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Evidently this quake did not score high enough on the Richter scale to interest Anderson Cooper into a personal visit. Or simply not enough deaths. . .
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New Zealand quake kills dozens
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While not on the same scale, and far fewer deaths (about 200), we are a small country and it's like our 9/11. We virtually have to try and rebuild our country's 2nd biggest city from scratch.
PS ... who is Anderson Cooper???
yeah mate , just watching the news about soil liquifying etc , i think theres not much point rebuiding on that spot ! will cause a major rethink of structual guidelines etc , a bit like darwin after tracy ( and that was just a bit of wind ). has that hotel fallen over yet? keep seeing that no survivors since wed arvo ? still have hope , people have crawled out of rubble six weeks later when no one was looking for them .
In the forum where I'm admin we have a member from Christchurch. He's been very active and shared with us the stories of the last quake his city faced last September.
We haven't heard from him since this one. We don't know what's going on..... hopefully he just lost his internet connection and is alright.
We haven't heard from him since this one. We don't know what's going on..... hopefully he just lost his internet connection and is alright.
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Actually there are ways to build on soil that can liquefy during quakes. The caveat is that you can't build tall -- or heavy, for that matter. No parking garages, no brick structures, definitely no stone. Light and sturdy is the order of the day, along with lots of open space. We looked at that as a problem in a geology course. What you can build looks a lot like a standard suburb with every other house taken out, and no businesses except light retail and low-level commercial.
But no, you can't put a real city there.
From what I've seen Christchurch missed the worst possibility: there are formations where hills can actually liquefy; the result can be like turning the hill to thick syrup -- the buildings shatter, sink, and flow with the hill as it spreads, kinda after the fashion of a slow-motion flash flood. The worst place to be is any building at the bottom of the hill.
But no, you can't put a real city there.
From what I've seen Christchurch missed the worst possibility: there are formations where hills can actually liquefy; the result can be like turning the hill to thick syrup -- the buildings shatter, sink, and flow with the hill as it spreads, kinda after the fashion of a slow-motion flash flood. The worst place to be is any building at the bottom of the hill.
http://www.ce.washington.edu/~liquefaction/html/main.html
Same thing happened in San Francisco's Marina District in 1989. I was there 2 weeks before it happened.
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They missed one we looked at when I was at OSU: in areas where the geology is such that slopes regularly undergo almost annual creep due to heavy saturation by water, the slopes can liquefy. If they've been overburdened, they can literally flow.
It's the reason a development permit was denied to a very large area not too far from the university. Some kind of deal was worked out where the city ended up with the land and added it to an existing HUGE park.
They missed one we looked at when I was at OSU: in areas where the geology is such that slopes regularly undergo almost annual creep due to heavy saturation by water, the slopes can liquefy. If they've been overburdened, they can literally flow.
It's the reason a development permit was denied to a very large area not too far from the university. Some kind of deal was worked out where the city ended up with the land and added it to an existing HUGE park.
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how amusing!
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There's large parts of the city without power. 4 large underground cables have snapped. It would normally take months to fix them so they're going to build overground cables on poles instead, which they started today.
On the other hand, he could be seriously injured or something (worse).
justaguy
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Not yet. They're going to demolish it. I think the current plan is to drop a wrecking ball from a crane through the middle of it and try and push the walls into the centre.
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Why doesn't NZ build earthquake proof buildings? Or was the damage uncontrollable due to the texture of the city's soil? Or the shallowness of the earthquake?
I think one of the real tragedies of the earthquake is that there seems to be no lesson to learn.
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Part of the ongoing lesson that if we'd known all the earth science we do now three hundred years ago, we would have known a lot of places not to build cities.
Part of the ongoing lesson that if we'd known all the earth science we do now three hundred years ago, we would have known a lot of places not to build cities.
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Of all the places to get an earthquake in NZ, Christchurch was one of the least likely. Also, a lot of Christchurch (like the cathedral) was built at the end of the 1800's in brick. It's a lot like England in terms of architecture and there would have been an uproar if anyone had suggested these buildings be pulled down. They have no choice now.
Also : the force of the earthquake was greater that what they allow for as standard in building permits etc. I think it was 1.2 times greater than the force that buildings should be able to withstand.
Still, there was obviously something wrong with the design and/or construction of the CTV and PGC buildings that pancaked, as they were both comparatively modern buildings.
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That makes me think of an irony from being at OSU: of all the buildings on campus, one of the least safe int terms of earthquakes was the geology building. We took it as a bright example of letting bureaucrats make decisions that require science.
Correct me if i'm wrong but the fault where the earthquake happened was only recently discovered, like in the past couple of years? Also the city that most of NZ is waiting for the big one is Wellington - I remember being told that within my first week of living there and boy did I make myself aware of how to react in an earthquake.
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Hi Guys. I live in Christchurch its been the worst of times here. Lost a couple of friends. My house has survived, got power now too. No water or sewage. Its nice to see the JUB community cares about whats going on down here. Love to all. XX
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