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Koch Bros to Spend $887 Million on 2016 Presidential Election

WHAT liberal media? Where? Even MSNBC has Morning Joe...

Consider RADIO. In more than 90% (my estimate) of the area covered by U. S. territory, and in many of the cities with six-figure populations, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to find, anywhere on the radio dial, any COMMERCIAL RADIO BROADCASTING STATION which will ever have a shred of a liberal voice. NPR is the only hope, and they're more or less neutered. (I call "All Things Considered", instead, "Corporate Things Considered.")

This void is filled in by satellite radio, but even on satellite there's a lot more right-wing talk.

If the media IS lamestream, then the people working for it must be PRESStitutes.

When the elites get to the button for the Supreme Court, and click on "ADD TO CART," we're screwed totally. Even more so if they also click that button on The White House. They simply walked by the Senate (unimpeded by so many Democrats who COULD NOT BE BOTHERED TO GET OFF THEIR ASSES and vote) on November 4 and clicked the "ADD TO CART" button for that. As it is, we're almost screwed anyway, because the alleged "swing vote" Kennedy isn't really one.
This void is filled in by satellite radio, but even on satellite there's a lot more right-wing talk.

All is not lost. Progressive radio is out here. There is www.chicagoprogressiveradio.com The station is privately owned, so it does not operate at the behest of the "corporate media." The local call letters are WCPT 820 (Chicago Progressive Talk). Its sponsor list has been growing steadily. The lineup:
  • Bill Press
  • Stephanie Miller
  • Tom Hartman
  • Jeff Santos
  • Norman Goldman
  • Tavis Smiley
  • Michael Papantonio
  • Robert Kennedy Jr.
  • Sam Seder
plus many other "relevant" programs. Check it out. Some of the broadcasts are picked up locally (major cities). Check your local listings. :D
 
^ Absolutely true, but Chicago does happen to occupy part of that 10% land mass (and I'm very familiar with WCPT). But, I don't even think that San Francisco has a "progressive" land-based radio station, or at least they didn't a year ago at this time. Portland is also in the same situation.

Though Thom Hartmann is quite "dry" in his presentation, I think he does the most-informative show among those I know. You mentioned two or three names I don't know much about.

It's absurd that even places like that cannot have even one commercial radio station that will actually talk about income inequality, homelessness, any benefits of Obamacare whatsoever, etc. - and not fake concepts like "job creators" or BENGHAZI!!!!!

Yes, some Pugs are trying to bring BENGHAZI!!!!!! back...again. Even after operatives from THEIR party investigated and said "Move on, move on, nothing to see here."

If you drive Interstate 90, it may not be possible to find a progressive radio station west of Madison, because I'm not even sure that SEATTLE has such a station either (which happens to also be Commercial). I thought their 1090 station (KPTK) went sports or something??
 
Once I found 22 simultaneous copies of Rush Limbaugh available here on a car radio (with a very weak WCPT, 200 miles away, being the only oasis in this vast desert of right-wing hate). That was a few years ago. I checked a few months ago and there were still 19 or was it 20?

WLS, which used to be one of the best rock and roll/"rock" stations in the world until almost into the 1980's - for close to 20 years - is now one of the very worst of the worst. Their John "Records" Landecker, who ruled the evenings in the mid and late 1970s, may have been the best radio DJ in the world at the time.

The ONLY "local" station here on AM carries Slush Blimpballs and all those others.

There is so much line noise and device noise nowadays, that WCPT certainly doesn't "count" here, therefore progressive talk should be considered to be absolutely not available on AM here at all (OR FM!!), except for some NPR talk outlets. As I said, a lot of the NPR stuff has been co-opted or defanged.
 
What we need then is for the unions and environmentalists to spend tons of money to influence things to their liking! Oh, they already do???

