Lady Gaga [Mega-Merged] Discussion Thread

[CudDULL]

Re: Lady GaGa - Monster Ball Tour

New Years Eve

you're going to the one in miami?

 

[Sequencellariot]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

She can't sing? You don't have to like her, but that's definitely not true.

Hmm... I didn't know. I've listened the singles that she's put out, and she's displayed crummy vocal abilities in all of them, so I didn't know she could sing like this. All right, I take it back. She's an okay singer. Not good and definitely not fantastic like Beyonce or anything, but she's okay.

 

[Blueboy369]

Re: Alejandro- Lady Gaga

"Just smoke my cigarette and hush!" I can't get enough of this song!

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Hmm... I didn't know. I've listened the singles that she's put out, and she's displayed crummy vocal abilities in all of them, so I didn't know she could sing like this. All right, I take it back. She's an okay singer. Not good and definitely not fantastic like Beyonce or anything, but she's okay.

Beyonce is overrated, but that's another topic. I love her tone and she does have a good tone, even better than Beyonce, even if she does not have a strong voice.

 

[Digicel]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Nobody goes to see weave because of its vocals

They go for the spectacle .


A true vocalist does not have to dance and a fool of itself on stage.

Celine Dion fills arenas all over the world on her vocals alone and she doesnt need any fancy production to distract from her vocals because her voice is the star.

 

[miaedu]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Beyonce is overrated, but that's another topic. I love her tone and she does have a good tone, even better than Beyonce, even if she does not have a strong voice.

I may not be a big fan of Beyonce, but if there were a Grammy category for most overrated, this chick would certainly own the prize.

 

[Sequencellariot]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Beyonce is overrated, but that's another topic. I love her tone and she does have a good tone, even better than Beyonce, even if she does not have a strong voice.

Huh? There is nothing about Lady Gaga's vocal abilities that top Beyonce's. Lady Gaga is an okay singer.

Nobody goes to see weave because of its vocals

They go for the spectacle .


A true vocalist does not have to dance and a fool of itself on stage.

Celine Dion fills arenas all over the world on her vocals alone and she doesnt need any fancy production to distract from her vocals because her voice is the star.

Beyonce doesn't rely on the spectacle... She actually has a voice.



She sings AND she entertains. She needn't rely on big production because she has genuine talent.

 

[whydatkine]

Re: Lady GaGa - Monster Ball Tour

Yep, I love how she falls and makes it look like she did it intentionally. I don't see her whining about it on tabloids, she's a trooper. So many reasons why I love her.

 

[mydrew1]

Re: Lady GaGa - Monster Ball Tour

I prefer Gaga sitting playing the piano like on SNL

I prefer honesty; calling yourself a made up name to make money is disgraceful

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Huh? There is nothing about Lady Gaga's vocal abilities that top Beyonce's. Lady Gaga is an okay singer.

Beyonce doesn't rely on the spectacle... She actually has a voice.

She sings AND she entertains. She needn't rely on big production because she has genuine talent.

A) The overwhelmingly majority of Beyonce's tracks have heavy production.

B) Lady Gaga does have a better tone than Beyonce, personal preferences aside. Beyonce has a thin voice; in that respect, Lady Gaga does top Beyonce as she naturally has a better tone, genetically.

C) Lady Gaga also sings and entertains, in a different way. Whether you like what she does or not, Lady Gaga can sing, dance, and entertain. In addition, Lady Gaga is also a musician, which is a talent Beyonce lacks.

 

[Reika]

Re: Alejandro- Lady Gaga

She wrote the album while watching muted fashion shows on TV while touring in Europe. She's tried to incorporate Euro music into her work, along with Gothic and light...LIGHT industrial...at least, the Wikipedia says so.

The composition takes its inspiration from Gothic music and fashion shows. Contemporary critics gave a mixed to positive review of the album, majority of them complimenting the songs "Bad Romance" and "Dance in the Dark".

"I spent a lot of nights in Eastern Europe, and this album is a pop experimentation with industrial/Goth beats, 90's dance melodies, an obsession with the lyrical genius of 80's melancholic pop, and the runway. I wrote while watching muted fashion shows and I am compelled to say my music was scored for them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fame_Monster

My top 5? hard to say...

