The Original Gay Porn Community - Free Gay Movies and Photos, Gay Porn Site Reviews and Adult Gay Forums

  • Welcome To Just Us Boys - The World's Largest Gay Message Board Community

    In order to comply with recent US Supreme Court rulings regarding adult content, we will be making changes in the future to require that you log into your account to view adult content on the site.
    If you do not have an account, please register.
    REGISTER HERE - 100% FREE / We Will Never Sell Your Info

    To register, turn off your VPN; you can re-enable the VPN after registration. You must maintain an active email address on your account: disposable email addresses cannot be used to register.

Native American PWNS immigration protest

BUT X-rays, insulin, penicillin, and aspirin were all developed PRIOR TO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. Even now when those countries research, they do it with the knowledge that they can hope to recoup their investment by selling into to huge US market without government price controls. Those corporation heads must be lying awake at night worrying about the catastrophy which has befallen America and the world. Where will they do without us?

- - - Updated - - -

BUT X-rays, insulin, penicillin, and aspirin were all developed PRIOR TO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. Even now when those countries research, they do it with the knowledge that they can hope to recoup their investment by selling into to huge US market without government price controls. Those corporation heads must be lying awake at night worrying about the catastrophy which has befallen America and the world. Where will they do without us?
 
Well, rareboy, your objection is not well taken. Scroll through this or any other thread and try to find a liberal post which does not contain an personal insult against the Conservative members. No big deal. I don't respect them enough to care about their insults.
 
star-warrior said:
Truth is, in the UK, the only really historically native peoples are probably the descendents of the Celts, driven to Wales, Scotland and the more further recesses of our country.
Click to expand...
The 'Celts' were johnny-come-latelys to this island ... they only came here a couple of thousand years ago ... this place was already inhabited long before they arrived.

Personally, I think the successive waves of immigration during the past few millenia is probably one of the best things to have happened to Britain.
 
HoodedRat said:
The 'Celts' were johnny-come-latelys to this island ... they only came here a couple of thousand years ago ... this place was already inhabited long before they arrived.

Personally, I think the successive waves of immigration during the past few millenia is probably one of the best things to have happened to Britain.
Click to expand...
I cannot agree. The Anglo Saxon invasion was a catastrophe for the Celtic/Roman Britons. Vikings killed and plundered many thousands. The Norman Conquest was one of the worst things ever to befall a people. Now immigration .....
The Celtic invasion was probably as hard on the prior Neolithic people, but no one kept a record.
 
Benvolio said:
I cannot agree. The Anglo Saxon invasion was a catastrophe for the Celtic/Roman Britons. Vikings killed and plundered many thousands. The Norman Conquest was one of the worst things ever to befall a people. Now immigration .....
The Celtic invasion was probably as hard on the prior Neolithic people, but no one kept a record.
Click to expand...

Don't worry, benvolio, he's just saying that because he's one of them. It's to be expected.
 
xbuzzerx said:
Benvolio, you've never demonstrated through anything other than your say-so that a protectionist, isolationist seal the borders approach would help the lower classes in the country. There's plenty of evidence it would seriously hurt the economy, and virtually no proof it would help it. You say it over and over expecting people to accept your say-so on the matter.
Click to expand...

Maybe he keeps repeating the same lie over and over in hopes that it eventually becomes the truth?

Speaking of truth, the guy in that video gave all those bitches a nice big slice of bitter truth. Preach it, my Native American brother!
 
Benvolio said:
BUT X-rays, insulin, penicillin, and aspirin were all developed PRIOR TO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. Even now when those countries research, they do it with the knowledge that they can hope to recoup their investment by selling into to huge US market without government price controls. Those corporation heads must be lying awake at night worrying about the catastrophy which has befallen America and the world. Where will they do without us?

- - - Updated - - -

BUT X-rays, insulin, penicillin, and aspirin were all developed PRIOR TO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. Even now when those countries research, they do it with the knowledge that they can hope to recoup their investment by selling into to huge US market without government price controls. Those corporation heads must be lying awake at night worrying about the catastrophy which has befallen America and the world. Where will they do without us?
Click to expand...

Bullshit.

Last I checked, Canada, France, Germany and Holland and Britain as well as Japan all have socialized medicine and the medical devices and drugs and everything just keep coming. Siemens, Phillips, Toshiba and Samsung among others sell more across Europe and Asia than they do to the US. It is the universal health care approach that has helped support the innovation in the industries.

The reason your argument is total bullshit is that it is actually socialized medicine that built the strength of these companies. Without the entire populations of many nations having access to the drugs and technology, the companies that produce them would have a very, very tiny market indeed. You are ignorant of how the rest of the world works...that much is always nakedly evident. You really should stop embarrassing yourself. Really.
 
