Lockdown at the US Capitol

[smokeshadow]

Trump Lawyers Envisioned Jan. 6 Lasting Days or Weeks: Report

Donald Trump’s attorneys hatched a scheme to overturn the 2020 presidential election by creating so much chaos that January 6 – the scheduled counting of the electoral votes to formally certify the winner of the election – would be delayed, lasting days if not weeks, and with Congress unable to...

www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com

 

[KaraBulut]

We have been sounding the alarm about this for decades.

The evangelicals have weaponized christianity and have in turn, been weaponized by evil people who understand how the mob can be used.

I happened upon another thread in the forum with hand-wringing about Muslim elected officials, which is what made me think of the Alberta articles I read last week. It's amazing that a lot of people see the dangers in Islamist extremism but they're blind to what is happening with Christian Nationalism in the US/Europe or Orthodox Jewish extremism in Israel.

It was just a little over 3 years ago that I was posting about those weird "Q" signs that were showing up at Trump's Nationalist rallies and wondering what that was all about. Little did we know how bad it was and how deep this stuff had gotten into the churches during the Trump years.

A brief interview with Tim Alberta about Christian White Nationalism taking over American churches:

 

[Kulindahr]

A brief interview with Tim Alberta about Christian White Nationalism taking over American churches:

More reason to change how we elect people so that the fringe can be diluted.

Part of the video reminded me of an election here where most of the churches in town were pushing some measure and the pastor at the Lutheran church just down the block refused to even let the matter be discussed in church. Amazingly, it didn't result in anyone leaving, but also amazingly it brought a couple of families from churches that allowed political signs on their property.

 

[KaraBulut]

More reason to change how we elect people so that the fringe can be diluted.

Part of the video reminded me of an election here where most of the churches in town were pushing some measure and the pastor at the Lutheran church just down the block refused to even let the matter be discussed in church. Amazingly, it didn't result in anyone leaving, but also amazingly it brought a couple of families from churches that allowed political signs on their property.

A forgotten and related story: Early on, when Trump was courting the evangelicals in 2016, he was warned by establishment Republicans about the Christian right's agenda. Trump's response, "Why don't we just give them what they want?".

One of the things they wanted? A repeal of the Johnson Amendment that says that churches are tax-exempt as long as they respect the wall between Church and State and not get involved in politics. Both liberal and conservative churches have wanted the Johnson Amendment to go away so that they can lobby for politicians from the pulpit.

Remember that 2017 tax bill that the Republican's rammed through before they lost the Congress in Jan, 2018? Tucked in that bill was an attempt to repeal the Johnson Amendment. It was pulled from the bill shortly before it was passed on parliamentary grounds. It was close.

Johnson Amendment Repeal Removed from Final GOP Tax Bill - Christianity Today

(UPDATED) Trump promise to let churches make political endorsements blocked by Senate rule.

www.christianitytoday.com

President Donald Trump’s biggest religious freedom policy promise to evangelicals—repealing the Johnson Amendment—will no longer take place via Republican tax reform.

A Democratic senator announced Thursday night that the repeal included in the House version of the tax bill, which would allow churches and other nonprofits to endorse candidates without losing their tax-exempt status, was removed during the reconciliation process with the Senate version, which did not include a repeal.

According to Senator Ron Wyden, the senior Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, the Johnson Amendment repeal was blocked by the Senate parliamentarian. Because of a requirement called the Byrd Rule, reconciliation bills—which are passed through a simple Senate majority—cannot contain “extraneous” provisions that don’t primarily deal with fiscal policy, The Wall Street Journal reported.

In spite of this, Trump still runs around telling evangelicals that he got rid of the Johnson Amendment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/09/president-trumps-shifting-claim-that-we-got-rid-johnson-amendment/

 

[KaraBulut]

Another one that hasn't been charged...

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/03/05/kenneth-chesebro-trump-texts-emails-fake-elector-plot-cohen-ac360-vpx.cnn

 

[rareboy]

And never will be.

You can be sure he wasn't among the smash and grab posse. People like him and Jones were smart enough to stay well behind and to likely fuck off out of there as fast as possible when the real rioting started.

 

[rareboy]

 

[rareboy]

As expected, sleazebucket Navarro is looking to the Trump Court to save his withered ass from being gang-banged in white collar jail. The precendent would have staggering consequences.

Trump adviser Peter Navarro asks Supreme Court to keep him out of prison

The former Trump White House official is scheduled to report to a federal prison in Florida by Tuesday at 2 p.m. ET.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[KaraBulut]

Orange is the new orange.

Justice Roberts rejects Navarro’s last-ditch bid to stay out of prison

Ex-Trump White House adviser Peter Navarro must report to prison Tuesday after Chief Justice John Roberts shot down his last-ditch bid to remain free while appealing his contempt of Congress convic…

thehill.com

Ex-Trump White House adviser Peter Navarro must report to prison Tuesday after Chief Justice John Roberts shot down his last-ditch bid to remain free while appealing his contempt of Congress conviction.

