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Michael Jackson [merged]

Favorite Michael Jackson song?

  • Thriller

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Beat It

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Billie Jean

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Bad

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Smooth Criminal

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Black or White

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • You Are Not Alone

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rock With You

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Other (specify in a comment)

    Votes: 3 27.3%

  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .
Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

His appearance and demeanor were androgynous, and also ageless. Nobody really knows what to make of him.

Such is often the case with great artists who break new ground -- they're often odd and seen as deviant by mainstream society. I didn't care for the post-Thriller MJ, but now that he's dead, I'm seeing him in a different light. It'll be interesting to see what's written about him in 5 or 10 years.
 
Re: RIP michael jackson!

MJ died right after God granted Farrah her dying wish. You know what that wish was. That all the children of the world would be safe.


Damn that was horrible. Ya had to bring God into it huh? lol. Lets not forget that farrah cheated on her then husband, lee majors with his best friend of over 20 years, Ryan Oneill. Since God don't like ugly, maybe he didnt like that either.
 
Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

<<<<In the course of my investigations, I spoke to two of his gay lovers, one a Hollywood waiter, the other an aspiring actor. The waiter had remained friends, perhaps more, with the singer until his death last week. He had served Jackson at a restaurant, Jackson made his interest plain and the two slept together the following night. According to the waiter, Jackson fell in love.

The actor, who has been given solid but uninspiring film parts, saw Jackson in the middle of 2007. He told me they had spent nearly every night together during their affair – an easy claim to make, you might think. But this lover produced corroboration in the form of photographs of the two of them together, and a witness.

Other witnesses speak of strings of young men visiting his house at all hours, even in the period of his decline. Some stayed overnight.

When Jackson lived in Las Vegas, one of his closest aides told how he would sneak off to a ‘grungy, rat-infested’ motel – often dressed as a woman to disguise his identity – to meet a male construction worker he had fallen in love with.

>>>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...chael-Jackson-predicted-death-months-ago.html
 
Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

^Bet'cha $20 the sources are "anonymous."

Since when do we trust dailymail?
 
Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

So he settled in one case by paying $23 mil. That's not just a rumor, that's a fact. Nobody that's innocent is gonna pay somebody that kind of money just for not wanting the hassle of a trial. It's to stay the hell out of prison.
 
Re: was Michael Jackson gay ?

So he settled in one case by paying $23 mil. That's not just a rumor, that's a fact. Nobody that's innocent is gonna pay somebody that kind of money just for not wanting the hassle of a trial. It's to stay the hell out of prison.

Yeah, and only guilty wanna stay outta prison, innocent people don't mind a trip to the joint. :roll:

I sure wish I could live in your imaginary world where innocent people don't go to prison. :roll: :roll:
 
Re: Michael Jackson Traffic Melts Entire Internet

I've stopped watching the news because of the over saturation. I'd much rather hear about Farrah. She had a very painful death. Michael Jackson abused himself with drugs and, in the process, didn't respect himself or his body. I'm only interested what the autopsy results come up with. Farrah fought like hell to live. RIP, Farrah.
 
Re: [merged] Michael Jackson Dies at 50

Would someone please think of Bubbles?
 
Re: RIP michael jackson!

Damn that was horrible. Ya had to bring God into it huh? lol. Lets not forget that farrah cheated on her then husband, lee majors with his best friend of over 20 years, Ryan Oneill. Since God don't like ugly, maybe he didnt like that either.

Hmmmm, let me weigh this. Farrah cheating but ending up with Ryan O'Neil for over 20 years or Michael Jackson fucking a bunch of 8 year old boys? How could a person ever pick what is worse? lol. Farrah was a beautiful person. Michael was a drug taking pedophile freak. And anyone who says it's not true all I can say is "GROW UP!!!".
 
Re: RIP michael jackson!

