Most People Don t Believe In Bisexuality

[Marco Sensual]

Straight people says that bi men only wants to have sex and they don t know what they want.

Gay men says bi men are gay men who don t accept themselfs.

Bisexuality don t exist.It s a temporary thing.If you are true with yourself you will choose the one you like the most.Most of the time men choose to be with men so they are gay.

I know 3 ex bi men that are gay today.They have their boyfriend.

RRRalph i disagree with a lot of things that you said in your previous post.Like others bi men you try too hard to distence yourself from being gay.It s clear that you don t want to admit that your gay.You were giving clues about that.Your gay pride thing,your most bi man prefer masculine gays,you said that you have 30% gay sex.

The ex bi men i know said the exact same things when they were thinking that they were bi men.They were not happy with gay men because in gay pride gay men you see are not representative of gay men.1 of the 3 said he was 30% gay,another 1 said he was 15% gay and the other said he was 5% gay.At the beginning they were saying they were straight.Some months after they were saying they were bi men.They had sex with men and women.It was like that for some years.They were saying they have sex with men only for sex and when it was the time to have a serious relasionship they were with women.They were acting like they were more straight than gay.When they were with their straight men friends they were acting straight but when it was time to have sex they act gay.They done it for a long time.

1 of them took 7 years to finally admit that he is gay,the other took 6 years to say that he is gay and the other took 3 years to say that he is gay.At the beginning they really believe that they were bi men and they try very hard to convinced themselfs that they were bi men.But with years they see what they really are.GAY

In the 80s elton john were saying he was a bi man.Not for his career but he was really believing that he was a bi man.The same thing with boy george.

Everybody knows that bi men lie to themselfs.Only because they think that being a bi man is more good because they have a straight side in them.So for them they are less not normal because they only have 1 gay part.For bi men it s better to be half gay than to be gay.This is ignorance.

The problem with bi men it s they don t like the word gay at all.They are not able to deal with it.Bi men very often believe the stereotypes that gay men are not masculine,men in leather,drag queens ect...

The so called bi men don t want to be linked to these stereotypes.They want to distence themselfs from them.

It s all about their insecurities.What is a man?If your gay are you a real man?Is it normal to be gay?Is it straight men that are real men?

All this things are in the way for the so called bi men to say that they are gay.Because of that they will not admit or even try to think the possibility that they could be gay.

Why it s so important to bi men to proof that they are masculine?

If only these bi men stop trying to proof to be what they are not.They give way too much attention for their manhood.

My man is a bodybuilder.He is masculine and he is gay.I m masculine.I m gay.Most gay men prefer masculine men.MOST GAY MEN ARE MASCULINE.

Keep in mind that you need stability to be in a serious relasionship.When your a bi man you are not stable because you have not make you choice yet.You can t marry a man and a woman.You have to choose the man or the woman.If you take your car to go somewhere you can t stop in the middle of the road because you will not be able to go who you want to go.It s not stable to do that.You have the choice to keep go foward at the place you want to go ( with men ) or you return at your house ( with women).This is stability.If your straight you are stable because you know for sure what you want.If you are gay you are stable because you know for sure what you want.If you said that you are a bi man you are not stable because you have not made your choice yet.

I understand why soilwork will never date a bi man.If you want to have sex with soilwork.If you want to make a threeway with a woman soilwork will not want to do it because he don t like women.He is gay so if you want to have a threeway with him it will be with a man.Most gay men don t want to date bi man because of that.You have the proof that gay men can t be with bi men.Bi men have to choose.

When bi men have sex with 3 women in 1 year and they have sex with 17 men in 1 year.They saying that they are bi men.They are not.Why it s so hard for the so called bi men to admit that they are gay.

I love men.Men it s my passion.I love beautiful men.I love bodybuilders.My first fantasy was jean claude van damme.I love men with muscles.We are romantic.We are monogamous.My man and me are happy.

RRRalph

If you try to be in a serious relasionship with a man it could works.You could be happy with the man of your life.You can t be with a woman only to be more accepted with straight people.

The ex bi men i know was often with women like women was a shield to protect themselfs from what they really are.They were thinking if they had sex with women they would pass as straight and be considered normal.When it s was too hard for them they finally admit that they are gay.

