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Lady Gaga [Mega-Merged] Discussion Thread

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    Votes: 11 73.3%
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    Votes: 4 26.7%

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Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

Talent alone isn't enough to get you noticed these days. Unfortunately, a lot of 'performers' these days get by with theatrics where talent doesn't exist. Gaga has talent, but she feels the need for theatrics for some reason.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

You don't remember Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson all too well, do you?

Shock for arts' sake. Maybe that's why i'm not as phased as most people.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

ANOTHER one of these threads? Already???

If you don't "get" Gaga now, you probably never will. Honestly she's weird and she knows that, the world knows that, what is there to get? As long as she's happy and continues putting out music that me and her other fans enjoy, I'm happy for her. The simple fact is, had she come out as as Stefani Germanotta and never did her weird, random Gaga thing, she wouldn't be one of the biggest stars in the world today. She'd be a girl with a beautiful voice that likely faded into the background by the time anyone knew her name well enough to pick up her album.

And I mean really, it's not like she's the only one doing what she does. Rihanna, who I also love, spent much of her during and post-Chris Brown career (late-Good Girl Gone Bad through Rated R era) in unusual outfits that had people believing she had become anything from demonic (stupid people, mind you, but people) to super edgy and unique and what did it get her? Super stardom. Before that, when she was just a pretty West Indian good girl? Only very minor success.

Ke$ha? As much of a hot mess as she is, she's huge because of it. If she sang her same songs but didn't dress like a drunken whore who chronically vomits glitter all the time she'd probably be irrelevant today.

Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, etc., hell even these girls' most recent precursors (Beyonce, Britney, Lil Kim, etc.) and of course the ones before them (Madonna, Janet Jackson, Cyndi Lauper) have been guilty of it, to varying degrees.

The fact is, in this world the music is no longer enough to hold the attention of the people that consume it. Image has become almost equally important Is that a bad thing? Not necessarily. Image is just as much a part of performance and artistry as the music it's built around.

Am I shocked by extravagant outfits, over-the-top stage props, facial prosthetics? Not really. But am I entertained? Yup. And really, that should be all that matters.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

Now is all about looking "fierce". It's a term some people use to describe the tacky shit they don't know if they should hate because of their impaired ability to sieve proper talent from shit.

... Fuck, someone called me "fierce" once.

That being said, I am not watching Lady Gaga for art or music. She's fun to listen to and watch. I like Eh Eh song because it has a nice beat, and her music vids usually has cute guys in it. Once in a while, it's good to enjoy something less serious.

That's about it. Unless you are talking about the Gagastanis or the Abdul Britney Al-Spears Sect or the KGB.eyonce or Julius Kesha or Madonna Zedong or Kim Jong-Rihannas, I don't see why you shouldn't "get" her.

Amy Winehouse is my Supreme Master, the Lord, the Savior and you must accept her music for salvation.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

ANOTHER one of these threads? Already???

If you don't "get" Gaga now, you probably never will. Honestly she's weird and she knows that, the world knows that, what is there to get? As long as she's happy and continues putting out music that me and her other fans enjoy, I'm happy for her. The simple fact is, had she come out as as Stefani Germanotta and never did her weird, random Gaga thing, she wouldn't be one of the biggest stars in the world today. She'd be a girl with a beautiful voice that likely faded into the background by the time anyone knew her name well enough to pick up her album.

And I mean really, it's not like she's the only one doing what she does. Rihanna, who I also love, spent much of her during and post-Chris Brown career (late-Good Girl Gone Bad through Rated R era) in unusual outfits that had people believing she had become anything from demonic (stupid people, mind you, but people) to super edgy and unique and what did it get her? Super stardom. Before that, when she was just a pretty West Indian good girl? Only very minor success.

Ke? As much of a hot mess as she is, she's huge because of it. If she sang her same songs but didn't dress like a drunken whore who chronically vomits glitter all the time she'd probably be irrelevant today.

Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, etc., hell even these girls' most recent precursors (Beyonce, Britney, Lil Kim, etc.) and of course the ones before them (Madonna, Janet Jackson, Cyndi Lauper) have been guilty of it, to varying degrees.

The fact is, in this world the music is no longer enough to hold the attention of the people that consume it. Image has become almost equally important Is that a bad thing? Not necessarily. Image is just as much a part of performance and artistry as the music it's built around.

Am I shocked by extravagant outfits, over-the-top stage props, facial prosthetics? Not really. But am I entertained? Yup. And really, that should be all that matters.

The bold portion i'd agree with if you're talking about POP music... otherwise, quite thankfully, that simply isn't true. ..|
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

Compare this to Madonna who crafted strong, enduring visual statements that still resonate. Her looks supported her music, her ideas and various projects and they were done so amazingly well. By contrast Ms. Gaga looks homespun.

They're both doing(or, have done) the exact same thing - crafting an image, however controversial, that you won't soon forget.

So maybe you really don't get it.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

Compare this to Madonna who crafted strong, enduring visual statements that still resonate. Her looks supported her music, her ideas and various projects and they were done so amazingly well. By contrast Ms. Gaga looks homespun.

Maybe it's because I'm 23 and very much remember Gaga's meteoric rise to fame and how she challenged our notions of style and influenced popular culture.

This past few weeks I caught Madonna's performances on Oprah, SNL and Good Morning America. She can sing, her songs are fun and danceable -- I get that. I am also aware of her support of the LGBT community.

