Obama Already Running for Re-Election

[NickCole]

Barack Obama, unsurprisingly, perfects the perpetual campaign. Building "Barack Obama 2.0" before he's even sworn in. He also, apparently, may have "under the Obama umbrella" a parallel service organization while he's supposed to be our President during this difficult time.

Apparently he's too busy with the economy to follow through with several campaign pledges but not too busy to get his 2012 campaign off the ground and initiate a private service organization that'll help beef up his e-mail list.

No wonder he's short on time to deal with pesky Presidental pledges.

As Barack Obama builds his administration and prepares to take office next week, his political team is quietly planning for a nationwide hiring binge that would marshal an army of full-time organizers to press the new president's agenda and lay the foundation for his reelection. ...

In what would be another unprecedented step, Obama's political staff is deciding whether to create a service organization that would use the vast corps of its grass-roots campaign supporters. As described by one source knowledgeable with the discussions, this nonprofit arm would be used to help victims of natural disasters, but would do so under the Obama umbrella while continuing to build the overall network's massive e-mail database. ...

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-obama-army14-2009jan14,0,4545116.story

 

[gingentleman]

Oh, for fuck's sake!

The man hasn't even been sworn in yet, so let's not bash him yet, okay?!!!

 

[Kulindahr]

Oh, for fuck's sake!

The man hasn't even been sworn in yet, so let's not bash him yet, okay?!!!

If he's doing stupid stuff now, we can call him on it now.

If it's stuff someone thinks he may do once in office -- wait.

 

[iman]

A Democrat investing in a political organization and preparing for future contests is a good thing - unless one is a Republican.

 

[NickCole]

A Democrat investing in a political organization and preparing for future contests is a good thing - unless one is a Republican.

That's not the extent of it.

Read the article.

I hope posting a few more paragraphs of it isn't against the rules:

A centralized system run from the DNC would mark a break from the Democratic tradition of relying more on muscular state and local party organizations. It would more closely mirror the Republican structure created under President Bush, whose political guru Karl Rove engineered the 2004 reelection campaign from his post at the White House using a central GOP database.

One key difference, however, is that the Republicans used their network to target Democrats and win elections, whereas the Obama system will be used at least in part to influence members of the president's own party.

For example, Democratic lawmakers in Republican-leaning districts might resist voting for an Obama-backed global warming bill. In that case, the White House or DNC could use the new network for phone campaigns, demonstrations or lobbying trips to push lawmakers to stick with Obama.

"You can pretty much target the list to people who haven't always voted with Democrats," said a House Democratic leadership aide familiar with the plan.

This aide said the pressure could actually help Democrats in those districts. They could either point to a groundswell of support for the Obama policy as a reason to vote for it -- or, alternatively, they could choose to score points with conservatives by bucking the activists.

This attempts, through very sophisticated propagandist and bullying techniques, to circumvent the Executive/Legislative branch balance of our government. Obama is reaching for unprecedented power.

As the saying goes, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[hotatlboi]

Barack Obama, unsurprisingly, perfects the perpetual campaign. Building "Barack Obama 2.0" before he's even sworn in. He also, apparently, may have "under the Obama umbrella" a parallel service organization while he's supposed to be our President during this difficult time.

Apparently he's too busy with the economy to follow through with several campaign pledges but not too busy to get his 2012 campaign off the ground and initiate a private service organization that'll help beef up his e-mail list.

No wonder he's short on time to deal with pesky Presidental pledges.

NickCole, unsurprisingly, continues his crusade of hate against the president elect. He's already looking for new reasons to bash before Obama is even sworn in.

Apparently he's too busy criticizing Obama and finding fault with his failures to govern and broken promises to notice that he hasn't even taken office yet and is therefore powerless at the moment to accomplish anything NickCole wants done.

No wonder he hated Obama from the beginning, if the irrationality he displays here is any indication, this section will have to endure a heavy load of bull from NickCole over the next 4 years.

Obama is reaching for unprecedented power.

Something tells me you have confused the incoming and outgoing administrations.

Come back to me when Obama repeats the same Constitutional dismemberment that Bush did, I'm not seeing it as of yet.

 

[NickCole]

NickCole, unsurprisingly, continues his crusade of hate against the president elect.

I don't hate him. I have no feelings for him one way or the other.

I'm concerned about my country and I'm concerned about the direction our government is headed.

 

[iman]

That's not the extent of it.

Read the article.

I hope posting a few more paragraphs of it isn't against the rules:





This attempts, through very sophisticated propagandist and bullying techniques, to circumvent the Executive/Legislative branch balance of our government. Obama is reaching for unprecedented power.

As the saying goes, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Obama is attempting to get some very important legislation passed - legislation that every good Democrat should support. No President can push legislation through that does not have a core of support in the country and Obama will be President for only 4 or 8 years, so I don't think the Republic is at risk.

The problems are too serious now for Congressional gridlock. Criticism of specific issues is fine, but criticism of the political methodology is irrelevant and premature.

 

[hotatlboi]

I have no feelings for him one way or the other.

