Obama's 'Blame Bush' strategy

[laikaNYC]

With the midterm elections right around the corner it has become obvious that President Obama is not at all confident in his policies. A true strong and credible leader he is not, instead he makes portrays himself as looking very weak, specifically by shifting the blame on Bush at every chance he gets. He has nothing to run on except for his unpopular Health Care bill. So what does he continue to do instead to rile up his base for the midterm elections? Blame Bush. Instead of confidently running on his own party's "accomplishments", Obama attempts to scare Americans that the GOP will only make things worse, in turn setting up a straw man. In a memo released by the President's own pollster it reveals shocking news for the White House.

Would a Republican Congress mean a return to Bush policies? (yes/no)
• Democrats (32-60%)
• Liberals (34-59%)
• Independents (22-67%)
• Moderates (25-65%)

Obama can continue playing the blame game all he wants, but American's aren't buying into it, especially the Independent voting bloc that put him into office. Even Democrats and liberals are unconvinced that a Republican Congress means a return to Bushanomics. It's obvious Obama is terrified that the GOP, once they take back Congress, will bring forth far better popular ideas.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/Third%20Way%20Polling%20Memo%20-%20June%202010%20Economy%20Poll.pdf

 

[palemale]

It's obvious Obama is terrified that the GOP, once they take back Congress, will bring forth far better popular ideas.

How could Obama think that? The Republicans haven't put forward any better, more popular ideas. They haven't put forward any ideas, except a few Bush retreads. Would you care to enlighten us about these Republican ideas that are better and more popular than Democratic ones?

 

[BostonPirate]

perhaps if they had expressed those far better ideas at any point in the last ten years the voters would take the republicans seriously.

Any economist knows that it takes two to four years for most economic policies to affect a change in any real way.

republicans are playing a silly game and the voters are not as stupid as the republicans think they are.

Obama needs to remind people of what the options are, and the truth is that the new republicans have offered nothing since the days of Bush as policy.

so he OUGHT to do just that and point it out.

your biggest problem with this, is you are assuming that just aying something means it is true. Healthcare IS actually now popular in america.

lastly... the problem with your thread is this....

while you point out that Bush is not up for election right now, you fail to point out that Obama is also NOT up for election currently.

Thanks for the reminder as to the ideological bankruptcy of the republicans.

 

[palemale]

Laika. Have you seen this Jon Stewart bit? He demonstrates how the Bushies blamed Clinton FOR EIGHT YEARS! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/30/stewart-blame-clinton-not_n_630471.html

Of course, remind me. Who got us into two wars and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression?

 

[laikaNYC]

Guys, 59% of your fellow liberals agree that the GOP will bring forth new ideas.

 

[BostonPirate]

Who got us into two wars and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression?

SInce Laika won't be fessin up...lol

let me

BUSH AND CHENEY

 

[BostonPirate]

Guys, 59% of your fellow liberals agree that the GOP will bring forth new ideas.

your data file on these figures shows as corrupt on my system...HAHAHA

oh the irony

can you provide a link to this document you are sourcing from that is not in PDF format?

 

[MoltenRock III]

Laika. Have you seen this Jon Stewart bit? He demonstrates how the Bushies blamed Clinton FOR EIGHT YEARS! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/30/stewart-blame-clinton-not_n_630471.html

Of course, remind me. Who got us into two wars and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression?

They still blame him in fact. It's pathetic seeing how short some uneducated people's memory are. America is fucked.

 

[BostonPirate]

I can't find the original source of this data presented, but I tracked down the addy to a blog, so it really is just an Op ed piece.

I am guessing Laika skimmed this from the conservative blogosphere.

 

[rareboy]

It's obvious Obama is terrified that the GOP, once they take back Congress, will bring forth far better popular ideas.

It is the hallmark of a bankrupt and cynical, self-serving political party that they would spend 2 years without sharing these 'popular' ideas with the rest of the country.

There is nothing preventing them from sharing their better ideas for America today.

Nothing.

At all.

 

[CoolBlue71]

I support President Obama reminding this country's voters about Bush and his Republican cronies.

 

[laikaNYC]

I can't find the original source of this data presented, but I tracked down the addy to a blog, so it really is just an Op ed piece.

