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Michael Jackson [merged]

Favorite Michael Jackson song?

  • Thriller

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Beat It

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Billie Jean

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Bad

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Smooth Criminal

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Black or White

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • You Are Not Alone

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rock With You

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Other (specify in a comment)

    Votes: 3 27.3%

  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

Kenny Loggins - This Is It!



I'm in between you two (and not in a good way), although I'm leaning more towards Jasun. The CD did in fact flop. They overpressed, and it simply didn't sell as well as they hoped. Michael Jackson even held a press conference in which he blamed Sony for not supporting the CD enough, and hinted that race was to blame. As if that weren't enough, he surround himself (as usual) with children who turned their big eyes up to the cameras on cue, holding up their "Sony, stop killing Michael" signs.

Seriously. Ugh.

Were there songs on the CD that people liked? Sure. But I can say that about CDs that sold five hundred copies, too.

Lex
 
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

Well I'm glad we're not having opinions in this thread.

Sorry, but yes... I had to hear his last album. I was at that annoying Sony party and heard the whole disaster piece from start to finish and there wasn't a turd worth hearing on it.

Even the Sony people were embarrassed to play it.

but hey.. if you liked it, good for you.

Let's not forget that "U.G.L.Y." was also a mega hit over seas.

Funny I was at the launch party for the cd and even got him to sign a cd for me. The sony people seemed happy with the finished product. I have friends that used to be at epic sony and funny their storys are much different then yours. Oh but wait I forget, you know everything about everything. Silly me I forgot once again. :D
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Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

G-Lexington;5206371 I'm in between you two (and not in a good way) said:
Michael thought it was going to sell 100 million copies. Poor dear still lived in thriller-land. But the fact remains as to this day that cd has moved nine million units worldwide. I really wouldnt call that a flop. Would you?
 
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

Oh but wait I forget, you know everything about everything. Silly me I forgot once again. :D/QUOTE]

Well maybe spend less time defending pedophiles and maybe you'll remember the important stuff like I'm always right and other people should shut up and let me talk.:gogirl:

And remember he was proven innocent on ALL 13 counts. And jasun. If you were a parent and thought your child had been molested would your first call the police, or a lawyer to get money? Cause thats what happened in the 1st case. The 2nd case he was Innocent on all 13 counts, M'kay?

Oh and I got tickets to the wake on tuesday. Should be a madhouse, lol.
 
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

And jasun. If you were a parent and thought your child had been molested would your first call the police, or a lawyer to get money?

What I'd do is irrelevant. We live in a world where people have as many kids as they can so they can have a reality show. I've stopped trying to understand the things parents do, and that INCLUDES allowing them to hang out with creepy 40-year old pop stars and sleep over at their house. In their beds.

Oh and I got tickets to the wake on tuesday. Should be a madhouse, lol.

That many Michael Jackson fans in one place is call an "asylum."
 
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

What I'd do is irrelevant. We live in a world where people have as many kids as they can so they can have a reality show. I've stopped trying to understand the things parents do, and that INCLUDES allowing them to hang out with creepy 40-year old pop stars and sleep over at their house. In their beds.



That many Michael Jackson fans in one place is call an "asylum."

So your not a fan. I'm sure I wouldnt like some of the things you like. But that doesnt mean you have to come along 'in your jasun way' and take a dump on what others may enjoy.
Its clear your not a fan, so go make a thread on something you do like. Is there anything at all you like, is the question.
 
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

Invincible wasn't as good as his previous albums but I'd hardly call it a failure. It still went double platinum and sold relatively well in other countries outside the U.S.

I think everyone would agree that his early work is better than his newer stuff but that album wasn't really a fail. It still debuted at #1 and went platinum almost everywhere. Compared to his older work, yes it was a failure but in general it still did very well.

Pretty much EVERY music artist that lasted as long as he did are more praised for their older work.
 
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

So your not a fan. I'm sure I wouldnt like some of the things you like. But that doesnt mean you have to come along 'in your jasun way' and take a dump on what others may enjoy.
Its clear your not a fan, so go make a thread on something you do like. Is there anything at all you like, is the question.

I like to take a dump on what others may enjoy. Well that and gardening.
 
Re: Michael Jackson--When Is This Shit Gonna End?!!!!

I've always felt that almost all of the news media is just one great big tabloid with a reasonably respectable cover. All they really want to do is trash journalism but they have to pretend that it's relevant and important. When there's nothing like the MJ thing to "report" on, their boredom and depression is almost palpable through the screen and the print of the pages. Ordinary news is just too dull and too much like real work, I guess.
 