A lot of bi men will admit that they are gay when they will be older.They will regret it because they will see that being gay is not that hard after all.Maybe you are in the beginning of your so called bisexuality so you begins to discover your sexuality.If you are true with yourself eventually you will admit that you are gay.It depends on you if you accept to be gay or not.

Everybody knows that most of the so called bi men have sex with men most of the time.They prefer sex with men.They are gay but they are not aware of that yet.

I don t believe in bisexulity at all.

RRRalph

I know you will not agree with the things i said.You will saying what you are talking about,it s not true,bi man exist bla bla bla.BUT.

Bisexuality is the way before homosexuality.

You have the choice to take the most easy way bi man or you have the choice to take the most hard way gay man.

It s better to be happy being gay and not being accepted by straight people than being not happy being a bi man and be more accepted by straight people.

A lot of bi men act like they are better than gay men.They think they are better because they are suposeddly less gay.

RRRalph you can say all you want but it s true.If the ex bi men i know were lying about being bi men so all the bi men lie to themselfs only to feel more secure with themselfs.The ex bi men i know don t believe in bisexuality anymore.Before they admit that they are gay they were saying the same things that you try so hard to proof in your post.Today they are gay and happy with their men.It will be the same for you if you accept to be gay of course.

Don t take it the wrong way because it s not against you at all.

If the ex bi men i know are gay today it s because it s the same thing for the others.They were bi men before and even them admit that bi men don t exist because it s temporary.A lot of the so called bi men will admit that they are gay someday.

Theres nothing wrong being gay.

 

[bigfun81]

yeah I have friend who is an ex-bi (he just got married this week to a beautiful woman) I beleive in Bi-sexuality though, but you do make very good points, I know a few bi-gone-gay people too.

 

[hot tamales]

Wow...

I rarely feel the need to respond to these kinds of comments, so maybe I'm just overdue for a rant... I dunno...

I'm just going to speak for myself and say this:

Sure, the "Bisexuality is the way before homosexuality." comment surely holds true with a certain contingent on individuals. In fact, I would argue that a large contingent of homosexuals, before coming out, considered themselves 'bi-sexuals'.

And, for lack of interest in dissecting the rest of your alleged "facts", I will agree that, yes, there are some "bi-sexuals" that may seemingly consider themselves "better" because they are "less gay" or because they can become aroused by females. (Although the same can be said about homosexuals thinking they're better than bi-sexuals because they are able to be attracted to only one sex).

Whatever.

That's a low percentage of bi-sexuals from my experiences.

But I think it's THIS comment of yours that encapsulates the point of your post:

"I don't believe in bisexulity at all."

And that's fine. Most people, gay or straight -- in my experiences -- don't.

What you have to understand though, 'softmen', is that this is your OPINION; NOT fact.

There are a significant number of comments regarding bisexuality in your original post, but I can't help but refer to the original heading of your topic -- "Most People Don t Believe In Bisexuality" -- and ask: "How many people believed in homosexuality 5, 10 years ago"?

At the end of the day, though, I find this commentary a very bleak, shallow, poorly thought-out and narrow-minded view of bi-sexuals based on the opinion of a homosexual that stems specifically from the experiences and opinion of that said homosexual.

This lengthy opinion-piece seems to be direct a slight towards 'RRRalph', and he can respond to this as he wishes... but the bottom line is this:

There are a large number of individuals, both female and male, married, in-a-relationship and/or single, who are attracted to both the opposite and same sex, both emotionally and physically.

I fall into that category.

Whether you like it, or you don't like it; learn to love it: Bi-sexuals exist.

 

[hummer7979]

To me, the label "gay" implies not only a man's sexual attraction to other men, but also the capability or desire to have a serious intimate relationship.

I think there's a difference between close friendship and an intimate relationship. There's a certain emotional entitlement and obligation in a serious intimate relationship, and I think it's reasonable that some men, who may highly enjoy sex with other men, may not feel comfortable having that kind of emotional bond with another man. In other words, sex with your buddies is different than sex with your professed loved one.

And if you absolutely don't feel comfortable to have a serious intimate relationship with another man, then I don't think calling yourself "gay" is 100% accurate, at least according to what I feel "gay" means. It seems that perhaps "bisexual" is a vague term. I don't think it necessarily means that a person has the same exact types of attractions for each sex, though.

 

[SilverRRCloud]

Frankly, the matter of someone being bi-sexual is relevant only to that person and not to the rest of the world.