What I do not seem to understand is the whole Madonna package. The costumes of her dancers and herself particularly on GMA were kind of like "meh" Okay, guys are dancing in skirts. Okay, she's wearing a pointy patent leather jacket. Okay, she's writhing around in a vat of lavender gray goo. It was a confusing mish mash, as if her creative director and stylist are some fashion school students desperately trying to outfit her in "shocking" or "provocative" clothes. The looks come across as neither.

I mean, Gaga sang in front of burning crosses, kissed a black saint and developed stigmata and that was in one video!! Madonna shows up in a translucent egg and everyone's like "oh, my goodness!"

;)
 
Re: The Official LADY GAGA Mega-thread

If i wanted to hear incredibly vapid and shitty dance music I'd Google the 90's.

We're not talking about The Fame here... If you think Born This Way can be described as an "incredibly vapid and shitty dance music" album either you haven't heard it yet or you're utterly [STRIKE]dumb[/STRIKE] deaf.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

The bold portion i'd agree with if you're talking about POP music... otherwise, quite thankfully, that simply isn't true. ..|

I am talking about pop music, and specifically about a certain kind of pop music, hence all of the people I mentioned (Gaga, Rihanna, Ke$ha, Katy Perry, Madonna, Cyndi, etc. - all belong to a certain sect of the pop genre). I realize that this isn't true for other genres because I am primarily of fan of other genres over pop, particularly alternative, rock, soul, and (as much as it may surprise people) metal.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

They're both doing(or, have done) the exact same thing - crafting an image, however controversial, that you won't soon forget.

So maybe you really don't get it.

This is what I'm getting at. People like to make Madonna into this entity that no one else to duplicate, same with Gaga. Fact is, they've both done much the same for their respective generations. In my eyes nothing Madonna did was any more holy crap than Gaga, she just did it first. For anyone that wasn't around for Madonna's reign or never paid attention, Gaga is their opportunity to see something similar. And don't think there won't be another. There will always be over the top, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get noticed performers in the pop genre. It's part of the territory when you're trying to be queen of the genre.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

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Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

Yah, you totally didn't get what I was saying. All fanfare is no fanfare. Seriously at this point, the most outrageous act she could do is appear in jeans, a blouse and normal hair. Everyone would shriek, "Oh, my gawd, did you see Lady Gaga?!"

Compare this to Madonna who crafted strong, enduring visual statements that still resonate. Her looks supported her music, her ideas and various projects and they were done so amazingly well. By contrast Ms. Gaga looks homespun.

Oh but I do get what you're saying. I just hold a different opinion on the matter. There's a difference.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

I have no problem with dance music. However I really don't get her either. Not saying she has no talent but I think the main thing she does is prey on peoples' stupidity and/or forgetfulness. She is trying to be the next Madonna. Her outfits and "outrageousness" is just what Madonna did 20 years ago but isn't as clever. I'm pretty close to Lady Gaga's age and I'm sure she grew up seeing all those early 90's video's of Madonna so she is aware she is copying her. I don't get how other people don't see that.

It also wouldn't be as annoying if she wasn't so damn pretentious in interviews. She acts like she's so brilliant and known for her songwriting skills. I reality all her lyrics are ra ra Lady Gaga and I don't think that's comparable with Beethoven or something. She does catchy music and that's about it. So does every pop star. What is even worse is how other people act. It's fine to like her, but people act like she has no faults whatsoever. It is possible for someone to not like her because she's overrated, not because we are hateful or "not thinking outside the box".
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

I recently read an article where the author likened her to a first-year art student. I can't say that I disagree.

The work she's done for the LGBT community is wonderful, but she needs to can the schticky videos/performances/outfits/etc. and rely solely upon her singing and songwriting abilities. The Marilyn Manson comparison drawn by MoufOfKhaos is apt -- remember how "obscene" and "polarizing" he was when he first rose to fame? Do you also remember how quickly the public tired of him, and how his antics grew so predictable and boring that 11-year-old girls were voting for his videos to be played on MTV's Total Request Live?

Gaga needs to be careful, otherwise her career will follow a similar path.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

^So that was all in one year?
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

The OP is 41, and thus not who Lady Gaga nor any of the modern pop music world is catering to. You're too old frankly. It's not an insult, it is what it is. Just as BMW and Audi aren't targeting 21 year olds for their products, but rather the 35 to 55 crowd.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

I don't think she is for everyone to "get." And that's okay.

People say she dresses "crazy" for shock value, and that's definitely a plausible explanation.

I've heard her explanation, and I guess I'm not jaded enough (yet) to dismiss it as "shit her publicist told her to say" - I happen to truly believe she is a self-made artist.

Gaga says she dresses over the top because she's a lover of fashion - she always knows exactly what she's putting on, what influenced it, who designed it, etc. She also says she dresses knowing that it will inspire fans to not feel so self-conscious about being different: "If Lady Gaga can wear a dress made out of meat, me having purple hair doesn't seem out of this world." She makes abnormal the norm. I think that's a bit beautiful, personally.

At this point, I've given up on the mentality that "if only she'd dress normally, and focus on just singing and songwriting..." Fuck that. There's a reason she's where she's at right now, and it's because she didn't let conservative music execs and the public water her down.
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

I have often wondered what her theatrics are about. I don't really get the prostetics and other things.

I've interpreted this as Gaga exaggerating the things bullies or hateful people have said about her. "You have bony shoulders!" "Her cheeks are weird." "Look at that ugly ass fivehead."

Who said Gaga doesn't have a sense of humor?
 
Re: I don't "get" Lady Gaga

That last part of the "Born This Way" video (The "Michael Jackson" part) drives this home...the close-up of her in the prosthetics, tears in her eyes (gap in her mouth ;) ).
 
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