My Sexuality.

[Soilwork]

I like a good fight.

 

[Piquechampion]

ARE KIDDING ME? ALL BISEXUAL MEN HAVE A FLUID SEXUAL ORIENTATION!! ALL!!! Just in case you miss that I’ll say it again. ALL BISEXUAL MEN HAVE A FLUID SEXUAL ORIENTATION!! ALL!! Not some, not a few, BUT ALL!!! Get it? Bisexuality = fluid sexual orientation.

Since caps are in order here: I AM A BISEXUAL GUY AND I DO NOT HAVE A FLUID SEXUALITY, I LIKE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, ALLWAYS HAVE AND ALLWAYS WILL. MY SEXUAL ATTRACTION TO BOTH GENDERS NEVER WANES, JUST IN CASE YOU MISS THAT ILL SAY IT AGAIN, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER WANES!!!!!

BTW, I do not look for guys just for sexual pleasure, in fact I do not like gay sex that much, for me to be able to have sexual relations with a guy, I have to have feelings for the guy. On the other hand, with women, I can fuck them and not have feelings for them at all. And I do enjoy sex with women way more than with guys.

It´s attitudes like yours that make bisexual guys wanna have LTR with women!!!

 

[ISpitAndSwallow]

Just like me in real life.

Funny and offensive.

Soilwork, I know this is off topic, but has anyone ever told you how hott you are?!?! Damn, dude, your hott!

 

[Soilwork]

It´s attitudes like yours that make bisexual guys wanna have LTR with women!!!

Alas, it's saying things like this...

On the other hand, with women, I can fuck them and not have feelings for them at all. And I do enjoy sex with women way more than with guys.

... that make us wish you would.

OH.. and spit/swallow.. um..

 

[Piquechampion]

Bi guy: I think you're hot.

Gay Guy: Would you like to go out to dinner with me?

Bi Guy: No, let's just fuck.

Gay Guy: You wanna go to a movie?

Bi Guy: No. I think you're hot and I want to have sex with you. But I'll never love you and I'd prefer if you didn't tell all my straight friends that I'd be seen with you.

Gay Guy: Sorry, I want more out of a relationship than sex. I dont' think I can go out with you.

Bi Guy: You're a bigot and have issues. You're a misogynist, you're self absorbed, you're neurotic, full of self loathing, vapid, self absorbed, emotionally damaged and hate all people who aren't like you.

That´s not me at all. I need to have the dinner, movies, time and shit to be able to enjoy or even have gay sex, otherwise, it just don´t go up. (And this coming from a guy who is from a very homophobic country).

I do agree with you though, that using gay men only for sexual gratification is cowardly and bad karma. If I were the gay side kick or the gf/wife of the bisexual guy who does that, he would be thrown away like yesterday´s trash!!!

But, for those uncompromising gay guys like yourself. If you had a relationship with a bi guy who truly loves you and wants to be with you, is it much to ask for a little understanding that he likes women also? it´s not like he´s gonna act on it or something, just a little understanding...

 

[Soilwork]

But, for those uncompromising gay guys like yourself. If you had a relationship with a bi guy who truly loves you and wants to be with you, is it much to ask for a little understanding that he likes women also? it´s not like he´s gonna act on it or something, just a little understanding...

To be totally honest, I dont' think I could get past it.

My short-coming.

First, I would be kinda grossed out... like dating a guy who's into scat even if he doesnt' expect you to take part. (MAN am I gonna catch it for that comparrison)

Second, I would never be able to trust him. Ever. My neurosis.

 

[trydegrau]

I don't get the point where bi guys are only with men for sex, I mean fuck...that applies to pretty much everyone I've met. 95% of people that seem interested in me, only want one thing. By the logic already presented in this thread, I should swear off gay men because many (IMO) only seem only interested in sex and not relationships... At the end of the day, it makes little difference if my (hypothetical) partner moves onto pussy or another dick, one way or another, they'll move onto someone/something else when they get bored.

