Obama said: too inexperienced to run for President

[NickCole]

In 2004 Barack Obama agreed with my position, which Obama supporters attack.

Obama is a hypocrite. He demonstrates it here and elsewhere. And he attracts a population of supporters who are quick to turn on their own (Democrats tearing down Democrats during a primary, blacks turning on people like Tavis Smiley who've been hugely supportive of African Americans and popular with them until they turned on a dime because he wouldn't follow the crowd). I don't trust hypocrites or narcissists, or the judgement of people who follow mob mentality.

But it's interesting to discover Barack Obama agreed with those of us who say he's not experienced enough to be President in 2008.

"I am a believer in knowing what you're doing when you apply for a job, and I think that if I were to seriously consider running on a national ticket, I would essentially have to start now before having served a day in the Senate. Now, there are some people who would be comfortable doing that, but I'm not one of those people." - Barack Obama (November 8, 2004)

 

[frankfrank]

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Oh...um...talk about turning on a dime.

Inexperience does not AUTOMATICALLY guarantee inability to perform in the position, but this has made me feel uncertain all along, and it's one of the reasons why I've always considered him "one of the two worst" Democratic candidates out of the entire original roster of aspirants.

I think that everybody knows who I think the other of the "two worst" candidates is...

 

[seamusnewwest]

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Oh...um...talk about turning on a dime.

Inexperience does not AUTOMATICALLY guarantee inability to perform in the position, but this has made me feel uncertain all along, and it's one of the reasons why I've always considered him "one of the two worst" Democratic candidates out of the entire original roster of aspirants.

I think that everybody knows who I think the other of the "two worst" candidates is...

I don't know who you think the other two worst candidates are. Do tell? And just curious, but why do you underline the "rack" in Barack?

 

[NickCole]

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Dick Cheney has been a Washington insider for 35 years and in the last five of those he was involved in Enron, the CIA leak scandal (Scooter Libby), the poor choice of which countries to bomb or not, and the last I heard was that he shot an octogenarian in the face.

With experience like that, who doesn't want a fresh face?

Cheney isn't running, and neither is a protege of his.

There are people with experience who are bad but that doesn't mean having experience is bad.

 

[jetsonboy]

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Because he won't underline the Hussein in his middle name.

 

[seamusnewwest]

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Hey ... just checked your profile. My ideal height, my favorite eye colour, intelligent, about my age, well and politely spoken, and good politics!

Hmmmm.

 

[jetsonboy]

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Hey ... just checked your profile. My ideal height, my favorite eye colour, intelligent, about my age, well and politely spoken, and good politics!

Hmmmm.

Ummm, are you talking to me?

 

[JackFTwist]

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that is one of the worst case I have ever seen, even here, for twisting and distorting what a person says

 

[seamusnewwest]

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Ummm, are you talking to me?

Yes! Is that too off-topic? But I note you are a top, and I would only go as far as frottage down that road, I'm afraid.

 

[jetsonboy]

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No prob, but hey let's start a new topic hehe. Or better yet, let's hook up!

 

[NickCole]

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that is one of the worst case I have ever seen, even here, for twisting and distorting what a person says

It's right there in the video, Barack Obama speaking himself about his inexperience and running for President.

Doesn't get more direct or clear than that.

And yet you call it twisting and distorting. But that's no surprise to me.

 

[Kurn]

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The steroids candidate.

 

[Spensed]

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Past experience isn't automatically a predictor of future success.

What Obama lacks in experience, he makes up in intelligence, charisma and poise.

I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primary because I thought Obama's resume was a bit thin. But, look how the campaigns have been run. Obama has totally set the agenda and reduced Hillary's stategy to just attacking him. That speaks for itself. It's a shame because she might well have made the better President, but we don't get there if she can't get herself nominated or elected.

Based on past results and polls about who would win against McCain, Obama is clearly more electable.

 

[Glafna]

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That was 4 years ago, which has what to do with the election?

 

[NickCole]

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That was 4 years ago, which has what to do with the election?

Listen to the video.

Obama's giving his lack of experience as the reason he wouldn't run in 2008.

 

[SixPackInBoxers]

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Nick,

Recognize it is over. Obama will now certainly be the Democratic nominee. It was a great contest.

Today Obama is a million votes ahead of Hillary.

He is 6% ahead of her the polls among Democrats nationally.

