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Liberal Hypocrisy on Misogyny

^ course it is - cuz the liberal establishment and the JUBBERclubbers have a policy of evaluating who says the comments and who they're directed to

that is the code

LOL

Bill Maher can say anything he wants regardless of how crude because ..........

A - it's about a republican female politician we loathe
B - she's a public figure so it's ok
C - he doesn't have paying sponsors
D - all of the above

Answer: D

and Mitt Romney's wife - she's a cunt

Twilight Zone esque w/o the good looking cast
 
American culture has made attacking public figures a spectator sport. Whether we like it or not is not the issue here. It's a fact. It's normal, it's expected, and those public figures have the means to respond and defend themselves if they want. A regular person does not. I'd like Chance to comment on that instead of trying to spin everything into some political confrontation.

Also, I just typed this on my iPhone. Chance just wants to annoy on EVERY possible level, including format.

I missed the memo about the public figures/spectator sport thing

but if i had seen it i cannot imagine that calling sarah palin a stupid twat would be considered good sport

defend themselves against stupid twat? what could one say?

bill has a tiny penis?

bill does a comb over?

nah

thick can be a very good thing

but not here

lot of the regulars who spew misogynistic comments have not participated here

are they:

A - embarrassed
B - chicken shit
C - jerking off
D - all of the above

it's a trick question
 
Both sides will go way over what's appropriate...Rush and other conservatives were terribly over the line with their comments.Yet it is a badge of honor on the left to denounce women not progressive in such language.They're ignorant cunts,they deserve being torn down in the basest language they're so stupid..that's how it is with many on the left.What I've come to despise about a good number of them is just how arrogant and nasty they can be.I am no fan of the usual suspect female conservatives,but if one demands respect and civility but dispenses derision then well,I don't really think it speaks well of one's intellectual honesty.

The right will basically tarnish feminists as lesbians and buttinskis or free love sluts...but the left(in both cases,I'm talking of the activists who drive their respective movements,not EVERY mildly liberal or conservative person who doesn't deal in promoting caricatures of the other)despite its own self congratulatory sense of enlightenment,is a mirror image.It's that way with the whole scene of so-called diversity the left preaches....rainbow conformity is more like it.They believe in the basic rights and dignity of all races,creeds(not so much that anymore),sexes,sexual identities...so long as everyone agrees with the whole left agenda.If you don't....it's open season!


Kristen is really gutsy....she appears on FOX and while she isn't a raving ideologue she is pretty damn proud of being liberal.She definitely doesn't shrink from giving her own opinion...sometimes she's moderate,others very much in the liberal column but she definitely always has a honest directness about her,and no sugarcoating her policy differences with the conservatives she has to deal with.

Hey Sausy. Another nice drive down the fairway!

It's not because they're upset by his language. As you've pointed out, the other side is every bit as egregious.

It's about silencing opposition.

The who with the what now?
 
Oh, it's the Jan Brady stance. Instead of crying "It's always Marcia, Marcia, Marcia", you cry "It's always Liberals, Liberals, Liberals!" Poor Jan.:-({|=
 
Okay, my conservative sex monkey (you know you LOVE it) Here's what I like and don't like about this list. Things get out of hand and get pretty wild on both sides but I'm not sure all of these things qualify as misogynistic or even outrageous. Hear me out, I'll explain more at the end:


1 - Chris Matthews attacking Hillary Clinton during 2008 Dem campaign

Thank you for sending me the link when I asked for it. I remember sexist claims from 2008 but, reading these, I don't quite see it. I don't feel that acknowledging that Hillary Clinton (who, by the way, was my candidate all the way) is female is actually sexist. This one we may not come to any agreement on (there were plenty who felt it was), but I think Chris would have been just as hard and said similar things (and has) about a male candidate.

2 - Ed Schultz saying Sarah Palin set off a "bimbo alert" and saying Laura Ingraham was a "right wing slut"

No disagreement here. I find Schultz to be a left wing wannabe Sean Hannity (and said as much to you, somewhere) who often has his heart in the right place but just as often comes across as a screaming boob. There WAS outrage about this though, from both sides (as there should have been.)