I really don't get this retarded game where some gay men place themselves above bisexuals and some bisexual men place themselves above gay people...IT'S CALLED SELF-ESTEEM ISSUES. Whereby, one feels like shit, so they look for something they can put beneath them and feel better.

 

[hotdog1846]

so i need some opinions about what you guys would think about this. i think i'm probably bi.

as a young boy around ages 4 or 5, i watched wrestling faithfully with my family and was always turned on by it. then, i entered kindergarden, where i immediately started to like girls. i got back into wrestling a few years later without any sexual attatchments to it. i was dating lots of girls and was always turned on by them until the time of puberty, age 12 or 13, when i started to look at boys. with girls, i was more turned on by being emotionally close to them and loved to be in relationships with them. with guys, i more wanted just sex. i went through a few years where i thought i was gay, but then i got more into girls, dated some more. as of right now, i am in the boat of liking both gedners, really. i had a girlfriend not too long ago, but it didn't work out. i think i'm probably bi, but it's weird the way i kind of go through phases, isn't it? and the fact that mean are more sex objects and women are love objects?

i feel like i don't have a place in the world right now. any help?

Joey, I notice you haven't posted anything since starting this thread.

If you are genuinely interested in getting our input to your question -- what kind of sexualilty do I have -- you might do well to start a thread in the No Flame zone, like in the Health & Wellbeing forum, or Coming Out & Relationships.

Entertaining though this thread may be it's mostly veered off-topic into another of our debates about the wisdom of becoming sexually or romantically involved with bisexuals.

Sometimes guys start that debate on purpose, and you posed your original question in a way that *might* be construed to start a debate, but I'm assuming that wasn't really your intention. If it was -- carry on, gents...

 

[Theyoungman]

It isn't a choice.

You have to be sexually attracted to either men, women, or both.

All three possibilities are covered: Homo, Hetero, or Bi.

There isn't a (none of the above) category.

Think about it.

I said No. I won't be catagorize as either. I'll just be me by myself thank you.

 

[Piquechampion]

To be totally honest, I dont' think I could get past it.

My short-coming.

First, I would be kinda grossed out... like dating a guy who's into scat even if he doesnt' expect you to take part. (MAN am I gonna catch it for that comparrison)

Second, I would never be able to trust him. Ever. My neurosis.

I´m not into scat!!!!!!
Besides that´s disrespectful, comparing women to shit...
WOW

 

[Soilwork]

I didn't say you were into scat, Einstein, I was trying to explian how I'm turned off by women sexually. How it's my neurosis that I'd not be able to get past that. (and I KNEW if was a bad comparrison, and even said so)

It's kinda over-board, but I think you get the idea.

Or...welll.. no, you obviously don't.

 

[Piquechampion]

I didn't say you were into scat, Einstein, I was trying to explian how I'm turned off by women sexually. How it's my neurosis that I'd not be able to get past that. (and I KNEW if was a bad comparrison, and even said so)

It's kinda over-board, but I think you get the idea.

Or...welll.. no, you obviously don't.

Geez, someone is rude
I didn´t understand that, my native language is not english, you know.

 

[Soilwork]

someone is rude?

Aren't you the one who said "most gay men are just mean bitches?"

 

[Piquechampion]

Could you let it rest allready?
Besides, I think is worse comparing women to shit, than saying gay men are mean bitches.

 

[looseliam]

I'm out of popcorn. Anyone for peanuts??

 

[Hard Luck]

I don't get the point where bi guys are only with men for sex, I mean fuck...that applies to pretty much everyone I've met. 95% of people that seem interested in me, only want one thing. By the logic already presented in this thread, I should swear off gay men because many (IMO) only seem only interested in sex and not relationships... At the end of the day, it makes little difference if my (hypothetical) partner moves onto pussy or another dick, one way or another, they'll move onto someone/something else when they get bored.

I'm glad Soilwork has acknowledged his neurosis. This quote expresses the crux of it, as far as I'm concerned. The complaints Soilwork makes about bisexuals are far more commonly made about gay men in particular ... and, well, MEN in general.


