On-Topic Obama will not disclose college records ... what is he hiding?

[LuvFindsAndyHardy]

I'll just reiterate that I studied comparative religions for one term but it didn't make me religious.

I'm not going to quote your entire post, but let me just say I think it's a great one.

I am not a Catholic (and never have been) but I attended a Catholic university and was required to take one theology class. I chose a course in "Christian Marriage" because I thought it would be interesting. It was, I learned a lot, and I got an "A" but it didn't make me run out to get "Christian Married" to a woman. Could you imagine?

However, many people study not to reinforce what they know or to prop up their own beliefs, but to understand the issues better in order to forge progress in these fields of human endeavour.

Elitist!!!!

"J'Accuse!"

 

[Benvolio]

Is that were true Hussein should have no reluctance to disclose his school records. To what extent dif he seek ou Marxist professors? Did he study any economics other than Marxist theory? How and why did he become steeped in Islam?

 

[rareboy]

Wow... that doesn't seem so inflammatory of a response. The moderation is in rapid fire mode lately... yes, when one of my friends did religious studies (as a minor) and studied various religions and the history of them. Benvolio has a general lack of understanding of both economics and religious studies.

Oh trust me. It was somewhat more incendiary.

The worst part is that this mantra of 'Steeped in Islam' is probably going to be one of the RNC black arts talking points that will get smeared like bloody excrement over FOX and Fiends as well as on Limbaugh.

Give it up, Benvolio.

 

[Jack Springer]

Back on course ...

Don't you want to learn more about Obama? his studies? his GPA? what groups he belonged to in college? what his interests were?

 

[Kulindahr]

What someone was "Steeped in" is not terribly relevant to what he becomes. After all, in the George Romney household, Mitt was steeped in integrity and openness, and it doesn't seem to have stuck.

 

[FuryOfFirestorm]

The big question is not what his grades were but what couses he studied? Marxism, for sure. Economics, not a chance. Black, i.e. anti-white studies, big time. Islamic studies, no doubt. He was steeped in Islam, remember?

Quit beating that horse already, Benny. It's a fine paste by now.

BTW - Try taking an actual Black History class sometime. "Black =/= "Anti - White"

 

[FuryOfFirestorm]

I'll just reiterate that I studied comparative religions for one term but it didn't make me religious.

I also studied Fascism and Marxism but it didn't make me either a fan of Hitler or hell bent to collectivize all the farms.

However, many people study not to reinforce what they know or to prop up their own beliefs, but to understand the issues better in order to forge progress in these fields of human endeavour.

Unfortunately, the xenophobic, islamaphobic and those who promote the virtues of ignorance don't see the world this way.

And yes, Giancarlo, I noted that Benvolio does not appear to have studied economics, Marxism, Islam or Race Issues based on his general responses on these topics.

But..but...I took Black History Studies in high school and now I'm a black man! My best friend took Feminist Theory in college and his dick fell off!

 

[Jack Springer]

No. I know a lot about Obama already. I don't need to dive into what college group he was part of...

Maybe you should write and book and tell the rest of us.

 

[rareboy]

^ Or maybe you might just do the research yourself.

All the information you need is out there.

 

[jackoroe]

Obama is not a Marxist, or a Socialist. And he is far from one. And I'm sure he's studied other economic theories. I studied a wide variety myself. I'm sure he did too. He never become "steeped" in Islam. He's not a Muslim. Get over it already!

Sorry, he is. He was a member of the Socialist New Party. From the minutes of the organization.

Barack Obama, candidate for State Senate in the 13th Legislative District, gave a statement to the membership and answered questions. He signed the New Party “Candidate Contract” and requested an endorsement from the New Party. He also joined the New Party.

Obama’s Third-Party History - Stanley Kurtz - National Review Online

And he was also a dope smoking coke user. That, my friend, makes him a felon. No maybe, he's committed a felony by his own admission.

"Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it," wrote Obama about what he would later say were "bad decisions." "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man."

Obama's Drug Use Debated - CBS News

I don't judge him for his drug use, but the hypocrisy of saying somebody else "might" have committed a felony when it is he who is in fact a felon.

 

[JayHawk]

Right Jack by his own admission. Now if Romney will simply write a book (himself) and admit to his felonies then he will be near to the same level of clarity, truthfulness and character as our current commander 'n' chief

 

[Centexfarmer]

I don't judge him for his drug use, but the hypocrisy of saying somebody else "might" have committed a felony when it is he who is in fact a felon.

I'm actually a little disappointed to see you say this there buddy.

Until the Supreme Court overturned Texas' Sodomy laws, many of us "cock suckers" were denied even the right to run for public office if we were "openly gay" because we were admitted "criminals." In most cases not even having been "convicted" of a Class C Misdemeanor, but by our own admission "guilty" of breaking the law.

IOW Barack Obama is no more a Felon than Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin of JFK in Dallas.

Neither of the two have ever been "convicted" of the crime in question.

Now the "court of public opinion" is a whole other turd.

And to me that's part of what this topic is about.

Fascinating really.

The right wingers, the hate mongers, and a good percentage of the knuckle dragging low information voters who think that FOX NEWS is "Fair and Balanced" have been slinging shit at the wall for nearly four years now hoping that something might "stick."