Roberts said Monday that he will not pause Navarro’s four-month prison sentence as his appeal moves forward.

Navarro has been ordered to report to a Miami prison Tuesday afternoon to begin his sentence, which will make him the first key Trump adviser to serve jail time over efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

 

[rareboy]

Gee.

Too bad it is only him.

 

[KaraBulut]

One down. Next!

 

[rareboy]

He sounds like such an infantile fuckwad.

Hated him when he was fucking with NAFTA (although laughed when the US ended up with less than they would have had under TPPP) and have been wishing him into prison and Hell for helping to enable Trump at his own gain those 4 years.

Bite me.

 

[rareboy]

The other thing of course is that he is undoubtedly headed to a white collar section of the hoosegow where it will be 'scary' like 60 minutes without your cellphone or computer is "scary".

Remorseless. Unrepentant. And still counting on a post sentence pardon to launch him back into the GQP sphere of influence.

He is less 'pissed' about the prison sentance than he is the potential banishment to the hinterlands if the guy he has been sucking farts from doesn't win the Oval Office.

 

[KaraBulut]

The other thing of course is that he is undoubtedly headed to a white collar section of the hoosegow where it will be 'scary' like 60 minutes without your cellphone or computer is "scary"...

He's not going to a "Club Fed", oddly enough. He's headed to the prison in Kendall which is next to the Miami Zoo and a military base. It's an older prison and it still has "communal accommodations" which means he's likely to be sleeping in a large ward with cots or bunk beds with other older male inmates. Since it's Florida, it is air conditioned.

 

[TX-Beau]

Gee.

Too bad it is only him.

Preach!

 

[TX-Beau]

The other thing of course is that he is undoubtedly headed to a white collar section of the hoosegow where it will be 'scary' like 60 minutes without your cellphone or computer is "scary".

Remorseless. Unrepentant. And still counting on a post sentence pardon to launch him back into the GQP sphere of influence.

He is less 'pissed' about the prison sentance than he is the potential banishment to the hinterlands if the guy he has been sucking farts from doesn't win the Oval Office.

To be fair, he's loathsome, but he ignored a subpoena, not slaughtered 40 children.

 

[rareboy]

He's not going to a "Club Fed", oddly enough. He's headed to the prison in Kendall which is next to the Miami Zoo and a military base. It's an older prison and it still has "communal accommodations" which means he's likely to be sleeping in a large ward with cots or bunk beds with other older male inmates. Since it's Florida, it is air conditioned.

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Well there's safety in numbers, I suppose.

At least he is less likely to be Epsteined while behind bars.

 

[KaraBulut]

Well there's safety in numbers, I suppose.

At least he is less likely to be Epsteined while behind bars.

Epstein was a liability because he knew things about important people. Navarro has given no evidence that he knows anything. He certainly hasn't learned anything.

Navarro wasn't even a cabinet official. He was just an "economic adviser" who was hired by Trump off Fox News because Navarro was always spouting off about punishing China through Federal trade policy. His biggest qualification seemed to be his love to be in front of a camera which resulted in him blathering about things he knew nothing about, like the COVID pandemic.

One would think that given Navarro's love of talking, he would have been happy to be interviewed by the Congressional Committee investigating Jan 6th. Instead, he decided to pretend that he was a man of principle who had some sort of privilege that got him out of answering a Congressional subpoena.

So, for the next 3-4 months, 74 year old Navarro will be living like a 20-something in Army boot camp in a ward with other low-level criminals, sleeping around a bunch of snoring men, showering in communal showers and taking a dump in a barracks-style latrine.

And for his sudden discovery of "principles", he's blown a million on legal fees (Trump paid $300,000 of the fees) but still ended up in prison.

Why is Steve Bannon still out on bond when he received the same sentence as Navarro?

Why were members of Congress exempted from answering their Jan 6th subpoenas?

 

[rareboy]

Navarro is the one under the wheels of the bus...as you point out, probably so low level that the thinking is he will pay for all the sins of the members of Congress who defied subpoenae....

As for Bannon, it is amazing that he was allowed to roam free while his case is under appeal...but Navarro's loss may portend future similar results for him....and his own trial for fraud over the Border Wall grift begins in May.

 

[KaraBulut]

...
As for Bannon, it is amazing that he was allowed to roam free while his case is under appeal...but Navarro's loss may portend future similar results for him....and his own trial for fraud over the Border Wall grift begins in May.

The fact that Bannon is a convicted (but pardoned) fraudster and a millionaire flight risk should be enough for DOJ to ask that his bail be revoked... and there's that little problem with sedition that he always seems to be a fellow traveler for...