If a bi-guy is messing around with another male, he is homosexual for him. The fact that he also may sleep with women around is neither here nor there. A guy is either sucking on my dick or he is not. If he dives into the pussy at some other time is really his business and not mine.

If a bi-dude is messing around with a female, for her, he is her heterosexual male. Now, she may want to know and she may care about his other proclivities alright, but there is little she can really do about it. She may be as ignorant as anyone else and more likely than not, she indeed is... Otherwise she might be less inclined to put out in the first place.

...
On a level of possible emotional bonding, being bi may change many things. To some, this is an ultimate challenge, to the others it is a definite NOPE & NEVER, and to many in-between, it is 'hell, whatever'...

SC

 

[AresIncarnate]

I know 3 ex bi men that are gay today.They have their boyfriend.

Your three friends no doubt represent the rest of the world! Or, is it that you, as a gay individual, would have been more likely to make friends with gays in denial?

In the 80s elton john were saying he was a bi man.Not for his career but he was really believing that he was a bi man.The same thing with boy george.

Not for his career? Are you serious? Certainly his career was a factor. Choosing bisexuality before homosexuality is often an easier way to break a transition - especially if you're in the public spotlight.

Only because they think that being a bi man is more good because they have a straight side in them.So for them they are less not normal because they only have 1 gay part.For bi men it s better to be half gay than to be gay.This is ignorance.

And you just happen to be half right. Personally, I like being bisexual because I have both a straight side and a gay side. But I really don't look at it that way - I see it as more of a freedom which I'm allowing myself. Why should I have to limit myself because of your beliefs?

For the record, I've never seen myself as "normal" in any respect. I don't try to be like others, and if someone has a problem with me, they can piss off.

The problem with bi men it s they don t like the word gay at all.They are not able to deal with it.Bi men very often believe the stereotypes that gay men are not masculine,men in leather,drag queens ect...

News Flash - a lot of gay guys do follow the stereotypes (not all of course)

All this things are in the way for the so called bi men to say that they are gay.Because of that they will not admit or even try to think the possibility that they could be gay.

Ok, now this is REAL funny! I've said this before, and I'll say it again - I used to wholly identify as being gay! I had no attraction towards women for over 5 years.
Even when I first became attracted to women, I passed it off like I did when I first thought I was gay. I couldn't figure out why I liked to stare so damn much. Every day, I'm getting more and more attracted to women and less attracted to men.

Should I keep the gay label and pretend I'm not attracted to women so I can fit society's notion of a black and white sexuality?

Keep in mind that you need stability to be in a serious relasionship.When your a bi man you are not stable because you have not make you choice yet.

Yeah, because everyone definitely wants a serious relationship. I don't want a serious relationship because, sexuality aside, I doubt any man or woman can handle my personality.

But, the others will tell you how it is, in fact, possible to have a stable relationship with a bisexual individual. I believe them as well. It seems reasonable.

I understand why soilwork will never date a bi man.

Good for soilwork! If someone doesn't accept me for who I am, they can piss off.

When bi men have sex with 3 women in 1 year and they have sex with 17 men in 1 year.They saying that they are bi men.They are not.

LOL!! Are you serious?

If a straight guy has sex with even 1 guy BAM!!! Everyone says he's gay.

Have you not read the thousands of threads on here which use similar logic. Have you not noticed that damn near everyone on here has a tendency to automatically classify someone as gay?

I love men.

So do I. At least we have something in common.

A lot of bi men will admit that they are gay when they will be older.They will regret it because they will see that being gay is not that hard after all.Maybe you are in the beginning of your so called bisexuality so you begins to discover your sexuality.If you are true with yourself eventually you will admit that you are gay.It depends on you if you accept to be gay or not.

A lot of people really fall into this category. But don't be fooled into thinking that all bisexuals fall into this category.

You have the choice to take the most easy way bi man or you have the choice to take the most hard way gay man.

Well, the problem with bisexuality is this - most people don't believe it exists because they are too trained by a society with an incorrect notion of sexuality. Thus, an admittance of bisexuality is often viewed as homosexuality anyway. Except, instead of coming out as homosexual, you come out as a lying homosexual. Easy choice, eh?

Theres nothing wrong being gay.

Hey, what do you know! We agree on two things now! No, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay, and most posters on here will back me up!