He has about 150 more pledged delegates.

He has moved ahead of her in Texas polls and is narrowing in Ohio.

(See http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html)

He has won 26 out of 37 primary or caucus contests.

He has won all the last 11 contests.

He is on the verge, in the next day or so to have had one million people donate to his campaign - by far an all time record (by last month the average donation was $201 per supporter).

He has been drawing the largest crowds in primary history.

So realise that this is a special person who you - and everyone - can be proud of supporting.

As Chris Dodd said today in CLEVELAND today

(AP) -- Sen. Christopher Dodd endorsed one-time presidential rival Barack Obama on Tuesday and said it is time for Democrats to join forces to defeat the Republicans in the fall campaign.

''I don't want a campaign that is divisive here, and there's a danger in that,'' Dodd said, although he denied he was nudging Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to end her candidacy.

Dodd said Obama was ''ready to be president and I am ready to support him in this campaign.''

The two men appeared together at a news conference. Dodd is the first of the Democratic campaign dropouts to endorse another candidate.

He said Obama ''has been poked and prodded, analyzed and criticized, called too green, too trusting and for all of that has already won'' more than half the states and millions of votes.

''It's now the hour to come together. ... This is the moment for Democrats and independents and others to come together, to get behind this candidacy,'' he said.

 

[Zingerific]

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Changing one's mind is not hypocrisy. To make that claim is distortion.

The quotation you are citing is a full two years before he announced his candidacy. I think maybe a quotation from Mike Gravel (yes, Gravel!):

"When I first got to the Senate, I thought, 'how in the world did I ever get to this august body?' Six months later, I thought 'how in the hell did these other fools get here?'"

So Obama gets to the Senate and realizes he can do at least as well as those other fools, and changes his mind. Where is the hypocrisy there?

 

[frankfrank]

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I don't know who you think the other two worst candidates are. Do tell? And just curious, but why do you underline the "rack" in Barack?

Obama being one, Clinton being the other.

The "rack" is only underlined for wordplay, as it's pronounced exactly the same as "rock" later in the sentence...(I'm off to make a minor change on it...thanks)

Cheney isn't running, and neither is a protege of his.

There are people with experience who are bad but that doesn't mean having experience is bad.

Didn't I hear, SOMEWHERE, that McCain is planning to use Karl Rove behind the scenes in his campaign???

 

[chance1]

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that is one of the worst case I have ever seen, even here, for twisting and distorting what a person says

gotta disagree

he said - obama did

that he would not be comfortable running for national office cuz he believes in "knowing what he's doing" - i think that's hit

he said it

clearly he has changed his mind

doesn't make him a bad person

but he went from

im not experienced enough to
im experienced enough

which is it

and why the change?

inquiring minds wanna know

legit question

after nick's couple of trash obama threads (shameless but typical), this one is legit

even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then right?

 

[Kulindahr]

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Dick Cheney has been a Washington insider for 35 years and in the last five of those he was involved in Enron, the CIA leak scandal (Scooter Libby), the poor choice of which countries to bomb or not, and the last I heard was that he shot an octogenarian in the face.

With experience like that, who doesn't want a fresh face?

Listen to the video.

Obama's giving his lack of experience as the reason he wouldn't run in 2008.

From his perspective in 2004.
He didn't get railroaded into 2008 by a time machine, you know.

Changing one's mind is not hypocrisy. To make that claim is distortion.

The quotation you are citing is a full two years before he announced his candidacy. I think maybe a quotation from Mike Gravel (yes, Gravel!):

"When I first got to the Senate, I thought, 'how in the world did I ever get to this august body?' Six months later, I thought 'how in the hell did these other fools get here?'"

So Obama gets to the Senate and realizes he can do at least as well as those other fools, and changes his mind. Where is the hypocrisy there?

Or Obama gets to the Senate and decides he can do better than those other fools, and be better for the country than the supposed heir apparent.... Or Obama gets to the Senate and sees how everyone who goes there ends up corrupted by the system, and decides he'd better run now before he's too thoroughly polluted....

I have a nagging fear that if Obama gets elected we're all going to discover he has a horrible, ghastly flaw... like we found out about GW Bush once 9/11 hit him and he went power-mad (I think he would have had a bland, uneventful, undistinguished presidency with balanced budgets but for that). But picking at him with the weak shots that keep bobbing up on this forum is still just weak.