Benvolio said:
Well, rareboy, your objection is not well taken. Scroll through this or any other thread and try to find a liberal post which does not contain an personal insult against the Conservative members. No big deal. I don't respect them enough to care about their insults.
Click to expand...

I could care less how you take my objections. You continue to present bullshit arguments and claims....never backed up by sources.....you continue to hammer away at all of us with your barely disguised racist and xenophobic jingoism in thread after thread. and then expect otherwise.

But tell me where I personally insulted you.

And stop trying to derail the thread.
 
Wow Benvolio has a friend who can search the internets and find opinions to post... yay
 
Nonsense, I have often given sources. But if the source does not agree with you, you brush it aside. So why bother. The basic facts are indisputable. If you have too many poor people, then import millions more, then you have more poor people than before.
 
Benvolio it is clear you are neither an economist nor even a capitalist. "Too many poor people" is another way of saying "under utilised mismanaged human resource opportunity." If you can't see how to profitably invest in that resource, for mutual benefit, then you'd not make it as a manager either. This is an opportunity that can be spotted after even an introductory Economics 101 course.

In fact the arguments you present were generally only heard from 1970's trade unionists, whose moment in the sun fighting for adequate working conditions had long passed, and when they had nothing left to do but cling to relevance by spewing populist protectionist economic claptrap.

If you do decide to do some remedial studies of economics, I suggest you begin with the "Lump of Labour Fallacy."
 
At one time, the poor might have been a resource, but with high employment burdens in the US, new technologies, and high foreign competition, it is no longer a realistic view. It certainly cannot justify the massive importation of new "Resources",far faster than we can find jobs for our own people.
 
rareboy said:
I could care less how you take my objections. You continue to present bullshit arguments and claims....never backed up by sources.....you continue to hammer away at all of us with your barely disguised racist and xenophobic jingoism in thread after thread. and then expect otherwise.

But tell me where I personally insulted you.

And stop trying to derail the thread.
Click to expand...

Your invariably rude posts are insulting and intended by you to be so. It should be obvious that I am indifferent to liberal insults or I would not be here. But you are hardly in the position to take high ground on insults.
 
Benvolio said:
At one time, the poor might have been a resource, but with high employment burdens in the US, new technologies, and high foreign competition, it is no longer a realistic view. It certainly cannot justify the massive importation of new "Resources",far faster than we can find jobs for our own people.
Click to expand...

True, if we send 12 million people back where they came from a lot of jobs will become available. Of course, some people might have to start mowing their own yards again.
 
Benvolio said:
Your invariably rude posts are insulting and intended by you to be so. It should be obvious that I am indifferent to liberal insults or I would not be here. But you are hardly in the position to take high ground on insults.
Click to expand...

And most of your positions and posts are an affront to human values and decency as well as common sense and logic most of the time....so I guess that evens us all up, doesn't it?

We get it. You don't like brown immigrants from anywhere. They are going to change the complexion of your country quite literally.
 
Also, which fallacy is "I provide sources, but you never accept them when they don't say what you want"? Because, Benvolio, that is factually incorrect. You ONLY EVER provide sources from rabid right wing places, and those are unacceptable, and you know it. Same way as you don't accept - nor should accept - rabid left wing sources. But there is a big group of semi-neutral and more centrist places that you can cite. Except, you can't, because you never go to those.
 
Nice theory but it won't wash. Liberals are so bigoted on the question of immigration and other subjects, that any source negative on immigration is certain to be labeled far right, racist, xenophobic etc.
 
Benvolio said:
Nice theory but it won't wash. Liberals are so bigoted on the question of immigration and other subjects, that any source negative on immigration is certain to be labeled far right, racist, xenophobic etc.
Click to expand...

"Bigoted"? Against whom?
 
HenryReardon said:
True, if we send 12 million people back where they came from a lot of jobs will become available. Of course, some people might have to start mowing their own yards again.
Click to expand...

Of course, and some people might not have doctors, nurses, physicists, architects, mathematicians that the country has a shortage of. Go to your local hospital and see how many foreign doctors are on staff. There's a huge shortage of health care professionals and these "immigrants" are filling a desperate need.

Because the right wing republicans are slashing education funding so the millionaires and billionaires can have more money to hide in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland, Americans aren't educating and training professionals like they should. It's a generation of fast food service workers.
 
The 12 millions are illegals. Not too many Doctors, we assume. I have always said we should allow doctors, nurses and scientists. We probably cannot send back all the illegals and perhaps should not try. But we should not reward them with citizenship until we stop the flood.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top