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Lady Gaga [Mega-Merged] Discussion Thread

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Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

You have to feel sorry for the Queen. They expect her to turn up and watch rubbish like this every year and look like she's enjoying it. Who else has to do this at 83?
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Aleks, my dear, I know the definition of fascist and I have always hated the Sex Pistols with a passion - they are the very personification of the term "untalented famewhore". Not to mention that they make chavs look like the most refined chevaliers in the world.

Still, the Windsors have NEVER apologized for the furious support of the Nazi brand of racialist fascism during the 1930s and beyond, nor their previous support of German imperialist policies during the 1st World War. Their only significant act of contrition was to change their surname to Windsor in 1917.

That old witch may be forced to remain neutral for the sake of keeping her position, but she is far from tolerant. If you don't believe me, remember all the racially charged comments that her fool of a husband has been caught making in the media, without any shame for his own prejudices.

Also, now that we're talking about that, it would be convenient that her voluntary yet secret tax payment regime were published, so as to see whether our dear monarch, who allegedly represents all of us, is paying her dues, like everybody else.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Still, the Windsors have NEVER apologized for the furious support of the Nazi brand of racialist fascism during the 1930s and beyond.

What, are you saying George VI supported the Nazis during 1939-45?

...... nor their previous support of German imperialist policies during the 1st World War.

Similarly, was George V a supporter of the Kaiser during the 1914-18 war?

You're living in cloud cuckoo land dear boy.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Wait a second. Isn't that the dance crew that beat out Susan Boyle? Diversity I think they were called? In the background of the second picture, with Gaga bowing to the queen.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

What, are you saying George VI supported the Nazis during 1939-45?

Similarly, was George V a supporter of the Kaiser during the 1914-18 war?

You're living in cloud cuckoo land dear boy.

No, I am saying that they favoured German interests until they directly clashed with British sovereignty and its prominent role in European politics. Still, the ideologies they supported remained, very largely, unmoved through the years.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Still, the ideologies they supported remained, very largely, unmoved through the years.

German imperialism and Nazi racialism have remained largely unmoved through the years have they? Erm, no.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Unloadonme and Aleks, here are two interesting articles about the links between the Nazi regime and the British Royal family at large, although both tend to centre around that old fart Philip.

http://www.ryanpaul.ca/british-royal-family-nazi-history/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/13/benito-mussolini-recruited-mi5-italy

And no, I am not saying that German imperialism has remained unmoved through the years - mainly because it is not viable due to economic interdependence created through the EU. However, ideology and political agency are two very different things. Nazi racialism remains intact as an ideology, although its spread throughout the Western world and the rejection of democratic states has deprived it of a unitary, national identity that could consolidate it.

That, however, doesn't invalidate my claims that the British Royal family did openly support first, the Kaiser in its attempts to take down Prussia and neutralize France's prominent role in European politics and imperial expansion in Africa, and then its racialist policies with the Nazis. Actually, the main sponsors for the Nazi were English, and all of them were linked to the royal family.

The fact that the Germans were not willing to share power with anyone and thus, wrecked havoc amongst their sympathizers, doesn't mean the royals were saints. They just took the position most convenient to them at a time of conflict, against a well defined foreign enemy.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

The Ryan Paul piece is hardly what you'd call unbiased and is riddled with inaccuracies. It says Edward VIII abdicated in 1938 because of his Nazi connections. Wrong. Any schoolboy will tell you that he abdicated in 1936 because he wanted to marry a divorcee. It says that Prince Philip was Queen Victoria's grandson. Also wrong. The rest of it seems to rely on the fact that the royal family are related to quite a few Germans. Never knew that.

The Grauniad piece doesn't mention the royal family once.

Thanks for the history lesson. As I was saying, Lady Gaga is dreadful and expecting the Queen to sit through such rubbish is a disgrace.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Why is she even in this forum?

Look up:

Celebrity News & Gossip Discuss your favorite male celebrities. Who's hot, who's not, who gets you hot and bothered... you get the idea.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

She looks ridiculous O_o And not even in a good way.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Sorry, I mean "HE"
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Talk about being proper with royalty. Go Gaga!
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

I'm usually only a rock n roll guy but began liking Gaga when I saw her on SNL. I'll most likely purchase the re-release of her CD.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

I saw a really amusing comment on another site in reference to these photos. Someone pointed out Lady GaGa looks like the guards the Emperor had in Star Wars. I got a good chuckle out of that, because the get-up does look like it...minus the helmet/mask, of course. :D
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

That, however, doesn't invalidate my claims that the British Royal family did openly support first, the Kaiser in its attempts to take down Prussia and neutralize France's prominent role in European politics and imperial expansion in Africa, and then its racialist policies with the Nazis. Actually, the main sponsors for the Nazi were English, and all of them were linked to the royal family.

The fact that the Germans were not willing to share power with anyone and thus, wrecked havoc amongst their sympathizers, doesn't mean the royals were saints. They just took the position most convenient to them at a time of conflict, against a well defined foreign enemy.

First of all, the Kaiser WAS Prussian. Prussia took over Germany and became the German Empire.

Second of all, Kaiser Wilhelm II was a grandson of Queen Victoria (through his mother HRH Princess Victoria, Princess Royal). So is it really any wonder that George V would have wanted to favor his cousin?

In the end, though, all royals with German connections either had to renounce their German titles (like Prince Philip's grandfather Louis Mountbatten who married a granddaughter of Queen Victoria as well), or be excluded from succession to the throne. This was all during WWI.

By the time WWII rolled around, I'm not really sure what you're even talking about. Other than the Duke of Windsor, no one even so much as visited Germany. And the Duke was expressly advised by Parliament NOT to go. And all of this was going on in 1937, well before any international hostilities began. At that point, no one really knew what was going on in Germany. If you really want a German history lesson, let me know, but basically what FDR was for the US during the Great Depression, Hitler was a demented, sick, twisted German version. After WWI, Germany was experiencing hyperinflation the likes of which can only be rivaled by Zimbabwe's troubles in recent years. I'm not excusing the Shoa (that cannot be excused), but I can say that the German people were not as a whole responsible for how Hitler came to power (shady and un-democratic at best).

Furthermore, it's a tough argument to make that regular Germans were at the time aware of what was happening to Jews, homosexuals, Roma ("gypsies"), political prisoners, and other "unproductive members of society." So how were other countries supposed to know? The US didn't know and could have cared less. American GIs were shocked when they liberated the death camps, so I'm surprised you say that the Windsors "promoted and supported" "racialist fascist" Nazi policies. What's more, most of the camps were outside Germany proper, so as to keep them hidden from the German people. Besides, before Germany invaded the Soviet Union, a lot of Jews were deported. Actually, from my visit to Sachsenhausen (a death camp just north of Berlin), I was surprised to learn that most of the Jews housed in Sachsenhausen before 1939 actually survived and were set loose from the camp provided that they leave Germany permanently. This is not to say that the Germans didn't kill millions of innocent people, but to state that there is a lot of misinformation out there.

I'd advise all of you do some more research....
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

ROFL! How in the WORLD did Lady Gaga's absurd yet awesome costume turn into a discussion on Anglo/Prussian relations in the 19th Century? ;)
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

my two favorite artists right now are Adam Lambert and Lady Gaga.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Have you guys seen the video to "Paparazzi"? Not only is that my favorite song by her, but it's the best video I've seen in ages.

No, Bad Romance beats that video any day.
 
Re: GaGa dresses as Elizabeth I to meet Queen and suspends herself from ceiling

Adam Lambert and Lady Gaga = King & Queen of Shock Pop
 
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