Here's another prime example of one of the GOP favored boogie men to scare up hatred in their dim~wit base. The terrible unions. Which are weak and declining. The fact that total union labor in the USA is just about 11% of the workforce compared to its peak in 1954 when it was about 35%. Even more telling is the drop off in the private sector, plummeting from about 17% in 1983 to 6.7% just 3 decades later. Public sector unions never had the clout or pull of the private but they are really that's all left. The teachers unions are other favored targets by the goons in the GOP. Some how fire, police, water/sanitary unions, just don't have the resources to play against the KOchs of the world.

Someday the unions will be eliminated and the echo chamber will still be talking how destructive they are and how much corrupt money they have saddled up against the poor little old white billionaire club. The propaganda bullshit works, its still working now even though the strong union states are falling in line with the lowly right to work states. Unions don't have the power to even keep that ground. The like of the Kochs know this, repeat repeat, keep pumping into our rock head base heads. they believe it.

Welcome to the wonders of Wal mart and other low end McJobs with no advancement or future just 6 days a wk working for the company store. The trickle down will saturate to those that think the GOP represents them in their 125,00 a yr job in the cookie cutter suburban house, but they will join the falling population ranks with nothing as they feel the real trickle downs real effect.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-membership-trails-far-behind-public-support/
 
The reason the unions are weak and declining is that they were so successful that they destroyed many employers, and for the remainder competition, especially foreign competition, limits how hard they can extort the employer and the public.
 
I saw this today on my Facebook feed, courtesy of our former JUBber, razorzedge88, and I thought it was a good fit for this thread....

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So who are these four? And which of them will be most successful?

EDIT: Most successful for Republican voters that is.

And just in case the image expires I'll type the four names out....

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI)

Bear in mind I've no idea who they are, so fill me in.
 
^^ Just the most recent (post-Sarah Palin) heavily promoted fascists.
 
If money controls election, obviously the deems spent more to get Obama elected. Where is that outrage?
 
Canada has election campaigning limits. It levels the playing field for all the candidates. Virtually all the 7 major political parties in Canada are represented in the House of Commons.

In fact, an MP (Member of Parliament) from Peterborough was recently charge and convicted of overspending the allotted amount by spending $21,000 of his own money to hire a company to phone constituents to vote for him. His sentencing was to come up in February, but he has a new lawyer who is appealing the conviction. I expect he'll still loose. There is no doubt that he paid the company to do the work for him. That put him over his spending limit.

It works for Canada.
 
The democrat advantage of controlling the media is difficult to overcome.
 
The democrat advantage of controlling the media is difficult to overcome.

Fox News and right wing radio like to brag about how high their ratings are.
You can't do that and then claim the media is controlled by Democrats.
 
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI)

So who are these four? And which of them will be most successful?

EDIT: Most successful for Republican voters that is.

Bear in mind I've no idea who they are, so fill me in.

As you have already noted, three of them are Republican US senators and one is the Republican governor of Wisconsin. All four were present at the Koch bros. summit to kiss the rings of the Koch bros. and obtain their blessing.

Ted Cruz is a "Tea Party" Republican with views that are too extreme to enable his nomination as a Republican Party presidential candidate. He does not believe pregnant women should have the opportunity to abort an unwanted fetus, opposes gay marriage and gay rights, opposes affordable health insurance for Americans, opposes mandating accomodations for the disabled, opposes net neutrality, and opposes checking the backgrounds of people who want to buy guns. He believes the National Security Agency needs to be more intrusive if it is to be effective in monitoring "terrorism." He believes American economic policy should focus on making rich people richer. He believes America should be providing active military support to Israel on a continuing basis, but he is not certain whom we should attack there.

Rand Paul is a "libertarian" Republican who is the only one of the four with any possibility of obtaining the party nomination for president (but he won't be the nominee). He is a doctor who nevertheless opposes abortion under every circumstance. He opposes gay marriage and gay rights, opposes affordable health insurance, and opposes net neutrality. He opposes any attempt to regulate guns (such as limiting the size of magazines and background checks). Unlike Cruz, he is reluctant to commit American military forces to interventions around the world. He opposes Guantanamo-style indefinite imprisonment and supports privacy rights (reining in the NSA). He says he supports immigration reform, but has opposed every attempt to put it into law. He advocates a Herbert Hoover-style "hands off" approach of the government to intervening in the economy. He opposed saving the the US banking and automobile industries by government intervention during the Great Recession (apparently, he feels depressions/recessions are cyclical norms which should be allowed to resolve "naturally"). He even opposes the Federal Reserve monetary system and attempts by the government to control interest rates and inflation.