5. Alejandro
4. Monster
3. Bad Romance
2. Telephone
1. Dance in The Dark

 

[lawrence358]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Opinions lmao

 

[Sequencellariot]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

A) The overwhelmingly majority of Beyonce's tracks have heavy production.

B) Lady Gaga does have a better tone than Beyonce, personal preferences aside. Beyonce has a thin voice; in that respect, Lady Gaga does top Beyonce as she naturally has a better tone, genetically.

C) Lady Gaga also sings and entertains, in a different way. Whether you like what she does or not, Lady Gaga can sing, dance, and entertain. In addition, Lady Gaga is also a musician, which is a talent Beyonce lacks.

1. Okay, and what? So do Gaga's. The difference is Beyonce still blows the mic out on all of them because she actually has a voice.

2. Lady Gaga doesn't have a better anything than Beyonce vocally. Her voice isn't thin at all. Gaga is an so-so singer at best; Beyonce is a fucking fantastic singer. If you like Gaga's tone better even though she not a very good singer, okay, but that's like me saying Beyonce is much prettier than Gaga, personal preferences aside. So what? It's a preference that's not very important when it comes down to it.

3. Haha. Lady Gaga hardly sings, and never good. She entertains by wearing outrageous costumes and acting like a goofball, which doesn't take much talent. She is the production of her management. LMAO OMG she cannot dance don't EVEN make me laugh! And RedOne is the musician, not Gaga. But hey, this is Gaga's gig, and I'm not knocking her for it, but let's just call it what it is. It's entertaining to watch, but it's not much talent.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

1. Okay, and what? So do Gaga's. The difference is Beyonce still blows the mic out on all of them because she actually has a voice.

Beyonce has her looks and her entertainer factor working for her as well. If a female, like Adel, had the same kind of voice, she would not be as successful. In other words, Beyonce is not and would not have gotten over solely because of her voice. It has a shrill quality to it.

2. Lady Gaga doesn't have a better anything than Beyonce vocally. Her voice isn't thin at all.

Do you know what a thin voice is? Because the following statement shows that you don't...

Gaga is an so-so singer at best; Beyonce is a fucking fantastic singer.

I believe I said earlier that Beyonce has more power than Lady Gaga. However, there are still plenty of girls who can sing like Beyonce as well.

If you like Gaga's tone better even though she not a very good singer, okay, but that's like me saying Beyonce is much prettier than Gaga, personal preferences aside.

It's not the same. Even if I did not like Lady Gaga's voice, she still has thicker voice than Beyonce.

3. Haha. Lady Gaga hardly sings, and never good.

False. Lady Gaga has sung live several times and she generally does a great job.

She entertains by wearing outrageous costumes and acting like a goofball, which doesn't take much talent.

What's your point? Lady Gaga chooses to entertain in a particular manner, but it does not make her any less of an artist.

She is the production of her management.

Another false statement. Stefani performed under Lady Gaga long before she became famous.

LMAO OMG she cannot dance don't EVEN make me laugh!

Lady Gaga does dance; she's also sung and danced at the same time.

And RedOne is the musician, not Gaga.

Playing the piano requires a level of musicianship.

But hey, this is Gaga's gig, and I'm not knocking her for it, but let's just call it what it is. It's entertaining to watch, but it's not much talent.

Lady Gaga sings, dances, writes songs, and plays an instrument. I am counting four different talents. In addition, she must have something special about her, if Beyonce is working with her so early in her career.

 

[miaedu]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

she's retarded!!

Lady CaCa or Digicel?

 

[PATMAN]

Re: Lady GaGa - Monster Ball Tour

^ Thank god I didn't have to say that... lol

 

[Sequencellariot]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Beyonce has her looks and her entertainer factor working for her as well. If a female, like Adel, had the same kind of voice, she would not be as successful. In other words, Beyonce is not and would not have gotten over solely because of her voice. It has a shrill quality to it.

Okay and? Looks matter, yes. Every popular singer must be attractive, but the point was about voice. Beyonce's singing voice is off the chain. Not shrill, not too thin, amazing.