Guys (and ladies), tell the man: is there anything wrong with being gay?

Bisexuality exists - I know it does. People just tend to move to one end or the other due to societal pressures. There's nothing wrong with being bisexual or homosexual and both are valid categories.

 

[AresIncarnate]

Let me clarify something quick:

In the 80's when Elton John identified as bisexual, bisexuality was viewed more positively. Today, however, I believe identifying as homosexual is often more positively viewed than bisexual.

It sounded like I was conflicting myself, but you have to remember that the publics view of homosexuality has drastically changed in the past 20 years.

 

[buzzj]

Yeah, I don't see that happening. LOL


*waits for Ralph to come on*

lol

Agreed, elvin1! Ralph makes a strong, cogent argument for his point of view! I believe he represents himself exactly as he is.

 

[Spiff]

I often wonder if the "bi" men that spend so much time here at JUB also spend equally or more time at straight forums chatting it up with girls.

 

[sonny10305]

I am so sick of this bullshit regarding Bisexuality

As a Bi man I can tell you:
I have always loved men
I have always loved woman
I have sex with men
I have sex with women

I can not, and would not if I could, explain why or how that is.
It just is!!

 

[Something Else]

I am going to chime in on this topic as it is not a private PM and it is on the BiSexual board--although, the OP seems to be requesting RRRalph to respond.

I think getting down to defining what IS Bisexuality is the heart of the matter.

If you believe that one homosexual experience equates into being gay for men, then isn't the converse of: one heterosexual experience for a gay man makes them straight also true?

If you subscribe to the notion of what MOST people believe is closer to the truth than not, then isn't the converse of: What MOST people believe homosexual men to be....[insert whatever stereotype here] then also true?

If you believe that "BiSexuals" should heed advice from "Homosexuals" about what is going on in their heads, what they're really feeling, and learn that they're just in a phase; then shouldn't the converse of "Homosexuals" should heed advice from "HeteroSexuals" about what is going on in their heads, what they're feeling, and what they're really thinking also true?

I'm just saying, logically speaking, how can one be true for one instance, yet not the other?

something to consider in the meantime, and in between time, of RRRalph's reply.

 

[AresIncarnate]

I often wonder if the "bi" men that spend so much time here at JUB also spend equally or more time at straight forums chatting it up with girls.

I've visited a few "straight forums" in my life, and I never saw a reason to go back. They didn't really have any real discussion regarding sexuality (such as this). It was simply a bunch of guys and guys pretending to be girls having cybersex.

Instead, I talk about sex at parties, bars, and among friends. The girls are real, the conversations are real, and it doesn't involve cyber sex.

JUB is different. It's hard to find such a large congregation of open minded individuals outside of the virtual realm. (At least for those of us who don't live on the coast)

By thinking that one should spend an equal amount of time on both types of forums, you're still trying to equate homosexuality to hetersexuality. As a gay individual, you should know that the associated lifestyle, stigma, and culture of the two are not polar opposites. The two are drastically different for a multitude of reasons; thus, comparison is meaningless.

 

[AmBi Dex]

This is just ridiculous. Well hell, most people are just plain stupid and pedestrian... like 95% limited.

They need lables, crave them.....and then get perplexed with these creations don't completely stick to everything. The wildness of eros gets reduced to "straight" and "gay"... ridiculous.

So funny coming from the "gay" community too. They're like the fundamentalist preachers! But is this so odd when you really think about it? The whole, femmed out drama queen routine... you see it much more in the churches. And in the church they can live in denial of something eating away at the label "straight"... free to emote and gush all under the guise of religion..... thundering louder and louder against that which is closest to them.

The ones that break free then take the same simplistic, paint-by-numbers, bassackward reckoning of the black and white fundamentalist nutjobs and deploy this "advanced" thinking everywhere else. It's like their allergic to grey areas ...and want everyone to affirm their idiotic categorization of nature.

It's literally a kind of religiosity in drag.

 

[tea123456]

no matter how many experiences you have had with bisexuals
if you are not bi yourself, you should not judge bisexuals.
its just like straight people judging gays as "sickness" or "phase", or not believing in the existence of "gay" and being ignorant.

any one else agree with me?

