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Max Blumenthal, the GOP, and the Religious Right

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Ran across this today and listened to this talk given by Blumenthal in Berkley CA..it's in regard to his book, Republican Gomorrah.

It's an hour and 10 minutes long and very informative. He talks about how the GOP invited in the radical right wing during Reagan, who the movers and shakers are, C Street, Palin etc.

http://fora.tv/2009/09/29/Republican_Gomorrah_Max_Blumenthal

Max made a video about Israel that has been banned from UTube, Huffington Post, and Vimeo...you can see it here.

http://maxblumenthal.com/feeling-the-hate-in-jerusalem/

He feels there isn't enough 'real reporting' about what is going on in facist Israel right now...he's referring to the new government and their recent actions. I agree with him, I don't think there is enough reporting on how the Israelis do as they please and the Arabs are told to 'live with it'....why do we unquestioningly support Israel regardless? Sorry rhetorical question.
 
That banned video has a bunch of jewish, american teabaggers on it. What are they going on about? Obama talking to the other side? Why doesn't Israel stop trying to settle land that isn't theirs? Why don't the American evangelical churches that support these actions stop sending them money?

It's bigger than Egypt and Israel...it seems to me that some Israelis feel their own form of exceptionalism.
 
You're very welcome Bob..glad you enjoyed it. I've been making noise about these hard right wing cults and their theocratic designs on our nation for some time now. Another place to keep track of what's going down is at talk2action.com...that's where I first heard about them 'colonizing' the military, and the Air Force Academy specifically. Nasty people...

They aren't going to go away...we need to shine a bright light on all the connections and keep an eye on them. They have been around a long time...C Street is a good example.

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm never sure what I should post here..the feedback from you guys helps.
 
Has he followed Admiral Alfie? I hope not...I wish Admiral Alfie would come back...maybe I should ask why you're asking about him Bob.

I found your post in hot topics...I hope he comes back soon.
 
When the GOP became the party of the religious right in 1970's is when I left the party. It is now God's Only Party with the prophets of late Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson and rest of the money grabbing tv preachers.
 
True, however there is much more to it than that. I hope you watched the video because he explains much that isn't apparent without research.
 
I personally enjoyed the psychology behind the republican party and it is very true.
 
It's bigger than Egypt and Israel...it seems to me that some Israelis feel their own form of exceptionalism.

Given that Israel has all around it countries still technically at war with them, and with leaders who want to see all Jews dead, and that they've fought several wars because of those things, I can understand them feeling "their own form of exceptionalism".

It's one of those things where one wishes for a time machine, to go back and tell the Arabs, "Accept the two-party state, because if you don't, your children and grandchildren are going to grow up poor, treated like cattle, and many of them will never grow up, and many who do won't be whole, but be cripples for life".

I watched the entire thing. Brilliant! Thank you very much for posting the link, boogalee.

Max Blumenthal is a true journalist, and has the story of the rise of the radical right down exactly. The Republican party ignored Eisenhower's warning of the radical religious right when they started infiltrating during Reagan's administration. All JUBBERS who are right wing Republicans should watch this so you can find out why you are the way you are. He says it so much better than I could and it's exactly what I've always believed.

Blumenthal is good, though he's not as good a speaker as I expected.

If the Republicans had remained Eisenhower-type folks.... <shurg>

You're very welcome Bob..glad you enjoyed it. I've been making noise about these hard right wing cults and their theocratic designs on our nation for some time now. Another place to keep track of what's going down is at talk2action.com...that's where I first heard about them 'colonizing' the military, and the Air Force Academy specifically. Nasty people...

The Air Force Academy took me by surprise. A lot of what he had to say was no news to me; some of it I observed from inside the Christian Right before I had that demon cast out of me :badgrin:. I know that Campus Crusade for Christ has strong ties to the Academy, and so does the Institute for Basic Youth Conflicts, but I didn't realize just how deep the infiltration by Dobson's minions was.

