New CPAC Chair says no to groups that support DADT repeal or marriage

[rareboy]

Just in case some of our friends here miss this in Hot Topics.

http://gay.americablog.com/2011/02/new-cpac-chair-says-no-to-groups-that.html

Obviously CPAC sees no chance of rapprochement on Homo issues.

Does this mean than LCR and GoProud will get a little tent away from the big tent or do they have to finally fold theri tents, go back into the closet and try to pass for straight at future white, reactionary gang bangs?

Oh Yeah. Megan Mcain and Barbara Bush are going to be the face of the Repubs. I forgot.

 

[Kulindahr]

GOProud should start a different convention -- a Goldwater Oldstyle rePublicans PAC

 

[BostonPirate]

what I thought it was Bachmann's Job to run the second half of the republican party... Now a third gay wing? What will the party favors be?

lol

 

[BostonPirate]

And when THAT fails, and the GOP STILL treats the GLBT community like shit, THEN what?

How many times do we have to try in vain to gain admission to that mythical "Big Tent" before some of us finally see the truth?

There has never been room in the GOP for Gays. They have not been indirect. They have been straight and forthcoming on what they think of us.

 

[PSCGuy]

This is the fallacy of GOProud and, to a lesser extent, Log Cabin Republicans. You can be a gay conservative as easily as you can be a gay liberal.

However, the VAST majority of conservatives do NOT believe in gay rights. It's just how it is. If you want to treat liberals and conservatives as somehow equal on gay rights, you are just lying to yourself.

 

[Kulindahr]

This is the fallacy of GOProud and, to a lesser extent, Log Cabin Republicans. You can be a gay conservative as easily as you can be a gay liberal.

However, the VAST majority of conservatives do NOT believe in gay rights. It's just how it is. If you want to treat liberals and conservatives as somehow equal on gay rights, you are just lying to yourself.

One more reason we need a system that would allow multiple parties.

Political ones, that is, of course. We probably don't have a shortage of the other kind.

 

[rareboy]

When? Oh Lord. When?

How much longer Lord?

Someday, my people will be delivered from the false tyranny of two party rule.

(Or one party, if as we all really suspect, the two parties are really just the two sides of the same party.)

When shall we be able to wear orange or green and not just red and blue?

I have seen and tasted freedom Lord. I know what it is like to live in a nation where the politicians and the corporations do not own the voters. Where minority governments are held in check.

If not now Lord, then when?

Even a third viable party Lord.

That is all we ask.

 

[PSCGuy]

One more reason we need a system that would allow multiple parties.

Political ones, that is, of course. We probably don't have a shortage of the other kind.

I agree with you. I think we need at least five parties, but even three or four would be better. Remember those alternative election systems I was talking about in a different thread? That's how you get there.

 

[hotatlboi]

It's pretty fucking pathetic that Republicans are so anti-gay they have to require loyalty to a policy opposed by 75% of the people.

 

[Kulindahr]

I agree with you. I think we need at least five parties, but even three or four would be better. Remember those alternative election systems I was talking about in a different thread? That's how you get there.

Pick one, and apply it to House delegations. Within three elections, I bet neither of the Big Two would have a majority in the House of Representatives.

Then get rid of the idiot idea of having Senators directly elected, and let the state legislatures do it. Three-term limit.

And get Congress to amend the constitution so that the only entities allowed to donate to politics are voters.

 

[CowboyBob]

Conservative Republicans won't be happy until all gays are back in the closet with no rights at all. In their twisted minds, it's a "choice" (we actually opted to be gay) and it's a perversion. It's the culture wars again.

Where are the Republican job bills they ran on?

 

[Centexfarmer]

Interesting.

When the topics fall upon party or ideological lines certain posters in this forum have a very strong opinion.

When it comes to how it relates to us as members of the GLBT community regardless of our party or ideological lines:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg[/ame]

Hell, I'd be the first one to brag about how much I'd been doing to change this ideology within my own party!