 

[tea123456]

seeing gays judging bisexuals reminds me of heterosexuals judging gays
assumption and ignorance exist in both situations

but who will the bi's judge? ...

i think its obvious all the bi members are angered by this
i mean, i dont think the gay members will feel very happy if people said that being gay is just a phase, and you will become straight if you play a lot of football and look at boobs all day

 

[DabboB]

Wow, what a lot of long-winded bullshit. I confess I gave up reading the first post after the first couple of paragraphs.

How can you POSSIBLY feel you have good reason to claim that "everybody knows that bi men lie to themselves"? You're one person, and you know of a few people who initially thought they were bi but eventually decided they weren't, and you generalise from there? Pathetic. There are people out there who genuinely like both guys and girls, and who are deeply offended by you claiming that one or other of their sets of attractions is just a product of their 'insecurities'. Live and let live. That, or just fuck off

 

[Candyapple]

After reading Softmen's recent thread in Hot Topics about how gay men who don't date non-white men are all racist and ignorant (although he admits that his own boyfriend is white), I didn't think I could ever read anything more stupid.

But...!! He's outdone himself, and posted a thread that's even more ridiculous, insulting and totally WRONG.

Rigr33: well said.

*Puts Softmen on her Ignore List*

 

[Marco Sensual]

rigr33 You got it all wrong.

Stop insulting me for no reasons.

I know 3 ex bi men that are gay today.They have their boyfriend.

once again you are going by 3 people which does not constitute all bi men, i mean come on we have thousands if not millions of bi men out there and you go with 3 bi men??? wththose 3 guys do not represent me, thus your argument theres is VOID

The 3 ex bi men are not the only ones to eventually will become gay sonner or latter.Theres a lot of them.You don t know all these so called bi men.You can t generalized by saying not all bi men will become gay.What do you know about that?You can t be sure of what you are saying.I don t generalize.I only said what most people says about the so called bi men.Most straight people and gay people don t believe in bisexuality.The only one who seems to believe in bisexuality is the bisexuals themselves.

RRRalph i disagree with a lot of things that you said in your previous post.Like others bi men you try too hard to distence yourself from being gay.It s clear that you don t want to admit that your gay.You were giving clues about that.Your gay pride thing,your most bi man prefer masculine gays,you said that you have 30% gay sex

it was hard to understand you here cause the use of commas would have come in reallly handy. Other bi men like me do not distance ourselves from being gay, we are not gay, we are bi so why should we try to be something we are not. Like myself, i have 98 percent straight friends not because i am distancing myself from gays but i have more in common with those people i hang with, plain and simple. FYI, i have found a lot of gay guys to be very standofish, mean and not much really in common with them apart from sex really. I bet there some neat gay guys out there but the few i have met gives the rest a bad name.

I m not surprise by what you said.A lot of bi men says that they don t have a lot in common with gay men and have more thing in common with straight.If really you were not trying to distance yourself from the gay men you would never said that you have more things in common with straights.Don t be afraid to have gay friends who are feminine and masculine.You can t say that you don t have things in common with gay because you think that gay men are less masculine than straights.When you say something like this you proof my point.You know the manhood thing that i talk about in this post.The 3 ex bi men also were saying that they have more things in common with straight.Today they are gay.

The ex bi men i know said the exact same things when they were thinking that they were bi men.They were not happy with gay men because in gay pride gay men you see are not representative of gay men.1 of the 3 said he was 30% gay,another 1 said he was 15% gay and the other said he was 5% gay.At the beginning they were saying they were straight.Some months after they were saying they were bi men.They had sex with men and women.It was like that for some years.They were saying they have sex with men only for sex and when it was the time to have a serious relasionship they were with women.They were acting like they were more straight than gay.When they were with their straight men friends they were acting straight but when it was time to have sex they act gay.They done it for a long time.


This is funny, cause once again, you are going by your 3 BI MEN, they do not constitute the whole darn world. I know of of a few gay guys that are not for gay pride neither cause they do not feel it represents them so its not only bi guys. Personally men running around halk naked or fully nude with makeups and other weird scenarios does not represent me neither. Thus, this opinion of yours my fellow jub member is VOID on 2 accounts as stated above.