3 - Keith O said that conservative commentator S.E. Cupp should have been "aborted by her parents" and called Michelle Malkin a “mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick.”

Mean? Yes. Outrageous? Yes. Misogynistic? I don't see it. Again, there's nothing here that Olbermann wouldn't have said about a man (except for the lipstick part but I don't see how acknowledging that Malkin wears lipstick can be considered hating women.) Was Keith talking about her attractiveness or her character?

4 - Matt Taibbi, he of the Andrew Breitbart obit "death of a douche" hates woman conservatives as well - he said of michelle malkin “When I read her stuff, I imagine her narrating her text, book-on-tape style, with a big, hairy set of balls in her mouth.”

Ugh!!!! The WORST! You win this one hands down.

5 - bill maher called sarah palin a "dumb twat"

Did he call her a twat or a cunt? I thought it was cunt. Anyway, I think this really depends on your tolerance level for that word. The word doesn't offend me, personally. I think it's a word that freaks people out and has a lot of power beyond its definition. I love that. As others have said, it is a word that is a metaphorical pejorative like dick, asshole, and douchebag. Is it a nice word? NO. Do I blame NOW for taking him to task for it? NO. Does it bother me when I hear someone use it? NO it does not.

I have a female friend who uses the word as an adjective for anything "too fancy," posh or chi chi (eg "I LOVE this restaurant, it's soooo cunty!") Makes me laugh every time.

I have ANOTHER female friend who hates and is completely offended by that word in any form. She considers it misogynistic and hateful (and LOATHES Maher for using it.) That is her right and I "get that" too.

I only bring this up to illustrate that it means different things to different people. If you use the word, you do so at your own peril and have to take the consequences. I will not defend the use of that word to you if that word offends you, however, I don't personally find it offensive or consider it misogynistic (any more than I would consider calling someone a 'dick' to be anti-male.)

That being said, you have to agree that Rush Limbaugh has said many negative things about females over the years (elected officials and women in power positions) without the accompanying firestorm that we see today.

Rush knows that a woman (or man) in the public sector is fair game and has attacked (as has the left) without any of us going on a crusade or screaming for his dismissal.

He's been calling Nancy Pelosi both "botox-filled" and "Queen Nancy" forever. There are well known sexist Rush remarks on record about Barbara Boxer, Sandra Sotomayor, Sarah Palin and I won't even start on what he's said about Hillary Clinton over the years. All of these women are fair game and no one has gotten into an uproar about it (at least not to this level) before.

What's different? Rather than being metaphoric and hyperbolic pejoratives, the words he used were (though milder and more socially acceptable) specific descriptive nouns that point to action and character and he did it to a private citizen who (he thought) had no way to fight back.

So, in short (sarcasm) I don't see as much of a double standard as much as this just being different from previous nasty attacks that both sides are capable of launching.

I doubt we'll agree on this, but we'll always have Alex Waters!! !oops!
 
^ Ironically, it is interesting that some can get away with calling people names and insulting them with impunity whereas any criticism of them or their tactics is regarded as too 'personal'.

Sometimes it is just about silencing opposition.

But the fact is that each of the liberals cited in the above post came in for a huge amount of criticism, not only from the right, but from the left. From both men and women. It not only led to censure in some cases, but to suspension.

It is unfair and dishonest to imply that this was not the case.
 
^ Let me guess....

I suspect that this is less a tirade against the liberal media and more a tirade about the OP's ongoing hatred for the liberals who post here and best him in argument after argument.

It is up to the viewers/listeners and employers of the media figures to tell them when they are over the line.

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The constant rush to the defense of some of the most vile, morally and intellectually bankrupt and cynical demagogues and elevating them to patron saints of the reactionary right is bizarre beyond belief.

Rush is a cunt.





Breitbart was a cunt. Now he is a maggot factory.

Bachmann is a total prick.

Romney is a stupid twat.

Malkin is a stupid dick.

Ingraham is not a slut. She isn't appealing enough. She is a nazi homophobe.

get over it

.org

Sad. Just sad. Very disappointed, but not surprised.
 
^ Oh boo hoo.

It is all faux outrage.