And, yeah, I wonder what happened to O.P. Joey. Ah well, I assume a permanent fixture of the JUB message board is the bisexual misunderstanding / argument thread ... and this one will do nicely for now.

 

[blueto21]

That's odd, I don't recall stating that the argument was not valid.

Mocking an argument in order to prove its insignificance IS indirectly stating the argument is invalid. But you haven’t provided any evidence to the contrary of the argument and mocking an argument alone does not prove its falsity. So, we can’t believe you!!

If I had argued with you point by point would that have been better for you?

No, that would have made it better for YOU. At least you would have looked intelligent!!

 

[blueto21]

Since caps are in order here: I AM A BISEXUAL GUY AND I DO NOT HAVE A FLUID SEXUALITY, I LIKE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, ALLWAYS HAVE AND ALLWAYS WILL. MY SEXUAL ATTRACTION TO BOTH GENDERS NEVER WANES, JUST IN CASE YOU MISS THAT ILL SAY IT AGAIN, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER WANES!!!!!

Well, I think you need to take a long good look in the mirror and ask yourself, “Do I only want pussy or do I only want cock?”, and if you find yourself desiring both then that means you’re sexual orientation is fluid. BISEXUALITY= FLUID SEXUAL ORIENTATION!! Get it? Your mind wonders between the sexes over disparaging periods of time!!

BTW, I do not look for guys just for sexual pleasure, in fact I do not like gay sex that much, for me to be able to have sexual relations with a guy, I have to have feelings for the guy. On the other hand, with women, I can fuck them and not have feelings for them at all. And I do enjoy sex with women way more than with guys.

Well, I’m confused. You say you don’t look to guys for sexual pleasure but yet you are willing to have sexual relations with a guy if you felt you had feelings (and I am assuming sexual feelings as well) for that guy but you don’t like the idea of gay sex? You go on to say that you’d much rather prefer to have sex with females? Did I miss something here? I don’t understand why you would have sex with a guy while knowing you enjoy sex with females more and yet you don’t enjoy gay sex that much but you would be willing to have gay sex with a guy that you had feelings for (and I am assuming sexual feelings for as well) even though you’d much rather prefer to have sex with females and knowing you don’t like the idea of gay sex that much? Why would you do that? I don’t understand why anyone would do that!! I don’t understand why you would have sex with one partner while knowing you are more sexually attracted to another sex and then claim that you don’t like the type of sex that you would have with that one partner but then claim that you’d be willing to have sex with that one partner if you had feelings for that one partner? Do you see how confusing this is?

It´s attitudes like yours that make bisexual guys wanna have LTR with women!!!

Well, that is all the better for me. What makes you think I would even give bisexual men the privilege of having a shot at a LTR with me? I wouldn’t give them the luxury or the option so they need not apply!! The answer is HELL NO!! As, far as, I’m concerned they would be doing me a favor by going to females for LTR. Oh, by the way, aren’t you the same guy that claimed gay men are “mean bitches”? Why would you want to be with a gay guy if you think of him as a mean bitch? This makes no sense whatsoever!!

 

[dr_beat]

Well, that is all the better for me. What makes you think I would even give bisexual men the privilege of having a shot at a LTR with me? I wouldn’t give them the luxury or the option so they need not apply!! The answer is HELL NO!! As, far as, I’m concerned they would be doing me a favor by going to females for LTR. Oh, by the way, aren’t you the same guy that claimed gay men are “mean bitches”? Why would you want to be with a gay guy if you think of him as a mean bitch? This makes no sense whatsoever!!

So, having a shot at a relationship with you is a privilege, is it? My, aren't we full of ourselves.

 

[Theyoungman]

Whether or not you ever have sex with another person is not the point.

You are sexually attracted to either just men, just women, or both.

If, however, you're saying that you aren't sexually attracted to either gender, then why are you in a porn site?

I most certainly don't come here for porn. Most of the stuff here doesn't interest me at all.

I just come here for the forums... No more. No less.

And maybe i'm not attracted to either sex.... Maybe.