Occupy Wall Street

[kev]

Kulindhar's multiple responses to my post seem a little bitter and over the top. This is why I tend to avoid JUB...with some notable exceptions, there is a conspicuous paucity of gentlemen in the Current Events and Politics Section. You post a cartoon without comment because it speaks for itself and you get called "ignorant" and "shallow" and "hateful".

I would never insult him. He would probably win a pissing contest against me, as his penis is most likely bigger than mine.

Some people, both in these "protests", and even online, have way too much time on their hands.

 

[Kulindahr]

Kulindhar's multiple responses to my post seem a little bitter and over the top. This is why I tend to avoid JUB...with some notable exceptions, there is a conspicuous paucity of gentlemen in the Current Events and Politics Section. You post a cartoon without comment because it speaks for itself and you get called "ignorant" and "shallow" and "hateful".

I would never insult him. He would probably win a pissing contest against me, as his penis is most likely bigger than mine.

Some people, both in these "protests", and even online, have way too much time on their hands.

No bitterness involved.

Anyone who's been paying attention to the protests knows that picture had nothing at all to do with what was going on. It was a cheap deception put together with the intent to fool the non-thinking into being critical of something they hadn't bothered to learn anything about. It's the very same thing the FRC does to gays all the time, and I found it disgusting that anyone here would fall for it.

I won't comment on the "ignorant" "shallow" and "hateful" accusation, because I can't find the post it's based on, except top say that anyone familiar with the issue would see it as shallow and hateful with less than a second's consideration.


edit: okay, I found it. Kev, you're wrong -- I didn't call you any of those things.

 

[Just_Believe18]

Kulindhar's multiple responses to my post seem a little bitter and over the top. This is why I tend to avoid JUB...with some notable exceptions, there is a conspicuous paucity of gentlemen in the Current Events and Politics Section. You post a cartoon without comment because it speaks for itself and you get called "ignorant" and "shallow" and "hateful".

I would never insult him. He would probably win a pissing contest against me, as his penis is most likely bigger than mine.

Some people, both in these "protests", and even online, have way too much time on their hands.

And yet, here you are. You contributed to a topic with questionable arguments that you were called out on. There's no need to cry "Martyr!" as an excuse to not reply back to rebuttals written in response to your posts. You can always just... not reply, leave the discussion, and go back to the Fun & Games forum.

 

[Corny]

picture from boston last night ..

https://i.imgur.com/tZGNh.jpg

apparently this happened in several other cities, too.

just wondering .. don't you guys have a right to protest and peaceful assembly? why didn't riot police show up for teaparty protests?

and why are things like the egyptian protests called "democratic" but the occupy wall street protesters are "unpatriotic"?

 

[Jack Springer]

picture from boston last night ..

https://i.imgur.com/tZGNh.jpg

Your link does not work.

apparently this happened in several other cities, too.

just wondering .. don't you guys have a right to protest and peaceful assembly? why didn't riot police show up for teaparty protests?

The people at these rallies have every right to peacefully protest. I don't know of anyone that is against this. However, when they take over public right-of-ways like major bridges shouting "take the bridge" it no longer becomes a peaceful protest.

and why are things like the egyptian protests called "democratic" but the occupy wall street protesters are "unpatriotic"?

Corny, the USA is a democratic country. We peacefully elect our politicians, we have 3 divisions of government that work separately and yet together. When people want to overthrow a democracy to put something else in place whatever that is they haven't said -- it's not really democratic.

I guess if they wanted to change the government we have a system in place where they can peacefully change things -- it's called elections. We have them on a regular basis.

 

[Tengilethos]

Corny, the USA is a democratic country. We peacefully elect our politicians, we have 3 divisions of government that work separately and yet together. When people want to overthrow a democracy to put something else in place whatever that is they haven't said -- it's not really democratic.

I guess if they wanted to change the government we have a system in place where they can peacefully change things -- it's called elections. We have them on a regular basis.

I believe he understands this considering we went through this a few decades ago and it led to a world war.

But I must admit, I haven't heard that occupy wall street wants to overthrow your democracy. Got any sources?

If they just want to change "the system" without abolishing democracy, then it is surprising that the riot police was sent after them, considering that the Boston demonstrations where peaceful as far as I can tell from our news sources, no rioting involved. I guess that is where the question about freedom of assembly comes from.

