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My story---str8 friends and cruising

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Hi All
I've been lurking for a bit and see a lot of similarities in what I'm reading from some younger guys and my own situation...wanted to tell me story in case it gives some younger guys some help/ideas.

I'm 35, happily married and have two kids whom I adore. But since I was about 12 years old I have been grappling with my "sexuality" and asking some of the questions others are asking here - mostly about str8 friends, how you get them to play with you and so on.

My first encounter with another guy came when I was 12 and in a boarding school. A group of us played with each other in a "dare" game - we got naked, got hard and took turns jerking each other off. Nothing major, just some kids having fun. But someone told someone and next thing we were all hauled before the princpal and told that we were being unnatural and couldn't do that sort of thing (by then, though, the fantasy was well locked in my brain and was great solo material!) There was one particular guy I was friendly with, and we used to go to some deserted parts of the school in the afternoon and wank together - sometimes touching each other, but mostly just watching each other and getting turned on by it.

The next year I went off to another boarding school...a very sport-oriented one, and I'm not particularly sporty so I was a bit of an outsider. We used to sleep in big dormitories - about 16 guys in beds about 3 foot away from each other, with no privacy. There was a lot of late-night jacking off going on, but it wasn't really spoken about. Occasionally guys would call the others to come and watch, shine a torch on his boner and stroke like mad for everyone to see. But no-one touched. And then on Sunday afternoons we were allowed into the dorms to have an afternoon nap - sometimes guys would whip it out and stroke it while the others watched. It always made me feel kinda horny and I loved watching their tight balls bounce up and down.

One afternoon I went to the local mall and was feeling kinda horny, so I went into the toilets and the handicapped stall at the end. I took off all my clothes and sat there, buck naked stroking like mad. Just before I came I threw my head back, and saw an older guy watching me over the top of the stall wall - I got a huge fright and tried to cover up but by this stage was coming like mad. The guy said "have fun" and disappeared. And so began my love for being naked in public places, and being watched while I jack off. To this day I still do it in public toilets - if there're holes between the stalls for guys to watch through then so much the better. Sometimes if I'm feeling really horny I'll stick my dick through a glory hole and let someone play with it. But I always return to my wife - I like the sexual release with other guys, and the feeling of wanking with a stall door open and some hot guys watching while stroking themselves. But I don't want to wake up next to any of those guys - not for one day and certainly not for the rest of my life.

I also sometimes "cruise" in my local gym, and have one guy I met there and hook up with occasionally. He's hot, we don't speak much and I just go over to his house at pre-arranged times and we play around.....no strings attached.

And now to falling in love with str8 mates....At about the same time as the mall incident (aged 14) I met two guys who became my best friends, and still are to this day, some 21 years later. Since we met I have fantasised about wanking with them, but it has never happened. We've been naked together loads of times - initially at boarding school but since then at gym, camping trips, goofing around the house, skinny dipping etc. I've seen one of them hard (once by peeking up his shorts leg, and again when he was having sex with a girl in the hotel room we were sharing...lights were dim and he thought I was asleep....I wasn't and managed to get a good peek at his throbbing cock). They're both hot as hell and have gorgeous dicks. And, I think, very straight although we have intense physical non-sexual relationships
with lots of touching and hugging.

And then there's the third friend I am in love with.

We met at University and became instant friends. He's dead cute too, with a small, tight butt and gorgeous cut cock. I've also seen him naked loads and, one night after a few too many beers, we went for a skinny dip in the sea. Afterwards we were sitting on the beach, he turned to me and asked if I'd like to suck him. Hell yeah, I did. And so I did. The feeling of his soft cock growing slowly hard in my mouth and then sliding it in and out is a memory I'll keep with me forever. He then sucked me a bit, but I could tell wasn't really into it...he was just doing it to be nice. Since then we've remained good friends, and sometimes laugh about our encounter. Might it happen again? I think so....he's also married with two kids but we're still close and there's something special between us.

But with all three of these friends there's one thing that is the most important, and that is the friendship. Although there is a sexual buzz between us I've only acted on it with one of them, and it turned out ok. But I don't want to do anything to jeapordise the friendship and so will only act on it with the others if they initiate it. Maybe I'm depriving myself of something awesome, but the friendships are awesome too and I don't want to lose them or introduce some distance between us.

so my advice to anyone "in love" or "in lust" with a str8 mate, be very very careful. Cherish the friendship, trust and love each other and maybe something more will come of it. And if it doesn't, there are plenty more fish in the sea. At the very least you'll get some naked glimpses that will feed your fantasies, but only if they trust you.