Re: Michael Jackson--When Is This Shit Gonna End?!!!!

Oh, this is just the beginning, sweets.

Wait until the autopsy toxicology results come in. Oh lord.

And then, the will and the custody fights.

And the property and the publishing rights.

And the debts.

Sigh....I'm glad my TV doesn't get reception right now.

I was talking to a couple of British friends of mine on Saturday, who were complaining about all of the Jackson coverage. They both dissolved into hysterics when I observed that all this 3-ring circus needs to complete it is for a group of his deranged fans to pull an Eva Peron and steal his corpse.
 
Re: Michael Jackson

Did anyone else laugh at this? :lol: Someone doesn't understand the pot/kettle phrase.
Maybe because someone like me understand it too well and sort of steal the share of understanding that certain other people should have :cool: :mrgreen:
 
Re: Michael Jackson

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Re: Michael Jackson

I was never a big fan of Michael Jackson... just never got into his music.

It sad that he died at a fairly young age, but like 'google' posted in another thread, I'm kinda over hearing about it now.
 
Re: Michael Jackson

^ MJ had been a corpse for several years, there's more than enough pictorial evidence of it: God just made it official a couple of weeks ago.
 
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

>>>Michael thought it was going to sell 100 million copies. Poor dear still lived in thriller-land. But the fact remains as to this day that cd has moved nine million units worldwide. I really wouldnt call that a flop. Would you?

Well, lemme answer the question with another one. There was a movie back in the 90s that grossed $140 million. Now certainly that couldn't be called a flop, could it? What if I then pointed out that the movie cost over $200 million to produce, and the promotion costs ran well into the eight figures? Now it doesn't sound like such a success.

Were Invincible a CD by a new or relatively unknown artist, yeah, nine million would be a runaway success. But for a Michael Jackson album, it's not too impressive. And it becomes much less so when you consider how long it took to record (four years), how much it cost to record (into the eight figure range) and how much promotional muscle was put behind it (despite Michael's claims, it was significant). Since "flop" has to do with finances only, I wouldn't hesitate to call it a flop.

And back to the music. I don't think Invincible is a bad album, really. But it's certainly a disappointing one. It sounds labored, forced, and extremely fussy. It ended up being an extremely expensive piece of studio craft, which ended up being nothing more than OK. In his last twelve years, Michael's output was one album plus one song ("One More Chance", which to me falls in the same category). He may not have permanently "lost it", but he seemed to certainly have lost his muse. Maybe he was on his way to regaining it, but I doubt it, and I doubt any "outtakes" that surface will settle the case one way or the other.

As a counterpoint, let me offer up the three CDs Prince put out in the middle of this decade - Musicology, 3121, and Planet Earth. No, none of them will make people forget his peak. But unlike Invincible, these CDs are a lot of fun. Not his best work, but still solid when it isn't good-to-great. They may have fell short of the nine-million mark (which I'll take your word for), but they all sold in the millions. Not only that, they weren't labored. They were fun casual affairs that didn't cost Prince much to produce, and didn't cost the labels much to promote. And they're still fun to listen to a few years down the road, to boot.

His latest one? Enh.

Hey, if you like Invincible, that's great - play it until you wear it out. But let's not do the "historical revisionism" thing that seems to happen whenever people die. Michael's successes were plentiful and duly impressive without having to resort to hyperbole. By trying to push Invincible up there with Thriller and Off the Wall, you're not only undercutting your own credibility, but you're harming Thriller and Off the Wall in the process. :)

Lex
 
Re: Michael Jackson. This Is It!

Am I the only one who thought that just a still picture of his face was the punch line to a joke about 9 days ago?

He didn't have an actual hit album since 1987 and in pretty much all the top 10 lists that people have been turning out the most recent song was maybe something from 1992.

I mean yeah.. he was talented. But he didn't turn out anything worth hearing after the career of Nirvana.
I think it is still what he did for music and art when he was in his prime than his later career. Despite whether his career died or not, that never took away his megastar status, no one ever thought he was a bad artist unless they just didn't like his music from the start.

He is called the King of Pop for a reason, and that has bearing on why he is still so important despite his later career.

What he did for music videos, MTV, the world really. When an American artist as weird as Michael can have a huge following in the Middle East and predominantly Muslim countries, that is really saying something.

But this is just my opinion. I don't really want to debate it.
 
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