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Occupy Together - Began at 55 Wall Street & Expanded Globally

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mainstream media seems seems like they are trying to squash it by belittling them.

Pretty much from what I've seen the only time they do report on it is when they are saying how they are essentially thugs and trying being destructive. The local news seems to be pretty neutral about it though. Its good to see that they have been peaceful for the most parts.

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I don't fault the police for arresting some of them. Like the whole Brooklyn bridge thing was obviously an arrestable offense, and peaceful or not, you cannot shut down streets and bridges without a permit. Simply saying "this is a peaceful protest" does not make it legal.

On the flip side, I don't fault the protesters on bit either. Things obviously NEED to change and this is a big way for people to be heard. They are not asking for anything outrageous or anything and what they are asking for should not be an issue in the first place. All the built up frustration obviously led to this with the government not listening to the people and not changing things got us where we are today. I am a bit surprised at the turnout though. Goes to show how many people really want things to change.
 
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I don't fault the police for arresting some of them. Like the whole Brooklyn bridge thing was obviously an arrestable offense, and peaceful or not, you cannot shut down streets and bridges without a permit. Simply saying "this is a peaceful protest" does not make it legal.

I don't think your opinion is unpopular. Many probably share it.

Regarding the Brooklyn Bridge arrests, there's not just a little controversy concerning the faultlessness of the arrests. Read here.

On the flip side, I don't fault the protesters on bit either. Things obviously NEED to change and this is a big way for people to be heard. They are not asking for anything outrageous or anything and what they are asking for should not be an issue in the first place. All the built up frustration obviously led to this with the government not listening to the people and not changing things got us where we are today. I am a bit surprised at the turnout though. Goes to show how many people really want things to change.

The turnout was great. I went down after work for awhile. I think there were several thousand more than three...but I don't know to estimate crowd size. There's a lot of support for the movement here in Portland. Good.
 
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mainstream media seems seems like they are trying to squash it by belittling them.

If they actually had a reason or purpose they might get media attention.

No one there knows what they are protesting.
 
If they actually had a reason or purpose they might get media attention.

No one there knows what they are protesting.

The media attention is nice but practically irrelevant.

You're misinformed about its lack.
 
Really? How so?

If you're asking why I think media coverage is practically irrelevant: it's because the movement is thriving without it. See the role the internet/social media played in the Arab spring.

If you're asking why I think you're misinformed about a lack of media coverage: it's because the media is (now) covering it.
 
I don't think your opinion is unpopular. Many probably share it.

Regarding the Brooklyn Bridge arrests, there's not just a little controversy concerning the faultlessness of the arrests. Read here.

That's weird... I don't think the lawsuits will turn into anything, but you never know.


The turnout was great. I went down after work for awhile. I think there were several thousand more than three...but I don't know to estimate crowd size. There's a lot of support for the movement here in Portland. Good.

Yea, I heard that figure on the news, but several people I've talked to said it seemed like way more people. Good to see there is a good amount of support for it here too. :D
 
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mainstream media seems seems like they are trying to squash it by belittling them.

Mainstream media is owned by the same corporate interests that own the government. When information is one of the most valuable assets in the world, minimizing the spread of it is an effective means of control.
 
http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City


by NYCGA
THIS DOCUMENT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE NYC GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON SEPTEMBER 29, 2011

As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

To the people of the world,

We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard!

*These grievances are not all-inclusive.
 
Those fucking fat over weight police are breaking the bones of skinny protestors .... :mad: :grrr:
 
Those fucking fat over weight police are breaking the bones of skinny protestors .... :mad: :grrr:

...and they are getting away with it.


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