Marco Rubio is a young (43 y.o.) Cuban-American who was once imagined by some Republicans to be the solution to that party's disdain by recent immigrant groups. He opposes abortion and gay rights. He opposed the "Violence Against Women Act." He favors increased NSA surveillance of Americans to combat "terrorism." He favors massive, massive tax cuts for rich people. He is an adamant denier of climate change - both that it exists and that humans are causing it. Of the four Republicans mentioned here, his economic policy comes closest to what the Kochs want. However, he is too unsophisticated a politician to go much further than he already has in national politics, and the Kochs (I suspect) know that.

Scott Walker (Republican governor of Wisconsin) is too polarizing a figure to go very far in national politics. He is famous for destroying the public employees' unions in Wisconsin and surviving a recall vote initiated as a response to that. He also survived a challenging re-election campaign. Because of this reslience, he has become a darling of the Republican Party. But, aside from union-busting, he has no real accomplishments to his name. Quite a lot of people cannot stand him, and this dislike is passionate. He opposes abortion in every circumstance, opposes gay rights (which he does not like to talk about), and wants to make rich people richer. His views about international politics are not well articulated. He does not like to talk about international issues, because he makes a fool of himself (by virtue of his ignorance) every time he does.

None of these four are likely to obtain the Republican nomination. Rubio's economic views are the most preferred by the Kochs, but I don't think they will support him because they know he would be hopeless in a national election. Paul would be the strongest candidate against a Democrat in a presidential election, but his laissez-faire economic views are not favored by the Kochs.
 
^ T-Rexx, thankyou very much for taking the time to post this detailed reply! :kiss:

I read through the whole of what you typed. Apart from the libertarian-style approach to economics, Guantanamo and net privacy, (oh and immigration) I disagree with everything else they stand for.
 
I read through the whole of what you typed. Apart from the libertarian-style approach to economics, Guantanamo and net privacy, (oh and immigration) I disagree with everything else they stand for.

Thank you.

An interesting thing is that if you read through their stated positions, there is very little that Republicans stand for. Mostly they oppose whatever other people want to do. And those things that they do want to implement (like tax cuts for the wealthy, the elimination of health insurance, and the elimination of programs to help the disadvantaged) would have been the norm in the nineteenth century.

They are a party which exists to resist the progress of civilization. For this reason, their remarkable political success in the USA has always astounded me.

[BTW, Republican opposition to net neutrality is not a good thing. It means they favor letting companies pay to restrict your access to their competition's sites.]
 
Ted Cruz is a "Tea Party" Republican with views that are too extreme to enable his nomination as a Republican Party presidential candidate. . . .

Cruze, I am loath to acknowledge, was born in Alberta, the Mississippi of Canada, but still Canada, so he’s a non-contender before the starter pistol is even loaded.

Unless, of course, the Koch brothers change the U.S. Constitution first. Which, having more money than God, they probably could.
 
^^ Too late to change Cruze to Cruz. I've been spending too much time on General Motors' site.
 
But not so; Cruz is the son of an American mother. He is a "natural-born" citizen of the US and thus (along with his middle-agedness and near lifelong residency here) makes him eligible. It doesn't matter that his father was Cuban and he was born in Canada. Whether or not Republicans would vote for a "Son of the White North" is another matter.
 
But not so; Cruz is the son of an American mother. He is a "natural-born" citizen of the US and thus (along with his middle-agedness and near lifelong residency here) makes him eligible. It doesn't matter that his father was Cuban and he was born in Canada. Whether or not Republicans would vote for a "Son of the White North" is another matter.
"Natural born" is laughably vague and elastic.
 
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