It's the 11th hour, with a lackluster candidate running against a Democratic Incumbent, and NOW they're dragging up Obama's college records?



Give me a Fucking Break!

 

[jackoroe]

No he's not. And his viewpoints and policies have been far from socialist. He's a capitalist. I know you like to make these attacks on the left wing, and you call people socialists as if it is a bad thing. Being a socialist is a good thing, but I can tell you as a SOCIALIST... OBAMA is NOT a socialist.

Protest as loudly as you like. He belonged to a socialist organization and then lied to the American people about that membership. Now if you'd like to argue that people who belong to screwball leftist organizations don't actually support those views, go right ahead. That's the only argument you could even try to make.

Debatable at best.

So make an argument.

And what was Bush? You see two can play at this game. I had a friend that was using crystal meth. He could have been arrested, but was lucky. He cleaned up his life, and now is at UCLA to study to become a psychologist. I guess he should go to prison anyways.

Having no defense, you bring up someone not running for office. Who cares? Glad your friend got his head out of his ass, though.

He's not a felon though. Continue engaging in these emotionally charged attacks based on complete non-issues. I think tax evasion is far worse then some recreational drug use.

Really? Cocaine is a Schedule II substance. There is nowhere on earth where the possession or use of cocaine for recreational purposes is legal. It is a felony to posess it in the US and you can even be prosecuted federally. It is, as I have stated, a felony. There's nothing emotional about the assertion, just a recitation of the facts.

Jack, you're so completely off the mark...

And you've once again failed to factually rebut a single point.

 

[jackoroe]

I'm actually a little disappointed to see you say this there buddy.

Until the Supreme Court overturned Texas' Sodomy laws, many of us "cock suckers" were denied even the right to run for public office if we were "openly gay" because we were admitted "criminals." In most cases not even having been "convicted" of a Class C Misdemeanor, but by our own admission "guilty" of breaking the law.

IOW Barack Obama is no more a Felon than Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin of JFK in Dallas.

Neither of the two have ever been "convicted" of the crime in question.

Now the "court of public opinion" is a whole other turd.

And to me that's part of what this topic is about.

Fascinating really.

The right wingers, the hate mongers, and a good percentage of the knuckle dragging low information voters who think that FOX NEWS is "Fair and Balanced" have been slinging shit at the wall for nearly four years now hoping that something might "stick."

It's the 11th hour, with a lackluster candidate running against a Democratic Incumbent, and NOW they're dragging up Obama's college records?



Give me a Fucking Break!

The Supreme Court addressed the sodomy issue in Texas and other places. I respectfully take issue with the comparison between sleeping with whom you like and drug use. There is no societal cost to sucking somebody's dick. There is to drug abuse. It's not relevant whether or not he's been convicted of anything. He's freely admitted to using a substance that was felonious. There's no dispute on the facts.

Do I agree with our drug laws? No, I really could care less what you put into your own body. Drugs should be legal not because they rise to the level of a civil right, but it just isn't any of the governments business. There's a difference.

And the point about hypocrisy stands. Obama is a felon by his own admission. No one is calling him to task for using drugs. But allowing this ridiculous "he may have committed a felony" nonsense to go on is below the dignity of Obama's office. If he thinks a crimes been committed, investigate and make a charge. Outside of that, he should instruct his people to refrain from repeating an innuendo.

 

[Centexfarmer]

The Supreme Court addressed the sodomy issue in Texas and other places. I respectfully take issue with the comparison between sleeping with whom you like and drug use. There is no societal cost to sucking somebody's dick. There is to drug abuse. It's not relevant whether or not he's been convicted of anything. He's freely admitted to using a substance that was felonious. There's no dispute on the facts.

Do I agree with our drug laws? No, I really could care less what you put into your own body. Drugs should be legal not because they rise to the level of a civil right, but it just isn't any of the governments business. There's a difference.

And the point about hypocrisy stands. Obama is a felon by his own admission. No one is calling him to task for using drugs. But allowing this ridiculous "he may have committed a felony" nonsense to go on is below the dignity of Obama's office. If he thinks a crimes been committed, investigate and make a charge. Outside of that, he should instruct his people to refrain from repeating an innuendo.

And once again I can't really find any fault with your argument/response.

It's one thing to do something based upon one's perceived Constitutional Rights as a Citizen; having sex with members of the same sex while clearly being "against the law," and promoting reckless behavior "because it wasn't all that bad" while thumbing your nose at a principle of ideas and laws that you've sworn yourself to uphold and to protect.

I get it.

 

[palbert]

Centex : From your avatar your dick is misplaced.

 

[jackoroe]

What point? You didn't answer one of my questions. Obama is not a felon. So try to come up with something a little more substance. He didn't commit a felony. He was not convicted or even indicted for a felony.

You asked one question. What about Bush? I responded. Who cares? Seriously, do you know how to engage in discussion or is it simply spewing the same assertion without foundation or citation repeatedly?

 

[Centexfarmer]

Centex : From your avatar your dick is misplaced.

What my avatar is grabbing, there Mainer, is called a "saddle horn."

Google it.

 

[palbert]

Does it work like a dick? Do you sit on it for support?

 

[jackoroe]

What my avatar is grabbing, there Mainer, is called a "saddle horn."

Google it.

We generally use English saddles around these parts. They don't have saddle horns.