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Mueller Submits his Report.

mikey3000 said:
Do you me like how the liberals act now, not accepting their defeat?
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Liberals and democrats are the most hateful and un accepting people on this planet. I absolutely hated Obama and what he did to this country but I accepted the fact he was our president and gave him the respect he was due.. Not the same with democrats when it is not their person in office. Democrats hate this country and want to destroy it.
 
rareboy said:
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What does McConnell not want the public to see?
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The fact that democrats and republicans both colluded to keep Trump out of office as he is a outsider which is exactly what this country needed, not another political hack like Clinton or Obama or the rest of he democrat party.
 
When University of Southern California Gould School of Law professor Orin Kerr, who wrote, "Imagine if the Starr Report had been provided only to President Clinton's Attorney General, Janet Reno, who then read it privately and published a 4-page letter based on her private reading stating her conclusion that President Clinton committed no crimes." Here is Monica Lewinsky's response :=D: :=D:

https://start.att.net/news/read/cat...has_3_words_about_mueller_report_t-rnewsernor
 
azanallover said:
The fact that democrats and republicans both colluded to keep Trump out of office as he is a outsider which is exactly what this country needed, not another political hack like Clinton or Obama or the rest of he democrat party.
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Could you please explain what this has to do with a unanimous vote to release the report being blocked by one man who is desperate to hide the truth about Trump?

Trump is gloating all over the place. Do Americans not have the right to know what he's gloating about?
 
Even Andrew Napolitano, generally pretty reliably conservative and a frequent commentator on FOX, thinks that though they probably can't prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt, at least in the obstruction area there is something significant being hidden by Barr. Truth of the report probably lies in the middle...isn't devastating to Trump but raises a lot of questions about bounds of propriety to his behavior/that of his underlings and associates. When Ken Starr finished his report on Bill Clinton everything was out as fast as a drop of a hat. EVERY sordid detail as Monica Lewinsky pointed out on social media disgustedly today. But now Barr and the Republicans want to make sure sensitive stuff doesn't get released so they have to look through it...take a couple of weeks or so. NOT good enough. Get the report out now fully, with as few redactions as possible. Republicans are and always will be fucking hypocrites because they claim to love the Constitution but will spit on it whenever possible to keep things going their way.
 
gsdx said:
That is only as far as Trump Sr. is concerned. He's smart enough to cover his tracks and allow others to take the blame for him, and there were plenty of people willing and able to do that. That's why there were so many indictments and that's why some of his 'friends' (suckers?) are in prison for him. Just because no collusion between Trump and Russia in the election scandal doesn't mean he didn't orchestrate it, and for the same reason an orchestra cannot perform without a conductor, a crime 'family' cannot perform without a 'boss'. Don't forget how long it took to bring down Capone and Gotti. Gotti was the Teflon Don. Trump is the Teflon President. Gotti died in prison (actually, The United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners).

And just to remind you, New York is still working to bring down Trump and his family. And another reminder, Mueller did NOT exonerate Trump for obstruction of justice. That is still to be decided. (This means that his boasting and bragging was a lie.)

This is not over. Not in a long run.
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Or maybe Russia did it on their own because they wanted Trump to win and there was not this giant conspiracy everyone wants to think there is. Is it really that hard to believe Russia acted independently because of their own interests?
 
MystikWizard said:
Or maybe Russia did it on their own because they wanted Trump to win and there was not this giant conspiracy everyone wants to think there is. Is it really that hard to believe Russia acted independently because of their own interests?
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That is certainly possible but I don't totally believe that either.

My thought is a third possibility where Trump and crew were aware of Russia's actions and passively cooperated by not objecting, rather than actively reporting what they knew to law enforcement, which was their legal responsibility. Collusion by feigned ignorance, so to speak.
 
Or, since Trump has no problem with them releasing the report, maybe there is much more information incriminating other of the collusion. Oh, let's say, both Republicans AND Democrats tried buying information or what not on their opponents. That too is perfectly plausible, no?
 
mikey3000 said:
Or, since Trump has no problem with them releasing the report, maybe there is much more information incriminating other of the collusion. Oh, let's say, both Republicans AND Democrats tried buying information or what not on their opponents. That too is perfectly plausible, no?
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True. But it isn't Democrats preventing the release of the report, is it? Release the report. Let's see the information and hold accountable anyone who should be held accountable.
 
They lied about the purpose of the meeting at Trump Tower (adoptions...sure,lol) and were disappointed when the Russians had no info on Hillary. So they were sure willing to ally themselves with the Russians to screw Hillary. While the collusion case may not have gone further, I certainly agree it's likely they had enough of an inkling for a passive wink/nod... the whole report should come out without Barr's parsing..he was never going to go along with obstruction as per his writings condemning the scope of the Mueller investigation. Of course he wasn't going to press this any further. The Starr report in every lurid detail came out right away somehow against Bill Clinton...no way this report should take very long to be released.
 
My doubts regarding "no collusion" are all centered around the RNC's ONLY change to their platform in 2016 when they watered down the assistance to Ukraine. At that time Paul Manafort was involved in a financial orgy with pro Russian Ukrainian politicians. It just seems to me so unlikely that there wasn't collusion here.

I'd like to read the report for this one point of investigation.

However, we have a "Special Council" who reports to the AG rather than an "Independent Council" who would have reported to congress. This was a bipartisan change a while back. So, I don't know if we'll ever see the full report. Even though we paid for it.
 
No one knows what the report says besides the White house and the guys who wrote it. Which is pretty much proof that it's not good for Trump. If he was exonerated he'd be publishing it and giving it away on street corners.
 
TX-Beau said:
No one knows what the report says besides the White house and the guys who wrote it. Which is pretty much proof that it's not good for Trump. If he was exonerated he'd be publishing it and giving it away on street corners.
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yup..and selling signed copies on Ebay or his website for $1000 a pop
 
Barr made his choice to show the American people who he works for and it's Trump.

He won't be pressured out by the Senate Republicans because they're all in the tank for him, led by Miss Lindsey.... for the most part(except for the trade "populism" and his whacked out immigration policy)he's great for their bottom line. They'll take the crazy to get everything else.

Every day a new low... welcome to Trump's America, who knows if we'll survive a united country that much longer.
 
An utterly empty gesture by Mueller.

He gets to sound unhappy about how his report that effectively allowed TrumpCo. to walk free on conspiracy with the Russians is being presented by a man who was hired because he wrote an article on how the president couldn't commit obstruction.

He could have written his final report in such a way that Barr's equivocation would have been impossible.
 
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