But you see what I did there? We call guys stupid pricks and dicks all the time and no one carries on like a Greek Chorus about how it it is sexist and demeaning to men. But we also call them dumb cunts and twats as well. For me, cunt is an equal opportunity term.

Maybe you don't like derogatory terms. Or me. Whatever. I honestly couldn't care less.

The issue here is when a media personality targets someone, is their intent sexist or misogynistic?

And yes, it happens on both the right and the left. As many have pointed out, Rush Limbaugh has been an offender of the first order in diminishing women by using their sex against them.

And in the case that generated this thread, he savaged a fine woman and in fact, all women with his prurient and hypocritical rants about their sexual behaviour...all the while, probably high fiving himself for all the free pussy he's nailed in his life.
 
^ Oh boo hoo.

It is all faux outrage.

But you see what I did there? We call guys stupid pricks and dicks all the time and no one carries on like a Greek Chorus about how it it is sexist and demeaning to men. But we also call them dumb cunts and twats as well. For me, cunt is an equal opportunity term.

Maybe you don't like derogatory terms. Or me. Whatever. I honestly couldn't care less.

The issue here is when a media personality targets someone, is their intent sexist or misogynistic?

And yes, it happens on both the right and the left. As many have pointed out, Rush Limbaugh has been an offender of the first order in diminishing women by using their sex against them.

And in the case that generated this thread, he savaged a fine woman and in fact, all women with his prurient and hypocritical rants about their sexual behaviour...all the while, probably high fiving himself for all the free pussy he's nailed in his life.

Always a double standard.

Care to all Maher, Matthews, and the others the "c" word?
 
Sure, Maher, Matthews and Olbermann have all behaved like stupid cunts on some occasions.

there.

Better?
 
I don't think any of those people calling others names wanted the "dumb twat" to send a sex video so they could watch and see what they were paying for.

You see you seem to be cutting his Limbaugh's main comment out concentrating on the word slut or whore.

Would you want Rush to ask your Mother or Sister if he could get a copy of them having sex so he could see what he is paying for?
 
Erick Erickson, who works for CNN as a contributor - Tea Party guy - conservative

takes issue with the Liberals attempt to "silence the right"

he's right of course - he says .......

Many on the left and right, myself included, have said things we should not have said. The difference is that the left seizes on the statements made by the right as excuses to demand they never be heard from again and are unqualified to speak on any topic. They harass advertisers. They harass networks. They harass the conservative who said what it was as well. Any unforced error is seized to shut down the right in a way that does not apply to the left. If at first they are not successful, they will work to compound the story, manufacture outrage, and seize on statements and twist words to build a case against the conservative in question that they should be shut up and turned off.

Rarely do people on the right operate in the same aggressive way against the left.

good read and dead on frankly

I'm sure you'll agree ;)

crickets

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/03/06/silencing-the-right/
 
What saddens me is this forced party loyalty which makes decent people defend monsters like Limbaugh... As if he's only said that ONE thing and hasn't been a constant beacon of darkness for so many years....
 
^ LOL

you're hopeless

you obviously DID NOT read the piece

he and other repubs/cons said what Rush did was deplorable

for you and others .............

it's as if Rush exists - his misogyny exists

and NOTHING ELSE does

head in the sand much? ;)
 
I said you clearly didn't read the piece

because if you did you could not make the argument you made

as the author (and many well know conservatives) take Rush to task strongly for his words

unlike you and other liberals who will not do so for hateful speech by libs

BO taking Bill Maher's $1 million then trashing rush for his words is hypocritical and selective

hope that helps
 
That it does. However, I'm forced to remind you I'm a liberal, not a Democrat. Im also a foreigner, and since I focus on gay issues, Dems rarely come in the picture in a negative light. I haven't followed on Maher so I can't comment. However, this whole "but, but, but they do it too!" argument is just weak.
 
^ well the main offenders on the other side of Rush are liberals:

Maher
Taibbi
Olberman
Schultz
Matthews

just a few listed here

as for "weak" I'd say it's more "inconvenient" ;)

agreed on Dems and gay rights - they're much more favorable to our basic cause

no argument there
 
^ you're one of the good ones :)

very good

and u like alex and jarrod ;)

most of the "offenders" do drive bys or not at all

they never address the opposing viewpoint
 
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