em "oh my god they killed kenny! you bastards!". i love chance but he doesn't ever respond to a rebuttal of one of his missives against keith or other liberals...he just ignores them cause he realizes that half the stuff he says is to provoke us libs. i think chance is just reacting to living in a super blue state the only way he knows how and doesn't believe half the stuff he says.
 
Originally Posted by chance1
I was just in London and saw a great play - History Boys - terrific play - great acting - great emoting

What does this have to do with apples and oranges?
Or Oberman for that matter.

:p
 
Keith went off on Bush again tonight, actually his administration in general. He does this almost every night. I LOVE it!!!! It's about time we have someone with enough balls to say what many of us feel, but don't have a national outlet to vent our rage. I saw him being interviewed on Charlie Rose, and he is not arrogant or a motor mouth, but extremely bright and well spoken. His show on 9/11 made me cry when he made his final comment overlooking the massive hole that was the world trade center towers. If you go to "youtube.com" look up Keith Olbermann SLAMS bush on 9/11. THAT is one of the best newspieces i've ever seen, he really summed up what i and countless others feel. I saw it live on tv when he did it, and i sat there in shock that he was getting away with it! As angry as he was, sitting there with the massive hole that was the twin towers behind him, you could see that he had tears in his eyes. That might not show on a tiny frame like youtube, but you can tell he was'nt just showing off for ratings. I would'nt be surprised if Cheney is hiring a hit man at this very moment! Some people might hate Keith, but i hope he never goes away. People like him are what living in REAL Democracy is all about: the right to say what you want. Bush and his cronies have commited far more impeachable offenses than Nixon ever did, and yet they remain in power. How many soldiers died over Watergate? How will we get through the remainder of Bush's rule? At least with people like Olbermann around, i get the feeling there might be some hope left for this country. Maybe.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that if we had more people in the media like Bob Scheiffer, and Keith Olbermann voicing their views in the media, as opposed to telling everyone what the news is, and what to think, maybe, just maybe this country wouldn't be in the mess that it's in.

The reality of a "liberal media" is a myth, perpetrated by the right in an attempt to squash dissent.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong! :grrr:

Liberal Media Evidence
A new poll by the Pew Center proves that the media is as liberal as ever. When will "diversity" mean more conservatives?
by Fred Barnes
05/28/2004 12:00:00 AM

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THE ARGUMENT over whether the national press is dominated by liberals is over. Since 1962, there have been 11 surveys of the media that sought the political views of hundreds of journalists. In 1971, they were 53 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative. In a 1976 survey of the Washington press corps, it was 59 percent liberal, 18 percent conservative. A 1985 poll of 3,200 reporters found them to be self-identified as 55 percent liberal, 17 percent conservative. In 1996, another survey of Washington journalists pegged the breakdown as 61 percent liberal, 9 percent conservative. Now, the new study by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found the national media to be 34 percent liberal and 7 percent conservative.

Over 40-plus years, the only thing that's changed in the media's politics is that many national journalists have now cleverly decided to call themselves moderates. But their actual views haven't changed, the Pew survey showed. Their political beliefs are close to those of self-identified liberals and nowhere near those of conservatives. And the proportion of liberals to conservatives in the press, either 3-to-1 or 4-to-1, has stayed the same. That liberals are dominant is now beyond dispute.

Liberal Media Evidence

I dunno but it seems their political bent is truly not in question. Indeed how can you argue they report fairly when not a soul on here can play even keeled about anything they say or quote.

Members use truth to promote their ideas as bloggers on this forum and it would be pure ignorance to assume because they are saying what you like to here is evidence of impartiality.

Even the moderation blatantly censors "hate" speech from non liberal members which is justified as hate speech but fails to remove incendiary remarks from the liberal side, In fact they cheer those postings on with agreeing remarks.

NO SINGLE person fails to include their owns personnel bias in what they do, it is not possible.

Now that said do editors in response to the administration bias what it reports and how so as to contiue corporate profit? Absolutely. Referrence Phil Donahue.

ANyways you ask for a challenge, glove down, prove me wrong.
 
Hmm you post from a liberal watchdog, I from a conservative. Both use statistics to form their basis. Wonder why they came up with different answers?

Couldn't be their bias could it?
 
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