No tip for a gay waiter. He got this note instead.

[star-warrior]

Please nobody answer this.

Let's just let this sit in the hall of shame.

If you don't address the problem which is employers taking advantage of their employees, then you're always going to get shit like the kid has experienced from the customer. Pay a decent wage to the employee. They're not slaves.

What you're saying is, keep the tips system to be exploited. That's morally despicable. People should not work their hearts and soul out for a crappy wage where the employer only pays a nominal wage to be made up by customer tips.

Exactly. Here in the Uk we do not automatically tip.
If you are in a restaurant and the service is good then we tip. Otherwise we don't.
The staff are paid a reasonable wage so all tips are a bonus, as it should be
I have worked as a waiter in the past and, through good service, was able to double my wages most weeks. If I had had no tips I would still have had an OK wage

See, someone gets why I wrote that above.

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/11/new_york_restaurant_bans_tips_for_wait_staffs_own_good/

If you’ve ever worked in a restaurant — and nearly half of all adults have at least once during their life — you’re probably familiar with stingy bosses who pay less per hour than the price of the subway ride to work. But in a volatile industry, where servers experience triple the poverty rate of the whole workforce, one restaurant in New York seeks to stamp out unlivable wages and exploitation — by getting rid of tips.

This may sound counterintuitive until you learn that Sushi Yasuda, an upscale joint in midtown Manhattan, has opted to provide its staff with a decent salary and benefits package that includes vacation days, sick leave and health insurance. Instead of a tip line, the restaurant notifies their patrons at the bottom of the check:

“Following the custom in Japan, Sushi Yasuda’s service staff are fully compensated by their salary. Therefore gratuities are not accepted.”

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

How do you know that?

Because unless they were other locals who knew him, they wouldn't know his sexuality unless they personally asked him or if he told them. As a waiter I doubt he's introducing himself with his name and sexual orientation.

 

[bankside]

What is god?
I can conclude that god = me.
In that quote if you replace the word god with the word me, it makes more sense.

"Thank you for your service, it was excellent. That being said, we cannot in good conscience tip you, for your homosexual lifestyle is an affront to [STRIKE]God[/STRIKE] Me. (Homosexual slur) do not share in the wealth of [STRIKE]GOD[/STRIKE] Me, and you will not share in ours. We hope you will see the tip your (homosexual slur) choices made you lose out on, and plan accordingly. It is never too late for [STRIKE]GOD’s[/STRIKE] My love, but none shall be spared for (homosexual slur). May [STRIKE]GOD[/STRIKE] Me have mercy on you. "


That makes me think about that wedding priest again.
That priest was talking about himself ...

Good point. God is invented as the ambassador for the inventor's own ego.

 

[Love me 2]

If these "godly" folks had read James 5:4 they might have acted differently:
Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

Thanks for pointing that out! It makes sense.

 

[Beachguyj]

How do these people live with themselves?



http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...s-leave-anti-gay-note-lieu-tip-184104528.html

I bet this is as fake as the girl who lies about the N word being written on a receipt.

 

[Love me 2]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/10/25/us-waiter-receives-anti-gay-message-on-christian-couples-bill-your-fag-choices-made-you-lose-out/

According to this account a local pastor responded

According to KCTV, a local pastor Marvin Baker was among one of his supporters.

He said: “I was angry. I said this is not Christian as I know it.”

The waiter displays true humility amongst his supporters.

 

[gsdx]

I bet this is as fake as the girl who lies about the N word being written on a receipt.

The waiter had nothing to do with the story breaking.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Because unless they were other locals who knew him, they wouldn't know his sexuality unless they personally asked him or if he told them. As a waiter I doubt he's introducing himself with his name and sexual orientation.

Yes you're right. We don't need to tell other people we're gay— sometimes they can just guess it using non-verbal communication.

But I'll reiterate my earlier post. Everything we're hearing in this case has been heard second-hand. Hearsay isn't acceptable in the court room.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

But I'll reiterate my earlier post. Everything we're hearing in this case has been heard second-hand. Hearsay isn't acceptable in the court room.

Good thing this isn't being taken to court then.

 

[-Kane-]

Fucking knuckle dragging idiots! While we've seen far worse stupidity coupled with atrocities in human history, it's still a sad time to be alive on this planet. 90 percent of the scum that walks the earth believes in some wizard with omnipotent magical powers, and they insist that everyone else abides by the dusty religions which praises their beloved wizards' names.

There is simply no reasoning with these weak minded hypocrites.

 

[Kulindahr]

Fucking knuckle dragging idiots! While we've seen far worse stupidity coupled with atrocities in human history, it's still a sad time to be alive on this planet. 90 percent of the scum that walks the earth believes in some wizard with omnipotent magical powers, and they insist that everyone else abides by the dusty religions which praises their beloved wizards' names.

There is simply no reasoning with these weak minded hypocrites.

They've certainly taught you well.

 

[nafhoosier]

If you don't address the problem which is employers taking advantage of their employees, then you're always going to get shit like the kid has experienced from the customer. Pay a decent wage to the employee. They're not slaves.

What you're saying is, keep the tips system to be exploited. That's morally despicable. People should not work their hearts and soul out for a crappy wage where the employer only pays a nominal wage to be made up by customer tips.



See, someone gets why I wrote that above.

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/11/new_york_restaurant_bans_tips_for_wait_staffs_own_good/

FYI I am a server and I am very happy with the tip system. I make good tips and lots of money because I give my customers good service.