Considering the totality of your previous posts regarding him, I find that extremely hard to believe.

I'm concerned about my country and I'm concerned about the direction our government is headed.

Yes we would have been so much better under McCain. [/sarcasm]

I'm not saying give him a free pass on everything, but again I remain convinced that he is one of the most progressive politicians ever to win the presidency, and I think even if you disagree with him trying to tear him down before he even has a chance to show what he's going to do is silly and counterproductive.

 

[NickCole]

The problems are too serious now for Congressional gridlock.

Congressional gridlock??

Democrats are in control of Congress and all the leaders supported Obama in the Primaries. Clearly they're on his side. But that doesn't mean good honest debate over issues and solutions isn't useful. Rubberstamping a President's proposals was terrible when Republicans did it for Bush and it'll be terrible if Democrats do it for Obama. This isn't a Dictatorship; there's a reason our government is set up as it is, and it's a good reason.

Criticism of specific issues is fine, but criticism of the political methodology is irrelevant and premature.

I'll resist making the obvious point.

 

[Kulindahr]

This attempts, through very sophisticated propagandist and bullying techniques, to circumvent the Executive/Legislative branch balance of our government. Obama is reaching for unprecedented power.

As the saying goes, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Modern liberals/leftists have always loved centralization of power. Obama is merely taking another step on that direction, by coming up with a structure capable of enforcing party "orthodoxy". In the Senate and House, there's the Whip, the guy whose job it is to get everyone to vote the party line; Obama's idea merely extends that by doing what outfits like the Sierra Club already do: get lots of people to tell their Congresscritters how they ought to be voting.

This doesn't really surprise me; it's a logical extension of the liberal program.

 

[NickCole]

Modern liberals/leftists have always loved centralization of power. Obama is merely taking another step on that direction, by coming up with a structure capable of enforcing party "orthodoxy". In the Senate and House, there's the Whip, the guy whose job it is to get everyone to vote the party line; Obama's idea merely extends that by doing what outfits like the Sierra Club already do: get lots of people to tell their Congresscritters how they ought to be voting.

This doesn't really surprise me; it's a logical extension of the liberal program.

This new Obama machine is more like Rove's operation in the Bush White House than anything liberals have ever done.

 

[Spiff]

By the number of Obama threads that this guy creates, I'd say he is JUB's biggest Obama fan.

 

[Kulindahr]

This new Obama machine is more like Rove's operation in the Bush White House than anything liberals have ever done.

Liberals have done such things, just not on the national level.

 

[Glafna]

Obama is attempting to get some very important legislation passed - legislation that every good Democrat should support. No President can push legislation through that does not have a core of support in the country and Obama will be President for only 4 or 8 years, so I don't think the Republic is at risk.

The problems are too serious now for Congressional gridlock. Criticism of specific issues is fine, but criticism of the political methodology is irrelevant and premature.

Wait... is this really happening... iman is showing... SUPPORT FOR OBAMA.... Holy fuck it's a miracle.

Good point though

 

[Kulindahr]

Wait... is this really happening... iman is showing... SUPPORT FOR OBAMA.... Holy fuck it's a miracle.

Good point though

Well, I'll support Obama when he moves to dismantle everything the "USA PATRIOT" Act did, and a few more pieces of police-state legislation.

 

[Kulindahr]

So you won't be supporting him. The patriot act will never be rolled back completely.

No; he's just another police-state fan.

 

[Kulindahr]

Maybe not where you live. Here, it's quite common for the cops to stop someone, arrest them, then decide what they arrested them for. The D.A. in the next county over has cops arrest people for whatever they can dream up or fabricate, just to provide his assistants with courtroom practice -- and, of course, justify his increasing budgets.

And the apparatus to make it national builds apace.

 

[Kulindahr]

Then that's Oregon's fault, not DC's fault. You should fix that problem--- buy more guns.

I already have more guns than I can shoot at once. The others hang (disabled) where they look pretty.
But we're not to the bullets-instead-of-ballots point yet, though Bush had me wondering.

 

[chance1]

NickCole, unsurprisingly, continues his crusade of hate against the president elect. He's already looking for new reasons to bash before Obama is even sworn in.

Apparently he's too busy criticizing Obama and finding fault with his failures to govern and broken promises to notice that he hasn't even taken office yet and is therefore powerless at the moment to accomplish anything NickCole wants done.

No wonder he hated Obama from the beginning, if the irrationality he displays here is any indication, this section will have to endure a heavy load of bull from NickCole over the next 4 years.


Something tells me you have confused the incoming and outgoing administrations.

Come back to me when Obama repeats the same Constitutional dismemberment that Bush did, I'm not seeing it as of yet.

crusade of hate? hardly hate

sure nick is not obama's #1 fan nor he need be

but crusade of hate?

as for "bull from nick" i find him refreshingly candid, thorough, passionate and a good writer - if i don't always agree with him - often i do not

as for obama, he's got my vote for 2012

i like his cabinet choices and other than his gitmo blah blah blah and some level of concern i have re: panetta/patriot act/kicking terrorists asses ......

he's doing good