I am guessing Laika skimmed this from the conservative blogosphere.

It's not my fault you can't open a PDF

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...f+Moderates+(25-65%)&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[BostonPirate]

-it would seem they have differeing conclusions...HA

In this memo, we provide advice for progressive leaders based on our recent
polling with Benenson Strategy Group.1 This advice is designed to help
progressives win the economic argument at a critical time—when our nation is
poised between recovery and recession and the decisions we make today will have
an enormous impact on the lives of Americans and the middle class.
Our advice is condensed into three main points which we explain in detail
below. For progressives to win the debate over the economic future, we must:
1. Marry conservative economic ideas to those of President Bush.
2. Emphasize a vision for private sector growth and fiscal discipline.
3. Relate to the middle class through tomorrow’s promise, not today’s pain.

 

[BostonPirate]

And this....

Mentioning President Bush creates a 49-point swing:
• When the question pits the Obama agenda versus the Bush agenda,
progressives win. By a 49-34% margin Americans prefer a leader “who will stick
with President Obama’s economic policies” over one “who will go back to
President Bush’s economic policies.” (Independents - 47-31%)
• When the question pits generic conservative ideasagainst the Obama agenda,
preferences swing by 49-points and conservatives win. By a 64-30% margin
Americans prefer a leader “who will start from scratch with new ideas to shrink
government, cut taxes, and grow the economy” over one “who will stick with
President Barack Obama’s economic policies.” (Independents - 75-18%)

so if they are doing it, and I hope they are, it is proving to be quite successful.

interesting that you didn't mention the conclusions of the group that did the study

any reason why you didn't?

 

[laikaNYC]

When the question pits generic conservative ideas against the Obama agenda,
preferences swing by 49-points and conservatives win. By a 64-30% margin
Americans prefer a leader “who will start from scratch with new ideas to shrink
government, cut taxes, and grow the economy” over one “who will stick with
President Barack Obama’s economic policies.” (Independents - 75-18%)

That part isn't a good thing, BP! It says they would prefer a generic Conservative's ideas against the Obama agenda. It also says near 2/3 want to start from scratch and "shrink government", compared to someone who will stick with Obama's economic policies.

 

[BostonPirate]

That part isn't a good thing, BP! It says they would prefer a generic Conservative's ideas against the Obama agenda. It also says near 2/3 want to start from scratch and "shrink government", compared to someone who will stick with Obama's economic policies.

you cherry picked data, ignored the conclusions, and then hid the original in an unfriendly formatted file.

anyway

the group disagrees with your assesment.

thats all I needed to know. You tried to spin something and it isn't working.

Nice try though.... you are getting good at this.

 

[laikaNYC]

I didn't cherry pick and take any text out of contex. I posted the entire article. It seems you're the only one who couldn't open this "unfriendly formatted file".

And their conclusions should worry you. It proves Americans are overwhemingly unimpressed with Obama's economic policies. All it shows it that they support his ideas over Bush's. But thankfully, Bush won't be on any ballet come November.

 

[BostonPirate]

you took a report, a memo on advising the progressives how to win in november and then you tried to infer that this source was the basis for your assertions that a strew man was being used, when you been the constructor of that straw man and it pointed in an entirely different direction than you are asserting.

 

[BostonPirate]

Most Americans (not the people on this board) but most Americans are now starting to blame Obama for the countries problems.

His falling poll numbers are proof of that.

USAToday Gallup has him at 41% approval. 38% among whites.

Gee that's pretty close to Bush numbers. I think by the time the election gets here Bush will be more popular than Obama. lol.

I thought you were off talkking to shia Le Bouef about fisting on a plane trip you once took. Interesting that he would consider it. I don't believe it and you are fibbing that he said he would. the bright side is you made a new sex buddy chat friend right?

well nevermind... that thread must have been by someone else... where were we...

oh.. the point.

DO you have a point relevant to this thread ? here to give old laika a handjob or ask him about fisting?

 

[BostonPirate]

No, but Bush is going to do an interview with Matt Lauer the day before election day.

I don't know how that will play.

Maybe it won't damage the Republicans. But I do think it might be a bad idea.

But he might be more popular than Obama by then.

Do you think that shia would fist Bush? He fisted the nation, so I hear he likes that kind of thing.