O Belamo—

[HoodedRat]

The move from a structuralist account in which capital is understood to structure social relations in relatively homologous ways to a view of hegemony in which power relations are subject to repetition, convergence, and rearticulation brought the question of temporality into the thinking of structure, and marked a shift from a form of Althusserian theory that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects to one in which the insights into the contingent possibility of structure inaugurate a renewed conception of hegemony as bound up with the contingent sites and strategies of the rearticulation of power.

Hilarious.

What a load of meaningless bollocks.

I wonder how long it takes her to order in McDonalds.

 

[rareboy]

^ I used to threaten to give an F to any student who used the word hegemony in an essay when I was a TA.

But we had a neighbour when we lived in the city who was incapable of writing anything other than this sort of meaningless purple prose.

 

[rareboy]

It is also perfectly possible to love the mathematics of Bach, Handel, and other great baroque composers ... and yet also enjoy and love the emotional melodies of Dvorak, Tchaikovsky, and other great romantics. Music never has to be a case of either/or. I actually feel quite sorry for those with a restricted appreciation of musical genres.

This. Entirely.

Anyone who thinks that they have superior taste in music because they have a subjective preference for one genre or time period over another has invariably turned out to be quite intellectually and emotionally limited.

In almost every genre of music form around the world across all time that I have listened to, there is always something to appreciate and learn from.

 

[HoodedRat]

This. Entirely.

Anyone who thinks that they have superior taste in music because they have a subjective preference for one genre or time period over another has invariably turned out to be quite intellectually and emotionally limited.

In almost every genre of music form around the world across all time that I have listened to, there is always something to appreciate and learn from.

So true. I cannot count the number of times that someone has said to me, 'Music is my life!', but then on continued conversation, it turns out that they don't really mean 'music', they actually just mean only one very limited, narrow genre of their personal favourite sonic-wallpaper.

Often, people who say that seem to have absolutely no concept of the vast range of musical forms and traditions, and the amazing music they could discover if they were prepared to step outside of their audio-ghetto and open their ears.

 

[gsdx]

^ I can listen to a lot of different genres, but my favourite is classical. I cannot, however, listen to Béla Bartók.

 

[pat grimshaw]

..Bartók.

Which Bartók are you talking about. Early Bartók or late. His adult work or his romantic ones?

 

[JerryPic]

Is pat belamo?

 

[pat grimshaw]

Is pat belamo?

I am a Belamo-groupie.

It is also perfectly possible to love the mathematics of Bach, Handel, and other great baroque composers ... and yet also enjoy and love the emotional melodies of Dvorak, Tchaikovsky, and other great romantics. Music never has to be a case of either/or. I actually feel quite sorry for those with a restricted appreciation of musical genres.

I think Belamo wants more from music than mere pleasure.

He says sounds and patterns of sounds are the same as neurological pulses in the brain.

These external sounds from Bach and Haendel and early Mozart can relate to the patterns in the brain and perhaps make it pulse more clearly.

All the work from late Mozart to now (including Beethoven, Dvorak, Tchaikovsky) are overlaid with so much variety and richness and emotionalism which other people (including me) love but Belamo thinks as being 'not-useful'.




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[JerryPic]

I am a Belamo-groupie.



I think Belamo wants more from music than mere pleasure.

He says sounds and patterns of sounds are the same as neurological pulses in the brain.

These external sounds from Bach and Haendel and early Mozart can relate to the patterns in the brain and perhaps make it pulse more clearly.

All the work from late Mozart to now (including Beethoven, Dvorak, Tchaikovsky) are overlaid with so much variety and richness and emotionalism which other people (including me) love but Belamo thinks as being 'not-useful'.

I see.

But please don't argue over music anymore, it's so childish. Everyone has it's own taste. But, to take a side... I understand belamo more than rareboy...
rareboy sometimes sounds like some ancient commie

 

[gsdx]

Which Bartók are you talking about. Early Bartók or late. His adult work or his romantic ones?

The Bartók that I can't even classify as music. You know, the music that hurts when you listen to it. The music where he breaks ever rule.

 

[pat grimshaw]

... Bartok ....

Listen for the delicate tunes in this piece—

The composer is in the hills above the village as night approaches. You can hear the birds.

And then there’s a shiver of wind.

And then the composer's thoughts are resolved as the evening closes in.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Verbal assault is like buying a packet of dehydrated water: just add water.

 

[rareboy]

I see.

But please don't argue over music anymore, it's so childish. Everyone has it's own taste. But, to take a side... I understand belamo more than rareboy...
rareboy sometimes sounds like some ancient commie

You say that like it is some superior mark of distinction.

It isn't.

And Belamo has always been quite understandable behind his very transparent pseudo-intellectual facade.

 

[pat grimshaw]

... rareboy sometimes sounds like some ancient commie

I have that old person on Ignore. They have their own staff and their rehab nurses to watch them as they stew in their own manic, splenetic juices.

..someone has said to me, 'Music is my life!', but then on continued conversation, it turns out that they don't really mean 'music', they actually just mean...

Yes, I find they so often really mean 'the singer is really pretty', 'I like their pants…they dance real nice'.

... Victor Gutierrez ...He's in the Spanish water polo team and he's just announced he's up for some cock. ...

Victor has been keeping himself to himself. He isn't slutting about on Youtube like that little Brit diver and Harry Louis and those other party boys on http://www.bitchyf.it/page/4/

 

[pat grimshaw]

Belamo, I know you have your finger on the pulse of people. And I know you are disinhibited from the petty Bowdlerised attitudes of the Puritanical Nations.

You've initiated 3 of JUB's 16 most popular threads—

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/threads/390426-What-have-you-learnt-today

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/threads/419242-Post-something-just-for-the-heck-of-it

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/threads/417292-What-is-happening-outdoors-in-your-location-right-now

 

[pat grimshaw]

... the wisest of people...

Where ARE you Kallipolis? It's been 5 days.

I hope you haven't embarked on a Work Creation Scheme to creating employment for all those ravening hordes invading your country.

.... service industries rely upon low cost immigrants to work for a pittance...

 

[rareboy]

It is like watching a baboon in a zoo masturbate.

 

[pat grimshaw]

^
Handel was genius. I love all his music. Even the 'religious' stuff is great, although I usually prefer all that nonsense to be sung in a language that I don't understand ... so anything other than English really.

Yes. Handel is like Shakespeare. They both take a simple idea and elaborate on it over and over for about five minutes. It can make nice sounds and nice poetry but it isn't all that dramatic on stage.

The English words in this clip help tell us why this man is getting worked up into a state of frenzy in the middle of the night in Peking.

Both Handel and Shakespeare worked for the aristocracy. But after the 1850s revolutions, artists had to appeal to the middle classes with more realistic stories.

Puccini made operas where the music is in the background to the drama of realistic domestic situations.

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Nessun_dorma

 

[mikemizanin729]

Yay the thread opens again.

 

[HoodedRat]

It is like watching a baboon in a zoo masturbate.

Fabulous!