Good lord, whether you liked his music or not, or believed he was innocent or not, can we keep some perspective here people? MICHAEL FUCKING JACKSON DIED! I refuse to believe there's anyone here who doesn't understand the enormous and indelible impact he made (and left forever) on pop music*, and especially on black entertainers breaking into the mainstream. Effects that are still rippling today. Even those who don't like his music understand this isn't a mere death. It's a severe rupture in pop culture's tectonic plates.

I spoke to my mother for hours after his death was announced (and we listened to his songs together) and like many baby boomers, she is appropriately shaken by the loss. Talking to her though was like experiencing his life as lived through his success in a flashback by someone old enough to remember all of it. She didn't take to the Jackson Five at first. There was a (now mercifully mostly forgotten, she'd like you to know) sub-genre of music in the late 60s called bubblegum -- The Archies' Sugar Sugar was the height/nadir of it -- and I Want You Back and ABC seemed to her just a black variation on it. "But," she whispered conspiratorially, "catchy pop music is easy to get stuck in your head" and by the time The Love You Save came along, she was enjoying it.

Throughout the 70s, Michael started striking out on his own, doing more and more ambitious stuff, and became clearly a major solo pop star. This alone would make him someone whose death today would be noted. But he had another, major leap in fame to make, and Thriller was it.

My own knowledge of pop-culture history, my mother's recounting, and wikipedia, all delineate two levels to the Thriller phenomenon. First, the album was released, and it sold very well -- but it wouldn't have right away qualified as industry legend. What happened to change that was, some months into the release, TV ran a Motown 25th anniversary special, which baby-boomers like my parents watched avidly. And, right near the end of the show, Michael came on and moonwalked to Billie Jean. "He killed!" my mum assured me with utter conviction and wistfulness. For a lot of (especially white) folks, this was the first time they'd viewed Jackson as some kind of major talent worth their notice. Thriller's sales soared thereafter; single after single hit the charts, and the album became the biggest ever, a distinction it still holds.

My mother remembers riding by the NY Museum of Natural History the night they were honoring the album's unprecedented sales. "It was a mob scene!" she recalls and she remembers a friend commented it was maybe the first time in the entertainment field that a black guy had become the undisputed biggest deal in the industry.

"I think I'd prefer to remember him that way," she said finally, and indeed the sentiment is easy to understand. The ugly accusations that followed (never proved but never really disbelieved, either) made his life probably not a very pleasant thing. In fact, I have to wonder how much of his life was ever enjoyable. We know he was robbed of his childhood, and reviled by many in adulthood. Did the artistic successes and fame balance all that out? (I've always found it appropriate that Elizabeth Taylor was such a close friend of his. She was one of the few alive who could empathize with every element of his experience: fame at a young age, massively bigger fame later on, and public rejection because of scandal)

And I must mention one other very important contribution from Michael Jackson to the world of pop-culture that my mother reminded me of (and one that's closer to my generation's cultural understanding of the star), and that's his videos. Specifically, "Beat It", "Billie Jean", and the 20 minute opus that is "Thriller". Without them, the Thriller album wouldn't have crossed over to the extent that it did... meaning: the white audience, which is ironic. And it had a symbiotic effect, raising MTV's stature and prominence in early 80s American pop culture as well, which is equally ironic. Both results are equally ironic because MTV initially refused to air Michael Jackson's videos because they wanted to stick to an all-white playlist.

That aside, the three videos were instrumental in elevating Jackson into a cultural phenomenom and an icon on the level of Frank Sinatra, Elvis, The Beatles and Madonna, in which effervescent image is part and parcel of the musical legend. Plus, the videos are just damn good videos and continue to hold up today.

Yoko Ono is probably thrilled today, but she has her reasons. Anyone else who is able to look beyond the media projected "freak show" he became - and yes, it is difficult - can recognize the artist and the figure he was. I assumed he'd be around somewhere in the background of my life for as long as I was around. There's something about icons that we take their mortality for granted.

What's the final word on Michael Jackson? Leave that to the historians. I'm just going to sit here humming Billie Jean, and fondly remember one of the singular talents of two generations.