I don t like gay pride either because what you see it s all stereotypes and it s not representative of gay men and it s not helping gay men because of that.When gay men don t like gay pride they would prefer that in gay pride most of the men be masculine.Unlike a lot of bi men that would prefer gay pride with all masculine men.Most gay men are masculine but even with that this is not a reason to ignore the feminine men.In gay pride most of the men should be masculine but some feminine also.Who is more open between you and me?I will not even answer that because i know really well who.Bi men distance themselves from feminine men the same way that straight men does.The 3 ex bi men were like that also.Why it s so important with bi men to be masculine?Once again you proof my point.

In the 80s elton john were saying he was a bi man.Not for his career but he was really believing that he was a bi man.The same thing with boy george.Everybody knows that bi men lie to themselfs.Only because they think that being a bi man is more good because they have a straight side in them.So for them they are less not normal because they only have 1 gay part.For bi men it s better to be half gay than to be gay.This is ignorance.The problem with bi men it s they don t like the word gay at all.They are not able to deal with it.Bi men very often believe the stereotypes that gay men are not masculine,men in leather,drag queens ect...The so called bi men don t want to be linked to these stereotypes.They want to distence themselfs from them.It s all about their insecurities.What is a man?If your gay are you a real man?Is it normal to be gay?Is it straight men that are real men?All this things are in the way for the so called bi men to say that they are gay.Because of that they will not admit or even try to think the possibility that they could be gay.Why it s so important to bi men to proof that they are masculine?If only these bi men stop trying to proof to be what they are not.They give way too much attention for their manhood.My man is a bodybuilder.He is masculine and he is gay.I m masculine.I m gay.Most gay men prefer masculine men.MOST GAY MEN ARE MASCULINE.


dont confuse gay men with bi men, elton john was probably gay but was in denial, it does not mean that elton john was the ultimate bi man example, by the way do you really know him, do you know whether he still has ltr with women on the side, do you really know whether he has an open relationship with his partner, you dont really know, this is pure speculation, what we do know for sure and on the surface he is with a man, i bet there are other male celebrities out there that are probably married to a woman and have sex with men to spice up their lives but will never come out and say it cause they do not want the world to judge them. YOU NEVER REALLY KNOW!!, do not assume. Are you a psychologist that you say everyone knows bi men lie to themselves, simple its because of how you feel to be gay that you think that bi men lie to themselves because you can never see your self with a woman so you come to that conclusion that they must be lieing to themselves. I say you are arrogant cause you seem to know what it feels like to be a bi guy. on your latter post , most of what you posted are your own insecurities about being gay, not a bi mans perspectives, being bi does not make me wanna hang out with str8 people cause i am ashamed to be asociated with gay people, i dont have much in common with the gay guys i have met so far. we will see what the future brings. yes yes , your opinion here is also VOID on many accounts cause some masculine GAY guys do not want tobe associated with fem guys or non masculine gay guys. Can you blame them cause maybe they have more in common with other masculine gay guys not necessarily that they hate the more effeminate ones or think they are abnormal. So these are all your insecurities not a bi mans perspective.

I m not arrogant.You misunderstood everything it s different.It looks like you never watch mtv or whatever the shows about singers career.If you would watch the show about elton john career you would know that they were talking about his sexuality.Elton john say it himself that he think that he was a bi man in the 80s.I don t have insecurities at all.I know who i am.I m gay.Unlike some i m able to say to people that i m gay.I m not afraid of what closed minded straight people will say.If a straight man said to me don t say that you are gay.I will say that i m gay louder for everybody to hear.I don t care about straight people who have problems with gay men.I m strong.I will keep make love with my man and be happy.More you talk more you make a fool of yourself.Once again you proof my point.

Keep in mind that you need stability to be in a serious relasionship.When your a bi man you are not stable because you have not make you choice yet.You can t marry a man and a woman.You have to choose the man or the woman.If you take your car to go somewhere you can t stop in the middle of the road because you will not be able to go who you want to go.It s not stable to do that.You have the choice to keep go foward at the place you want to go ( with men ) or you return at your house ( with women).This is stability.If your straight you are stable because you know for sure what you want.If you are gay you are stable because you know for sure what you want.If you said that you are a bi man you are not stable because you have not made your choice yet.


the context in which you use the word stability is wrong. So what are you saying, you are categorizing all bi men as unstable because you think that they do not know what they want as in either a man or woman? look anyone can be unstable, most bi guys or curious guys i know are pretty stable, some are married, some are in relationhips with their girlfriends or boyfriends and they like a little ltr on the side with men or women to spice things up. They are not confused. I enjoy the company of men and women, whoever i end with is the person i have the most connection with. I am pretty stable and when i am with my man its all about my man, if i am with my woman its all about my woman. ok, my question to you now is what about the thousands of gay guys that bed hop from bed to bed mostly looking for sex or end up alone. So would you say all gay guys are unstable becuase of this. this is an everybody situation, whether you are gay, bi transgendered, man or woman.Its a matter of knowing what you want and going for it. anyone can be confused, its not exclusive to only bi guys.