Thinking of Dobson, ever since one summer at a gathering called "Jesus Northwest", he's given me the creeps. They played tapes of him in one of the booths, and I remember standing staring at one of the TV screens practically holding my jaw in my hand, because he was flat out lying about things any decently educated person should know better. I forget which of his books I bought to check out, but I remember thinking, before more than two chapters in, "This guy is deranged -- he's pulling crap from Greek philosophy and mythology, wrapping Bible verses around it, and telling people it's the truth!" I guess I was naive, but having considered claims on my own and come to Christ, I really believed that leaders in such high positions would be honest and trustworthy. #-o

When the GOP became the party of the religious right in 1970's is when I left the party. It is now God's Only Party with the prophets of late Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson and rest of the money grabbing tv preachers.

I didn't leave it quite so soon; the party as I knew it was still pretty much the party of Eisenhower and Goldwater.
Then came Reagan, whom I liked, and all the propaganda extolling him as almost an anointed leader, and the sludge shoveled out by the Republican National Committee -- on which I bought a seat (only fifty bucks) just to get the inside stuff. Before Reagan was gone, I couldn't take any more, and told them where to shove it (but not before I;d collected a whole pile of postage-paid reply envelopes, which I filled with remnants of applications for the Publishers' Clearing House sweepstakes and sent in...).

When I was at OSU, a grad student did research on how the Religious Blight took over the GOP, and it was scary. He didn't trace it back as far as Rushdoonie, as Blumenthal did, but he did track down actual strategy plans for a step-by-step seizure of power from the bottom up. One of their models was how the more radical left elements in the 60s got so much influence and accomplished so much!

I just thought of a bumper sticker that would be fun:

God said it. I believe it.
Now I don't have to think -- yay!
 
I personally enjoyed the psychology behind the republican party and it is very true.

I have a problem with one element of the research he talked about, with the sexual arousal thing: since then, the reliability of the plethysmograph has been seriously challenged, since there are more reactions than just arousal which can change the diameter of the penis. Fear is one, as is anxiety, and if all increases are counted as sexual arousal, then reactions which are virtually completely the opposite are being counted -- and there go the results.
 
WOW! What a great group of people with main stream ideas.

Noam Chomsky
Media Matters
Michael Moore
UC at Berkley
Amy Goodman

You can mirror this hate on extreme right wing blogs.

One thing (among many) I cannot understand - why do some many left wing Jewish Americans hate Israel and side with Muslims when extreme Muslims don't care whether the left wing Jews support Israel or not. The extreme Muslims want to kill all Jews.

You would think they would have learned from past experiences in Russia where communism was so broadly supported then the Communists tortured and killed so many Jews. A good movie to watch would be Reds by Warren Beatty.

I've gotten to 27 minutes on the video. Can't watch anymore -- Christians do not pray for other people to die.
 
I watched the whole thing. This guy is not a member of the media or a journalist. He's a blogger.
 
I've gotten to 27 minutes on the video. Can't watch anymore -- Christians do not pray for other people to die.

Bets?

I've been there, heard it. I heard prayers for Clinton to die, prayers that Janet Reno be delivered to Satan "for the cleansing of her soul".
Then they all sang "Onward Christian Soldiers".


I hate that song.
 
WOW! What a great group of people with main stream ideas.

Noam Chomsky
Media Matters
Michael Moore
UC at Berkley
Amy Goodman

You can mirror this hate on extreme right wing blogs.

You consider factual information hateful? You consider a difference of opinion hateful? Where is information on the left on par with the hate spewed daily by the likes of Limbaugh and his cronies?

One thing (among many) I cannot understand - why do some many left wing Jewish Americans hate Israel and side with Muslims when extreme Muslims don't care whether the left wing Jews support Israel or not. The extreme Muslims want to kill all Jews.

First of all, you are mixed up by your right wing talking points...when someone disagrees with policy it doesn't mean they hate (insert name) or that they side with (insert name). This is the kind of propaganda that has kept this conflict going so long.

You would think they would have learned from past experiences in Russia where communism was so broadly supported then the Communists tortured and killed so many Jews. A good movie to watch would be Reds by Warren Beatty.

Again, you are confused by the propaganda on the right that anyone who isn't as off the charts right wing is a pinko communist and uninformed. What, by the way does this have to do with the OP?


I've gotten to 27 minutes on the video. Can't watch anymore -- Christians do not pray for other people to die.

The hell they don't...they use imprecatory prayer all the time...ie...Imprecatory prayer is prayer asking God to kill, maim, curse, send into eternal damnation, or otherwise harm an enemy. It's called a curse by those who can think...I guess Christians are no different that Black Witches.
 