Am I gay? Maybe. Am I bi? Possibly. Am I deluding myself? No, I don't think so. I have a great family and sometimes engage in discrete encounters with other guys. As long as I'm careful and they remain discrete I think things will be ok.

Comments welcome....
 
Hey, Beebza, great post and greater message. Don't let some of these creeps that give comments (really putdowns) tell you otherwise.
 
Uh, you're cheating. Not fair to your wife...not fair to your kids. And don't try gift-wrap your post as "advice"...you're grand-standing. I don't believe in marriage, but if you commit to it, stick to it you selfish asshole.
 
well mate been there done that except my best mate is now my partner... i think its virtually impossible to be married and ignore those feelings . like yourself i was married and have a child and dabbled occasionally with other men until one man became more than sex and someone i wanted to be with. so the more you play the greater the risk of turning your life and others around you upside down. . . just be aware of the path your heading down .. ignore any negative comment about your situation from other posts , you explained your history well , alot of circumstances place us were we are today...
 
I think you might need to reassess your sexuality, especially since you are married.
 
Thanks for sharing your experiences.

I'm not judging you. I often imagine what my life would have been like had I gone the married with children route.

Only you know what path is best for you.

Good luck.
 
Just another Down-Low case trying to convince himself that he loves women.
Then again, if my friends were homophobes, I don't doubt for a second that I'd eventually be in your position as well.
That and you sound like you're hot as well, which does mean that people place expectations on you as a jock with idiots for friends.
Sucks to be you!
 
Hi
Thanks all for your comments....some responses:

@Dazza: Actually i do love women. My wife and I have a very healthy sex life and she turns me on a lot. She is the one I want to be with forever. My explorations with guys are largely non-emotional releases....and it doesn't really suck being me, although it would be nice if life were a bit more cut and dried. And my friends aren't homophobes - in fact in our circle of close friends there are two openly gay guys and everyone accepts their choices and lifestyle. it's just not an issue for us. My parents, on the other hand, are probably more the reason why I opted for the conventional "straight" lifestyle over anything else.

@JNewYork: And I've often wondered what my life would have been like had I decided to come out and pursue relationships with guys. On balance I think I'm happier the way things are.

@Room5 and Slippery: thanks for your supportive comments

@IluvBrent: I do. Constantly

@theboywithblueshoes: Trust me, there's no insult you can throw at me that I haven't thrown at myself in my darkest, lowest moments. Yes, I may be a selfish asshole...but I've made the choice I have and I'm sticking to it. I think leaving two kids to grow up without their father and leaving my wife alone so that I can go off and shag men all over the place would be more selfish...turning their lives upside down so I can be "free" would be 100% selfish. I can't un-make the choices I've made this far, all I can do is make the best choices from here on out. Yes, the best choice would be to stop playing with guys and remain faithful to my wife. And if I could turn the impulse off then I would in a nanosecond. It's not that easy, unfortunately. And I do constantly reign in my desires to protect my family. Probably not enough to measure up to someone as saint-like as you, but then we can't all be perfect.
 
Oh, then you're definitely bisexual.
Just because you don't feel any emotional attachment to the guys you do stuff with doesn't mean you're straight (or 99.99% straight if that's how you like to think about it).
If you feel a sexual connection with guys and girls (regardless of who you feel emotionally connected with), then you're bi.
Still, whatever floats your boat.
 
Dazza: Yeah, I've pretty much accepted that I'm Bi, and am ok with it. Amazing, though, how many gay guys are adamant that bi guys are just afraid to admit they're gay, as if it is somehow an excuse or halfway measure. They battle to understand that some guys genuinely enjoy sex with men and with women, and can get turned on by both.
 
hi thanks for sharing your story....it was hot! I have this online friend that is married one child he says he never fools around phyisically with other guys. He does have profile on few gay sites looks at pics porn and has phone sex/ web cam fun with me. I know it is secret no one knows. I have respect for him and how he lives his life it's a risk his wife could find out.