Stability is very important in a relationship.Even if straight and gay are not always stable they are clearly more stable than bi men.The 3 ex bi men were like it s was never enough for them to be in an open relationship.Even if it s not all the so called bi men that are like that.Bi men are more into open relationship than straight and gay.Don t say the opposite because you will got it wrong.AGAIN.We know some bi men and they talk about that very openly and the the way they talk it s like most bi men are like that.They just can t stop to have sex with men most of the time and women sometimes.They saying that they are bi men and even if they have a boyfriend or a girlfriend they will share sex often with other so called bi men.You are used to proof my point.

I understand why soilwork will never date a bi man.If you want to have sex with soilwork.If you want to make a threeway with a woman soilwork will not want to do it because he don t like women.He is gay so if you want to have a threeway with him it will be with a man.Most gay men don t want to date bi man because of that.You have the proof that gay men can t be with bi men.Bi men have to choose.


I wont even deem that with an answer cause WHO FUCKING CARES!! lol

You don t care because THRUTH SHOCKS.

When bi men have sex with 3 women in 1 year and they have sex with 17 men in 1 year.They saying that they are bi men.They are not.Why it s so hard for the so called bi men to admit that they are gay.THIS IS TRUE

I love men.Men it s my passion.I love beautiful men.I love bodybuilders.My first fantasy was jean claude van damme.I love men with muscles.We are romantic.We are monogamous.My man and me are happy.THIS IS VERY TRUE.



where do you get your stats from? what studies have you conducted? how many of your sex partners have you interviewded, pure imagination and speculation? your delusional mind is at work again. your latter post does not even correlate with the former, its more like you are trying to say gay sex is the best or something,. it does not make sense at all and why do keep mentioning you and your man are happy, ok we know you said that already just makes me doubt if you really have a man or a happy relationship mmmmmm is some one pulling our legs here? if you cant sleep with women dontt be mad stick with guys and let the guys that enjoy the best of both worlds florish in it. maybe you should try it, you never know you might like it. thus this is void cause what does jean claude van damme have to do with the topic? geeezzzz

I m not delusional at all.I only say what most people think.My man and me are happy.It s true.It s possible for gay men to be happy.The jean claude van damme thing was for showing that when i was a teen i was not afraid of telling to others that i liked his body and his movies.I was not afraid to tell that jean claude van damme was in my fantasy.In other words it s possible to say that you are gay without be ashamed of it.You see that it s not off topic.You see that it make perfect sense.Once again you know what i mean...

If you try to be in a serious relasionship with a man it could works.You could be happy with the man of your life.You can t be with a woman only to be more accepted with straight people.

The ex bi men i know was often with women like women was a shield to protect themselfs from what they really are.They were thinking if they had sex with women they would pass as straight and be considered normal.When it s was too hard for them they finally admit that they are gay.

A lot of bi men will admit that they are gay when they will be older.They will regret it because they will see that being gay is not that hard after all.Maybe you are in the beginning of your so called bisexuality so you begins to discover your sexuality.If you are true with yourself eventually you will admit that you are gay.It depends on you if you accept to be gay or not.

Everybody knows that most of the so called bi men have sex with men most of the time.They prefer sex with men.They are gay but they are not aware of that yet.

I don t believe in bisexulity at all.