Bets?

I've been there, heard it. I heard prayers for Clinton to die, prayers that Janet Reno be delivered to Satan "for the cleansing of her soul".
Then they all sang "Onward Christian Soldiers".


I hate that song.

There was a pastor who recently got some publicity for praying that Obama would be killed.
 
I have a problem with one element of the research he talked about, with the sexual arousal thing: since then, the reliability of the plethysmograph has been seriously challenged, since there are more reactions than just arousal which can change the diameter of the penis. Fear is one, as is anxiety, and if all increases are counted as sexual arousal, then reactions which are virtually completely the opposite are being counted -- and there go the results.

This is out of order by the posts but I'm getting to everyone as I can...If you have read Bob Altemeyers book you would understand the psychology behind these kinds of leaders and their followers. I highly recommend his book...it can be read for free, or ordered for a nominal price, here:

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

Your point is taken about sexual arousal...I believe they use pupil dilation as an indication also...Altemeyer based it on behavior studies.

I agree, Blumenthal's delivery is very low key, not dynamic, however...after listening to him I realized he's not there to impress, or sell, he's there to impart information to those who are interested.

I knew about most of this, including the Air Force Academy...it's also true that these Dominionist church planters have used government money to build very large churches on many military bases. They are also the ones who insist on sending Bibles to Iraq and having our soldiers distribute them...it goes on and on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4091956.stm

This is the guy who has been leading the charge against this government funded abuse...Mikey Weinstein....
http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/
 
Maxpowr9...I can't read your cartoon...what does it say?

I found a good example of these people in action...

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/press-releases/audio_recordings.html

FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN "FATWAH" ISSUED AGAINST
LIVES OF MIKEY WEINSTEIN
AND REV. BARRY LYNN

Saturday, April 25, 2009

Listen to the "godly", former US Navy Chaplain
(and Air Force Academy graduate) Gordon Klingenschmitt pray
that Mikey Weinstein's and Rev. Barry Lynn's "days be few."

If you go to the link you can listen to this crap.
 
The hell they don't...they use imprecatory prayer all the time...ie...Imprecatory prayer is prayer asking God to kill, maim, curse, send into eternal damnation, or otherwise harm an enemy. It's called a curse by those who can think...I guess Christians are no different that Black Witches.

There's a brand of Christianity that does so. They're the people Jesus warned against when He spoke of people's love growing cold: their love is cold, but their hate is hot; they call evil good, and they see good as evil.

If we could get together a real ecumenical council of all Christians, those folks would be condemned as heretics so fast they wouldn't have time to get on their knees.
 
There's a brand of Christianity that does so. They're the people Jesus warned against when He spoke of people's love growing cold: their love is cold, but their hate is hot; they call evil good, and they see good as evil.

If we could get together a real ecumenical council of all Christians, those folks would be condemned as heretics so fast they wouldn't have time to get on their knees.

There is work being done to counteract the "steeplejacking" that the crazies have been busy with.

I get a lot of good information at this site.. http://www.talk2action.org/ they work hard at trying to bring the moderate Christians to the forefront...in my view there needs to be much more said by the moderate Christians to counteract these cultish, venal, creeps.
 
You consider factual information hateful? You consider a difference of opinion hateful? Where is information on the left on par with the hate spewed daily by the likes of Limbaugh and his cronies?



First of all, you are mixed up by your right wing talking points...when someone disagrees with policy it doesn't mean they hate (insert name) or that they side with (insert name). This is the kind of propaganda that has kept this conflict going so long.



Again, you are confused by the propaganda on the right that anyone who isn't as off the charts right wing is a pinko communist and uninformed. What, by the way does this have to do with the OP?




The hell they don't...they use imprecatory prayer all the time...ie...Imprecatory prayer is prayer asking God to kill, maim, curse, send into eternal damnation, or otherwise harm an enemy. It's called a curse by those who can think...I guess Christians are no different that Black Witches.

This is the same crap that Glenn Beck puts out. All Max B. and Glen B. are doing is playing to their bases -- fanatics. Selling books, movies, videos, etc.

Factual information? You must be kidding.
 
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