Do you know what a thin voice is? Because the following statement shows that you don't...

No it doesn't; it shows that I disagree with you. Do you know what an opinion is? Because this statement shows that you don't. As you said and believe, Gaga may have a thicker voice, but that doesn't make Beyonce's voice thin. It's not. It just means Gaga's is thicker.

I believe I said earlier that Beyonce has more power than Lady Gaga. However, there are still plenty of girls who can sing like Beyonce as well.

Maybe, but there aren't many popular singers nowadays who can really sing; and not sing like Beyonce, but just sing period. Other than say Christina Aguilera.

It's not the same. Even if I did not like Lady Gaga's voice, she still has thicker voice than Beyonce.

Okay.

False. Lady Gaga has sung live several times and she generally does a great job.

What constitutes singing to you? In all of her performances she either doesn't really sing (ie Just Dance) or doesn't sing at all, but talk (ie Poker Face). Doing either one of those things live doesn't take much talent, and the times she actually will try to sing (like she did in the video Digicel posted) are far and few between the others. All of that to say this: Several times in your book may not be several times in mine.

What's your point? Lady Gaga chooses to entertain in a particular manner, but it does not make her any less of an artist.

Well not quite... Her management has created this image for her that she showcases. Her management are the painters, and Gaga is the canvas. Her management are the clothes designers, and Gaga is the model. Understand? In other words, her management are really are the artists. Easy enough to understand. Again, not knocking Gaga, but let's be real here.

Another false statement. Stefani performed under Lady Gaga long before she became famous.

That was not the point. Her whole image was created and is maintained by her management. They had an idea and believed that Gaga could be the embodiment of it. If they knew tomorrow that it would be a huge success to completely change her image and portray her as [insert any idea here; say an opera singer for example. of course that wouldn't work but the point is a sudden change in image], then we would see a different Gaga, because she is the embodiment of what her management believes will sell. And it's working like a charm.

Lady Gaga does dance; she's also sung and danced at the same time.

Lol. Okay then, under your standards, she can dance. She can move her arms and legs to the rhythm of music. She's a very basic dancer. Under my standards, she cannot dance. She cannot perform higher end intermediately intricate dance maneuvers, à la Single Ladies.

Playing the piano requires a level of musicianship.

I'm not at all convinced she plays the piano. It looks like a gimmick to me, but if she does, she seems to be a casual pianist.

Lady Gaga sings, dances, writes songs, and plays an instrument. I am counting four different talents. In addition, she must have something special about her, if Beyonce is working with her so early in her career.

I guess we just have different standards regarding these things. But regardless of it all, Gaga is still very popular right now, and that is why Beyonce collaborated with her. Not because there's something special about her, but because she's hella popular. It could be said that there's something special about Colbie Caillat too, but she ain't on no Beyonce video, is she? Lol.

 

[xXSeanXx]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Why does she deserve Best New Artist? What talent does she have? She can't sing, and all she does is wear goofy ass costumes and act/talk weird.

LOL thats what every straight man thinks gays do, funny that. Well she can sing, its up to everyone to decide if they like it or not. As for what she wears, alot of her new stuff is desigers creations. I would rather her be herself than be another plastic pop singer from the US. I mean none of them can really sing and wear some crazy stuff.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

Okay and? Looks matter, yes. Every popular singer must be attractive, but the point was about voice. Beyonce's singing voice is off the chain. Not shrill, not too thin, amazing.

The point is that Beyonce is not selling albums solely on her voice and her voice alone.

No it doesn't; it shows that I disagree with you. Do you know what an opinion is? Because this statement shows that you don't. As you said and believe, Gaga may have a thicker voice, but that doesn't make Beyonce's voice thin. It's not. It just means Gaga's is thicker.

That's not opinion, her voice is shrill. Her voice does not carry as much weight as a Maxwell, Luther, Jazmine Sullivan and even Lady Gaga. That's a physiological fact. Obviously, you do not have any understanding of what I am saying because this is not opinion-based.

Maybe, but there aren't many popular singers nowadays who can really sing; and not sing like Beyonce, but just sing period. Other than say Christina Aguilera.