I am trying not to be harsh but man you are making no darn sense, its really kinda almost uncomprehendible. Let me try, ok your last post says it all....YOU...thats it YOU dont believe in bisexuality, that does not mean it does not exist, let me give you an example, do you know that middle america believes that anyone that is gay should not be gay and that they are possessed by the devil or they need exorcism? are u aware of that? so to them it means that gods plan for you is to be a straight man and anything other than that is deviant so i guess we should all believe that being gay is not normal, They do not believe in homosexuality, just like how you do not believe in bisexuality. Its funny how you as a gay man do not want no one to judge you yet you seem to want to judge others. You have a lot of soul searching to do. you above post is void again because you are basing your insecurities again and again as a gay man not being accepted by society in the perspectives of a bi man. I am very true to myself and i will regret nothing cause i am fulfilling my dreams any other regular person. My dreamz is not only to have sex with people, i have other more important dreams like most americans i know which includes finding the right person either man or woman and other big achievemnets i do not choose to mention. If your basis for your dreams comprise having sex with tons of men and settling down with a man, then more power to you. i hope you do know that some people do not what to be in a relationship cause they choose to be with themselves, so i guess they all will die of regret. man you are delusional

Keep in mind that i m from montreal and i speak french.My english is not perfect and i type how i can.If you respond to this post it s because you understand what is wrote so...It s not about what i think it s about what most people think.If you don t believe it go in the streets and ask the question to people do you believe in bisexuality.You will see most people if they are legit with you they will say to you bisexuality is temporary,they are gay but don t want to admit it only to fit better with straights and a lot will say NO.Guess what.You proof my point again.

Lastly to summarize your misuse of space, do not speak for me, you are not the ambassador to for bi men, lol you can never ever be anyways cause you are gay. Everything you typed is pure speculation and a result of your delusional mind. If you are gay, glad for you, there are people who are bi and they are not lieing to themselves you are the one who is lieing because you are the type of gay man that thinks everyone is gay.What about the masculine gay guys that act like they are better than feminine gay guys or drag queens, so is it fair for you to say bi guys only? you are assumin assuming assuming.....i also know for sure that you secretly are obssesssing that bi men should all be gay and never sleep with women , cause pussy is ewww, right?

You really like to got it wrong.It s not about speculation,delusional or whatever you call it.It s what most straight people says and most gay people says.This post is about that.Most people don t believe in bisexuality.THAT S IT THAT S ALL.Theres nothing wrong with gay men who find pussy gross.

Man your whole post is VOID, i cant believe i wasted 30 mins responding to this. You seriously have to start worrying about your life dude and not bi mens lives cause thats kinda creepy correlates a lil bit to stalking someone. The next time you see a straight person judging you or your sexuality, do not be alarmed cause you are doing the exact same thing. Hypocrite!!

A so called bi man who dare to call a gay man hypocrite.This is funny.This post is not void at all.This post is true.I would never made a post that long if it was false.You have to accept it.It s not because that you don t agree with this post that this post is not right.The 3 ex bi men read this post and they agree with it.They told me if they were reading this post when they were the so called bi men that they will not agree with this post.Today they are gay and they agree with it.Even some straight people and gay people i know read it and they told that you are way too on the defensive.You persist too much.If you go in the streets and ask to people do you believe in gay men?Most people will say YES.Do you believe in straight people?They will say YES.Do you believe in bisexuality?Most people will say NO.

In this post i was not doing nothing wrong.Some misunderstood this post.

rigr33 attacked me for nothing.I was not insulting anyone.I only said what most people says about bisexuality.All people i know don t believe in bisexuality.The 3 ex bi men don t believe in bisexuality anymore.They are not the only ones that will eventually admit that they are gay.

Stop misunderstood everything in that post because it s nothing against you.

Maybe if rigr33 stop persist and calm down he will see that this post is accurate like most people think that it is accurate.

The way rigr33 act it s like if he will say that he is gay when he will be older.Or if he lie to himself he could never admit it.A lot of gay men will never admit that they are gay.They will act like they are straight or bi men.But they know theres a possibity that they could be gay.BUT.For some reasons they could never admit it.

 

[tea123456]

......*stares at the humongous post* im not even gonna read that
ok this is getting kind of annoying...
softmen, you are not "most people" or are you bisexual, so just stop judging the existence of bisexuals or saying what most people think.

and stop using the 3 ex-bi men to back up your point, there are billions and billions of bisexuals in this world....
its weird seeing a 28 year old adult trying to proof something with ignorance like teenagers, try proofing it with some valid evidence rather than your opinion

i suggest you just drop this, its pointless, its not making anyone happy, or have any purpose what so ever, all you are doing is making bi members on this forum angry.

 

[TriBi]

So to one biased person, the fact that they just happen to know 3 people who fit with their one eyed view establishes (to them) that their opinion is an incontrovertible fact.

I get so sick of this "gay bigotry" against bisexual people...