I don't really get why married men would fool around on down low. But I do understand how it is hard to control our desires and thoughts....I respect who you are thanks for sharing your story...I wish you and your family well!
 
Okay first off it sounds as if you are bisexual instead of full on gay.

Second you now have three others you MUST consider before any DL. You married this woman and proceeded to father two children with her. Think about them before you need to get off with another man. Sorry it may sound harsh but it is what it is.

Now think how it would feel if you wife was screwing around on the side with out you knowing. And not well if she can or is doing it why can't I.

You should talk to her about this if you cannot seem to control these feelings. There is far more likely-hood of massive damage to everyone involved if somehow this got back to her or one of your kids.

Hate to be the kill joy here, but there are things that really need to be considered.
 
Dazza: Yeah, I've pretty much accepted that I'm Bi, and am ok with it. Amazing, though, how many gay guys are adamant that bi guys are just afraid to admit they're gay, as if it is somehow an excuse or halfway measure. They battle to understand that some guys genuinely enjoy sex with men and with women, and can get turned on by both.

Well that's because most times it's true.

In you're case though you sound like a true bisexual. I liked you're stories and though I'm not too big on you being unfaithful to your wife I'm glad you shared your personal experiences with us.

Some of them sound pretty hot and you sound like you'd be a hot guy. :)

Just be careful though and remember, these feelings won't go away. Years from now you might discover that you actually are gay and things might change but who knows?
 
Beebza, I truly understand you. I am totally bisexual myself and also married. I also have a wife and children and have decided to stay faithful to the family. Your responses to some replies sent to you shows the similarity of where we find ourselves. Family first and foremost. You have a wife who has invested a lot being married to you and children that have no fault about your situation. Hang in there...it will be all be worth it. There will be times that it will be very difficult and you may encounter a guy here and there but be safe. Remember, you do not want to leave your children orfans. It is a very hard situation. I do not know your religion but remember we all have crosses to bear and I am sure this is our cross; a hard cross yet joyous as well. Focus on the children and your wife and being happy where you are. Like you said, there will be not an ass or cock (no matter how hot they are) worth turning the lives trusted to you upside down.
 
Interesting story - not sure how I missed it the first time around.

I agree - you sound bi to me. Like some of the others, I'm not sure I agree with your rationalisation about non-emotional release. I mean, if you were getting a non-emotional release from another woman, it would still be sketchy and smack largely of cheating, in my opinion.

To each his own - I try not to judge, and don't always succeed! Still, if nothing else, hope we hear more from you on the forums.

Ek woon ook in Kaapstad - ek se^ maar net; dit is altyd lekker om nog 'n Kaapenaar hier te sien.

-d-
 
I was thinking about this thread earlier today and I have a new view on it.

It's not right. I mean, if you are married to someone you need to be committed to them. It doesn't matter if you're bisexual. You made the decision to get married and it's not fair to your wife or kids that you're cheating on her with men . You say it wouldn't be fair to end the relationship because she'd be alone, well this isn't any better to be living this double life and playing her for a fool.

I don't know you but if you have these feelings, they're not going to go away. Are you going to live out the rest of your life cheating on your wife with men?

I don't understand why bi or gay men get married. They're just hurting themselves and everyone one around them.

Also sounds to me like you're not being true to yourself. Doesn't sound to me like you want to be with your wife because you want to, but because you want to live a normal, straight life style and please your parents.

Sorry but this is wrong.
 
I don't understand why bi or gay men get married. They're just hurting themselves and everyone one around them.

Your issue is not with gay or bisexual men; your issue is with men who cannot remain monogamous. There are plenty of people, men and women, who get married, have same-sex attractions, and have no issue remaing faithful.
 
I think its wrong that your going behind her back and doing this stuff with other men. It would upset her so much if she ever found out. Not to sound harsh, but you are married. You made a commitment when you married her to be faithful. You have not been faithful so you might as well just spit in her face. Sorry to sound mean, but its true. If you are unhappy enough to cheat, then why are you with your wife? It sounds like your just making excuses that its ok, but do you think your wife will accept these excuses?
 
If I'm committed to someone I think I'd be so filled with guilt if I cheated.

I don't understand how the OP came to terms with this and figured it was just something he's going to continue doing and that it's OK. Don't you feel guilt??
 
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