And Leona Lewis and Jennifer Hudson. Technically, they can outsing Beyonce, but that's another discussion. Anyway, that's an issue of the buying public, so unless the public wants to see more gifted singers, then there are always going to be mediocre singers or simply singers who cannot sing at all.

What constitutes singing to you? In all of her performances she either doesn't really sing (ie Just Dance) or doesn't sing at all, but talk (ie Poker Face). Doing either one of those things live doesn't take much talent, and the times she actually will try to sing (like she did in the video Digicel posted) are far and few between the others. All of that to say this: Several times in your book may not be several times in mine.

Well, you have not seen enough of her performances. There are several videos of her singing, live. If she dances, she may not sing a few small parts, but she still sings the majority of her songs, but I guess you do not care to look at those videos. Even with your example, Poker Face, there have been several renditions where she has simply sat by a piano, played the arrangement and vocalized simultaneously.

Well not quite... Her management has created this image for her that she showcases. Her management are the painters, and Gaga is the canvas. Her management are the clothes designers, and Gaga is the model. Understand? In other words, her management are really are the artists. Easy enough to understand. Again, not knocking Gaga, but let's be real here.

Again, that's not true. She's been using the Lady Gaga gimmick long before she was famous.

That was not the point. Her whole image was created and is maintained by her management. They had an idea and believed that Gaga could be the embodiment of it. If they knew tomorrow that it would be a huge success to completely change her image and portray her as [insert any idea here; say an opera singer for example. of course that wouldn't work but the point is a sudden change in image], then we would see a different Gaga, because she is the embodiment of what her management believes will sell. And it's working like a charm.

I am not going to say that the management team did not have anything to do with her image, at all. However, she is not a corporate puppet or even a stage child whose father pushed and pushed her into the spotlight and tells her what to sing, how to sing, and how to pop booty.

Lol. Okay then, under your standards, she can dance. She can move her arms and legs to the rhythm of music. She's a very basic dancer. Under my standards, she cannot dance. She cannot perform higher end intermediately intricate dance maneuvers, à la Single Ladies.

It's not a matter of standards. She can dance and she can sing. Therein lies the problem. Everyone does not have to have the same level of abilities. If that were the case, then by my standards Beyonce cannot dance and sing as she is not nearly as powerful as top tier singers and her dancing is mediocre at best.

There's a reason so many people can do Single Ladies on youtube. Her dancing is not intricate whatsoever; a gyration into half-split is not intricate. Bending over while singing "Watch and Check Up on it not intricate." Doing an Crotch Flash, I'm sorry an Open Leg shot, while singing "I've Got A Big Ego" is not difficult or even intermediate.

You want to take it back? Putting a bunch of popular dances that were done in the clubs 80s and 90s and calling it intermediate is laughable. "Drop Down Low and Sweep the Flo' Wit' It."

I'm not at all convinced she plays the piano. It looks like a gimmick to me, but if she does, she seems to be a casual pianist.

Long before the Lady Gaga gimmick, she was playing the piano. She studied at a top school, Julliard, and she's been playing since a young age anyway. Sorry, it's not a gimmick. Let the hate go.

I guess we just have different standards regarding these things. But regardless of it all, Gaga is still very popular right now, and that is why Beyonce collaborated with her. Not because there's something special about her, but because she's hella popular. It could be said that there's something special about Colbie Caillat too, but she ain't on no Beyonce video, is she? Lol.

Obviously, it's about business as well. However, Beyonce is not hopping on every new artist who's coming out either. She's not collaborating with LMFAO or Jay Sean, yet.

 

[PATMAN]

Re: Lady Gaga - Best New Artist???

She's been using the Lady Gaga gimmick long before she was famous.

Long before the Lady Gaga gimmick, she was playing the piano. She studied at a top school, Julliard, and she's been playing since a young age anyway. Sorry, it's not a gimmick. Let the hate go.
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Here's proof to the first point that she called herself Lady Gaga long before she was famous:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fpa15WPmKA[/ame]




And here's some more proof of her talent... this is from even before she called herself Lady Gaga

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNq1jSqakIQ[/ame]