Of course there are plenty of cheap asses who don't tip despite good service, but I usually get bad tips for a reason if they do happen.

The tip system as it is now encourages me to continue giving good service (hence the 'reward') and I get immediate cash once my shift is over. There are different benefits to every job, that is the benefit of being a waiter. I am not 'slave' labor and my employers are not taking advantage of me. If they paid me minimum wage customers would also suffer because items on the menu would be higher and the service would be poorer (nobody would tip if waiters made minimum wage, like in Europe).

So suck it up and tip a server if they give you service. Otherwise, if you don't like the system just stay home and write your congressman (and good luck with that).

As they say in the service industry: "If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out to eat".

It's that simple.

 

[medic1]

There is more to it than that dude,why should i feel obliged to tip if the service was crap or indifferent?
Otherwise i see your point.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

FYI I am a server and I am very happy with the tip system. I make good tips and lots of money because I give my customers good service.

Of course there are plenty of cheap asses who don't tip despite good service, but I usually get bad tips for a reason if they do happen.

The tip system as it is now encourages me to continue giving good service (hence the 'reward') and I get immediate cash once my shift is over. There are different benefits to every job, that is the benefit of being a waiter. I am not 'slave' labor and my employers are not taking advantage of me. If they paid me minimum wage customers would also suffer because items on the menu would be higher and the service would be poorer (nobody would tip if waiters made minimum wage, like in Europe).

So suck it up and tip a server if they give you service. Otherwise, if you don't like the system just stay home and write your congressman (and good luck with that).

As they say in the service industry: "If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out to eat".

It's that simple.

If waiters/waitresses people did a poorer job because they're not getting "rewards", then they're just bad at their job. There are plenty of people that give good service at other "service" jobs that don't get tips. To me, seeing the payment you should be receiving from your employer as a "reward", is a problem.

And your employer is most definitely taking advantage of you by leaving it up to the customer to pay you. You are doing a job and someone can decide not to pay because they're just cheap, how is that a fair system? Plus the fact that it isn't there to benefit you, it's there to benefit the company by making things cheaper for them.

 

[Willie Boy]

If you want the waiter to earn a good wage, you have to persuade employers to remove the tips system as a means of supplementing the worker's wage.

It would be a fairer system to both the customer and the worker if everything is priced above board on the menu or bill explicitly for services rendered. That is, if you ordered a three course meal and the price is $50 then you pay only $50 and not expect to pay a tip on top.

Why do you need to tip someone in one line of work when you don't do it for say lawyers, or your doctor, the policeman, the ambulance driver?

Please nobody answer this.

Let's just let this sit in the hall of shame.

Why not? Its a great idea. Then the tip could be left for exceptional service, as it should be. The cost of the meal for and standard service should be what is charged with the EMPLOYER paying the EMPLOYEE's wage. If the service is above and beyond what is expected then the patron should be able to leave a tip based on that extra service, and it should go directly (tax free) to the server who provided the extra service.

As for those fools who know nothing about what they profess to believe...... To bad restaurants in the area couldn't get together and ban them from patronage as was suggested earlier in the thread.

 

[eastofeden]

If waiters/waitresses people did a poorer job because they're not getting "rewards", then they're just bad at their job. There are plenty of people that give good service at other "service" jobs that don't get tips. To me, seeing the payment you should be receiving from your employer as a "reward", is a problem.

And your employer is most definitely taking advantage of you by leaving it up to the customer to pay you. You are doing a job and someone can decide not to pay because they're just cheap, how is that a fair system? Plus the fact that it isn't there to benefit you, it's there to benefit the company by making things cheaper for them.

Most restaurants go under in the first year...an epic number of them fail. The margins are tight and if the restaurant was forced to compensate the waitpersons for their tips even more would go over the cliff.

Waiting tables is a hard job and the tip system is great because it serves as an incentive for an otherwise low paying job to give customers good service which reflects on the restaurant as well. You take a lot of crap from people and if there was no incentive...service would suffer... and it spirals and affects everything.

There are people who don't tip but fortunately there are people who overtip (I am one of them) to help balance it out.

 

[Beachguyj]

The waiter had nothing to do with the story breaking.

How would anyone know about it if he didn't tell them show them or let someone take a picture of the receipt.

I also doubt someone is gonna take the time to write a book on a receipt.

 

[palbert]

Shit happens. Move on.

 

[nafhoosier]

If waiters/waitresses people did a poorer job because they're not getting "rewards", then they're just bad at their job. There are plenty of people that give good service at other "service" jobs that don't get tips. To me, seeing the payment you should be receiving from your employer as a "reward", is a problem.

And your employer is most definitely taking advantage of you by leaving it up to the customer to pay you. You are doing a job and someone can decide not to pay because they're just cheap, how is that a fair system? Plus the fact that it isn't there to benefit you, it's there to benefit the company by making things cheaper for them.

And cheaper for the customers.

I'm happy with the tip system and it keeps me going. I always move on from bad tips because there are always great ones to make up for it.

I make more money actually from the tip system than if my employer paid me minimum wage. Nobody would tip if the system were changed and there would be no reason to be a server. I could just work at Subway or McDonalds.

And the argument of why don't you tip other jobs like lawyers, teachers, whatever? They are paid higher salaries.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

And the argument of why don't you tip other jobs like lawyers, teachers, whatever? They are paid higher salaries.

I meant more in line of retail. That is as much as a service job as waiters/waitresses.