 

[palemale]

Corny, the USA is a democratic country. We peacefully elect our politicians, we have 3 divisions of government that work separately and yet together. When people want to overthrow a democracy to put something else in place whatever that is they haven't said -- it's not really democratic.

I guess if they wanted to change the government we have a system in place where they can peacefully change things -- it's called elections. We have them on a regular basis.

Funny, I don't remember you saying the same things when the Tea Party was demonstrating, and disrupting meetings between Congressmembers and their constituents, or when Tea Baggers got elected to Congress and refused to work with each other or the other branches of government, choosing instead to disrupt the system of government we have and making it completely dysfunctional.

 

[Corny]

Overthrowing the system? Even if they plan to do so, a peaceful protest still should be possible. That pic from boston is very very scary.

 

[T-Rexx]

Corny, the USA is a democratic country. We peacefully elect our politicians, we have 3 divisions of government that [STRIKE]work separately and yet together[/STRIKE] aren't doing anything at all. When people want to overthrow a democracy to put something else in place whatever that is they haven't said -- it's not really democratic.

There is nothing on earth more democratic than peacefully assembling to protest the national leadership. At the moment, OWS is democracy. Washington is a plutocracy which no longer responds to the voters, regardless of who is elected.

We want our democracy back.

I guess if they wanted to change the government we have a system in place where they can peacefully change things -- it's called elections. We have them on a regular basis.

You miss the point of OWS entirely, Jack. Elections aren't working. We voted in a majority of Democrats, but all of the policy is being determined by a minority of Republicans. We want someone to represent us.

We want our democracy back.

 

[Jack Springer]

You need to post the pic and not the link. The link does not work.

(If it's a pic of Elizabeth Warren, then I agree it's very scary.)

Overthrowing the system? Even if they plan to do so, a peaceful protest still should be possible. That pic from boston is very very scary.

 

[Jack Springer]

None of the rules have changed.

Politicians don't always tell you the truth. They do what they can to get elected.

Do you think that conservatives are always satisfied with their representation in DC?

There is nothing on earth more democratic than peacefully assembling to protest the national leadership. At the moment, OWS is democracy. Washington is a plutocracy which no longer responds to the voters, regardless of who is elected.

We want our democracy back.



You miss the point of OWS entirely, Jack. Elections aren't working. We voted in a majority of Democrats, but all of the policy is being determined by a minority of Republicans. We want someone to represent us.

We want our democracy back.

 

[Corny]

apparently they are blocking JUB, too. you can copy and paste the url to make it work:

https://i.imgur.com/tZGNh.jpg

 

[White Eagle]

Cornys picture

 

[fetaby]

picture from boston last night ..

https://i.imgur.com/tZGNh.jpg

apparently this happened in several other cities, too.

just wondering .. don't you guys have a right to protest and peaceful assembly?

Supposedly. Only one way to find out and that's to actually do it.

why didn't riot police show up for teaparty protests?

For all the hellfire and brimstone the tea party folks stirred up, they were still "coloring inside the lines."

Tea party =

I guess if they wanted to change the government we have a system in place where they can peacefully change things -- it's called elections. We have them on a regular basis.

OWS = That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.



and why are things like the egyptian protests called "democratic" but the occupy wall street protesters are "unpatriotic"?

Because they are thousands of miles away...

Because their protests didn't disturb our powers that be.

Because the word patriot in America means more than one thing.

 

[CFoTsD]

Boston protesters busted; N.Y. activists plan march on homes

 

[White Eagle]

Here, I found a video of it.

 

[White Eagle]

Oh, yeah, here is the article that goes with the video above.

http://www.alternet.org/newsandview...ers,_including_veterans_for_peace/#paragraph4

Watch Disturbing Video of Mass Arrest of Occupy Boston Protesters, Including Veterans for Peace

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^
Evidently these people are hard of hearing and cannot understand clear messages from the police. They were told they could stay in the one park but not in the other because of the expensive replanting of the park.

.. another thing, if you're in jail - you can't tweet. So much fake shit with these people.

 

[JayHawk]

that is amusing to me. The Boston Police were very clear both before and after the arrest. " Get out ov da flowas, or you wull be awested"

 

[Tengilethos]

that is amusing to me. The Boston Police were very clear both before and after the arrest. " Get out ov da flowas, or you wull be awested"

*sigh* A coincidence that the one article I have read about this omitted this detail?