I'd even go so far as to share how hard it is, and the details of the obstacles that I've personally encountered, and how certain "conservatives" don't reflect my views as a conservative Gay Male.

But where talking about Republicans; fuck your mother to get elected at any cost. The GOP and it's enablers.

The same group that couldn't stand for something so they decided to fall for anything even if it meant vilifying the Gay American's within their own midst.

The same political party that couldn't honestly stand on any real principle, but during it's history had to rely upon the likes of Jerry Falwell and his "Moral Majority" (Which even then was neither!), to get the likes of Ronald Reagan, and G.W.H. Bush elected.

Now it looks like the Republicans are relying upon CPAC, and the the "Tea Party" movement to maintain/regain power.

And for what?

The GOP doesn't have a tract record of doing a gawd-damned thing for the middle class.

Study American history since the "Civil War" and I challenge anyone to come up with a decade, an era, even an administration where the Republican Party was ever an advocate for the "middle class."

The GLBT Community are some of the last and complete converts that they've yet to completely win over.

And why should they win us over?

To try to win a "majority" of us over from the Democratic Party or as Independents they'd have to alienate nearly all of their so called "Christian" base to get us there.

To win the "minority" of us over from the GLBT Community they only have to keep doing what their doing; promising less government, and fiscal responsibility, while promising their so called "Christian" base "god, guns, and country" while make the rest of second class citizens.

"Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner" must resonate with a lot of "self-haters" out there, because I've yet to read more than two self-described "Gay Republicans" share anything here about how difficult it is to be "Gay" AND "Republican" in this Forum.

Oh, and my "conservative" favorite cousin from East Texas thinks that I'm the shit.

And she would say, the "liberals" just aren't as accepting and open minded as she is.

And then "play the victim" as if to illustrate her point.

WTFE

I'm sure that the new chair of CPAC weighed the numbers and figured out that he could scare more money out of the so called "Christians" within his party, and the self-professed "conservatives" and make good with that promise than any luck that he might have with "the gays" within his party. As if "the gays" live on his block.

 

[Kulindahr]

Where are the Republican job bills they ran on?

There aren't any. They know that the only way they're actually going to get some jobs going is to end the tax cuts for the wealthy, then raise them, so we can get infrastructure fixed, then raise them again so we can end the deficit, then raise them again so we can pay down the debt.

 

[Ninja108]

There are no jobs. Republicians are going to run with the gays are bad campaign theme that worked for them in 04.

 

[rareboy]

When the topics fall upon party or ideological lines certain posters in this forum have a very strong opinion.

When it comes to how it relates to us as members of the GLBT community regardless of our party or ideological lines: *crickets*

Well Centex.....

It is because some of them aren't actually gay.

They might be homos, but they're not gay.

And as you know, in a couple of cases, I seriously doubt if they are actually homos. I think they are actually bored housewives from Dade County who get paid to trawl political boards as 'communications consultants' in between earning a few bucks on their phone sex gig.

But the actual republican homos here will always be the first to admit that being a homo isn't all that important to them. Since they are deeply in the closet and their entire homo experience is limited to whacking off to internet porn, they don't find it difficult to march lock-step in their party parade........

The one thing though for me. If just occasionally they demonstrated some outrage and balls when it came to fighting the regressive social legislation agenda of the republican party, I might actually have a modicum of respect when we are disagreeing on other issues.

But because time and again, all we hear are *crickets* from a few of our favourite under bridge dwellers when it comes to homo rights being trampled by their overlords, I can't help but hold their opinions on other issues in much lower regard, or in many cases, utter contempt.

 

[rareboy]

I notice that since the above postings, the reactionaries have lots to say about the Wisconsin protests.............but nothing to offer here.

Sad. Really sad. And so telling.

 

[bike10]

GOP God's Only Party. CPAC a grathering of white anglo saxon protestant bigots.