(*I suggest anyone who didn't follow Jackson's music to go to Amazon and listen to some 30 second samples from a Greatest Hits collection. You'll be amazed at how many songs there are you didn't know you knew.)
R.I.P. Michael....But Dang That Was Alot To Read. You Really Spoke Your Mind.:rolleyes:
 
Re: Favorite Michael Jackson songs

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Re: RIP michael jackson!

Hmmmm, let me weigh this. Farrah cheating but ending up with Ryan O'Neil for over 20 years or Michael Jackson fucking a bunch of 8 year old boys? How could a person ever pick what is worse? lol. Farrah was a beautiful person. Michael was a drug taking pedophile freak. And anyone who says it's not true all I can say is "GROW UP!!!".

Once again the lack of supporting evidence. Other than the front cover of the National Enquirer, do you really have anything substantial to show us? We get it, you don't like Michael Jackson nor his music. If you're such a big Farrah fan, then why don't you just start your own thread on her?
 
Re: RIP michael jackson!

Once again the lack of supporting evidence. Other than the front cover of the National Enquirer, do you really have anything substantial to show us? We get it, you don't like Michael Jackson nor his music. If you're such a big Farrah fan, then why don't you just start your own thread on her?

You really think Michael wasn't up to some crazy shit? You don't find his behavior with children odd? How about that interview he did with the boy that slept in his bed? The pay outs? The mansion filled with rides and toys to attract children? You think the police made up the allegations that caused them to investigate several times? OJ was found innocent also. You gonna tell me he didn't do it? Guilty people are found innocent all the time. They can afford the best lawyers. Either you are really dumb or really blind.
 
Re: RIP michael jackson!

You really think Michael wasn't up to some crazy shit? You don't find his behavior with children odd?
He's eccentric but that doesn't necessarily make him a pedophile.
How about that interview he did with the boy that slept in his bed?
Inappropriate yes, but I wasn't in the bedroom, so I cannot make any assumptions. Furthermore, if he was really guilty, why would he even admit to having the boy in his bed. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to vehemently deny it?
The pay outs?
If the parents really believed their son was molested, why take the pay outs? And given the fact that the case was highly publicized, wouldn't it encourage other victims and victims' families to step forward and file charges as well (even if only for monetary compensation)?
The mansion filled with rides and toys to attract children?
So Disneyland is run by pedophiles huh?
Either you are really dumb or really blind.
I've got a Master's degree so no, I don't think I'm dumb.
 
Re: [merged] Michael Jackson Dies at 50

No offense to either of them. They were great at their jobs, and were just amazing.

But they are no Michael Jackson. I don't mean to offend anyone, but that is just truth.

It is plausible that someone wouldn't know who Farah Fawcett or Ed Mcmahon is. I didn't know Ed was, and still don't know what he did. But if you don't know who Michael Jackson is, you must have lived under a rock for your entire life.

I used the word 'priorities' in my post. I've thought of a better word:

Controversies

Michael and Perez are, admittedly, extremely controversial celebrities.

Farrah and Ed? Not so much. ;)
 
Re: [merged] Michael Jackson Dies at 50

I used the word 'priorities' in my post. I've thought of a better word:

Controversies

Michael and Perez are, admittedly, extremely controversial celebrities.

Farrah and Ed? Not so much. ;)
I'm still not sure either word is totally accurate. MJ has always been 'international', and by virtue of the net, Perez is 'international'. The two of them are of this generation/era and are far more recognisable to the users who dwell in Hot Topics and Celebrity News and Gossip. The likes of Ed and Farrah are of a different generation/era and virtually unknown to those same users. I don't think its specifically about priorities or controversies - surely its simply about global awareness within a specific social demographic?

If anything happened to Obama, we'd have an equally massive response. Is it about priorities, acheivements, controversies or simply that they are 'out there' on a global scale. Maybe its a little of each? Maybe these thoughts need a seperate thread. Mmmn. :D
 
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