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Occupy Wall Street

I think it is amusing the ardent support that is typed out on here BUT is not so ardent as to travel on down to wall street and join your 'people'.

I suppose it is easier to cheer from the sidelines and hope they get something done.
 
Just_Believe18 said:
Hey, Justapixel. If I were to attend one of these protests, would I also be considered a "filthy, disgusting 'person?" Are you really going so far to generalize everyone as somehow subhuman? You felt compelled to put person in quotation marks.
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“All generalizations are false, including this one.” ~Mark Twain
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Or the one that he made. ;)

:D
 
The voices from Wall Street are many and varied but they are primarily about values. And the values of Wall Street and its political cheerleaders do not serve the interests and well-being of the vast majority of people, not just in the US but throughout the world.

Naomi Klein, in an interesting article, adds her thoughts here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/07/fight-climate-change-99


I fear democracy itself may be fatally compromised. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Deomcracy is not fatally flawed. But Occupy will not have the ffect it desires. For that a populist movement will have to have MUCH more support.

So everyone don't pay your bills with your online bank account, don't wing by Subway for lunch, don't drive you car purchased with a loan from a big bank, don't pay your mortgage, definitely don't send a text or post on jub on your ATT smartphone, etc etc. The lady on NPR Marketplace put it much more eloquently.

Bottom line is until the majority feel the pain that these out of work disassociated college kids feel then you wont see the sort of change or "revolution" you all seem to be happy to bring about.

Look around at what your typing on and who provides that service, where you are living, what you are driving and what other corporate services you are paying for.... not gonna change.

ANother note. Everyone LOVES to say fuck the banks. I hate the banks and refuse them MOST of my business. BUT they are the greae in our economic engine. If BOA, CITI and CHASE fail then they will take other banks with them, credit will freeze up and so will our economy. The unemployment at that point will make the great depression look like a weekend vacation.

SO keep the fire burnin gents. But try to keep it real.
 
jayhawk you have your head in the sand. Things are bad. People have been promised and promises have been broken.

Instead of downplaying corporate greed's critics, you need to do some soul searching, cause, really?

what you are saying is not matching reality on the streets.

You are out of touch and you are unaware IF that is the conclusion you have come to.
 
BostonPirate said:
jayhawk you have your head in the sand. Things are bad. People have been promised and promises have been broken.

Instead of downplaying corporate greed's critics, you need to do some soul searching, cause, really?

what you are saying is not matching reality on the streets.

You are out of touch and you are unaware IF that is the conclusion you have come to.
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What he said is absolutely correct. If these protestors had struck a nerve with the american people, they would have grown by orders of magnitude. But they haven't. The 99% aren't buying what these people are laying down yet.
 
JB3 said:
What he said is absolutely correct. If these protestors had struck a nerve with the american people, they would have grown by orders of magnitude. But they haven't. The 99% aren't buying what these people are laying down yet.
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new cities everyday buddy

hell it's actually gone global. London's exchange, four or five australian cities and Japan.

Wait until monday morning comes and banking hours begin again. you are going to see much more than you already have.

Really. I know a wildfire movement when it happens, and those people unfortunately have nothing better to do with their time.until they get hope or a job? I think we are going to have them with us, and they will give voice to tens of thousands that did NOT sit in or march.

Follow the money, buddy. Until the people get some this is going to be amorphous and a part of the american political landscape.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/07/business/wall-street-protest-global/index.html?hpt=us_c2
 
JayHawk said:
Deomcracy is not fatally flawed. But Occupy will not have the ffect it desires. For that a populist movement will have to have MUCH more support.

So everyone don't pay your bills with your online bank account, don't wing by Subway for lunch, don't drive you car purchased with a loan from a big bank, don't pay your mortgage, definitely don't send a text or post on jub on your ATT smartphone, etc etc. The lady on NPR Marketplace put it much more eloquently.

Bottom line is until the majority feel the pain that these out of work disassociated college kids feel then you wont see the sort of change or "revolution" you all seem to be happy to bring about.
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I agree it's not going to happen.

Either a proletariat (I'm sorry anything that 'sounds' COMMUNIST requires a hyperlink even though they don't think it's necessary to back up their shit) of means is going to have to champion their cause, or the silent and fucked over the past 30 years is going to have be tossed off a bridge or be shot to capture the message. :rolleyes:

Look around at what your typing on and who provides that service, where you are living, what you are driving and what other corporate services you are paying for.... not gonna change.
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Are you smoking the Ganga?

Cuz in my experience "the message" has already gotten out there before "the powers that be" realized that they were funding it. :p

ANother note. Everyone LOVES to say fuck the banks. I hate the banks and refuse them MOST of my business. BUT they are the grease in our economic engine. If BOA, CITI and CHASE fail then they will take other banks with them, credit will freeze up and so will our economy. The unemployment at that point will make the great depression look like a weekend vacation.
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And how is that any different from what we already have?

The banks aren't loaning any money, American Corporations are squeezing their hourly employees who were once in management to pick up the slack for their NOW PART TIME EMPLOYEES, and their holding their "corporate shares" in the same manner that the United States Treasury once held UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS.

Do you see or recognize just how far down the path we've already gone?

The United States Republican Party are nothing but CORPORATE WHORES who take "campaign contributions" LEGALLY I MIGHT ADD to maintain power, while the Democrats quiver in fear of the Republicans.

WOOSH!

There it is.

That's the fucking truth of the matter.

The pent up frustration of Occupy Wall Street is going to have to "vent" somewhere.

Even if it's fabricated. :(

Even if the "violence" is made up.

There are already factions looking to fill the leadership/message vacuum, and I fear that those who want to fill that vacuum will end up turning it into a "left-wing" version of the Tea Party.

And Obama, and Congress will "rub one out" and the American Electorate won't get to feel their nipples tweaked again until the 2014 Mid Terms. :mad:

By then the "Democrats" will have a NEW MESSAGE, and the current GOP will have discovered that there is a NEW CORPORATE MESSAGE of Capitolism / Free Enterprise that we haven't embraced yet while vilifying the remaining 49.99% (or 99%) of Americans who support some ideal of "progressive change."

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WAIT!

There's Gay Porn HERE?

What in the FUCK am I doing talking about this shit? :grrr:









SO keep the fire burnin gents. But try to keep it real.
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BostonPirate said:
jayhawk you have your head in the sand. Things are bad. People have been promised and promises have been broken.

Instead of downplaying corporate greed's critics, you need to do some soul searching, cause, really?

what you are saying is not matching reality on the streets.

You are out of touch and you are unaware IF that is the conclusion you have come to.
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BostonPirate said:
new cities everyday buddy

hell it's actually gone global. London's exchange, four or five australian cities and Japan.

Wait until monday morning comes and banking hours begin again. you are going to see much more than you already have.

Really. I know a wildfire movement when it happens, and those people unfortunately have nothing better to do with their time.until they get hope or a job? I think we are going to have them with us, and they will give voice to tens of thousands that did NOT sit in or march.

Follow the money, buddy. Until the people get some this is going to be amorphous and a part of the american political landscape.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/07/business/wall-street-protest-global/index.html?hpt=us_c2
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This is NOT a wildfire movement. Regular people see it, rightly or wrongly, as a bunch of college aged kids whining about the future. Until they win over people like, say, my parents, both of whom work extremely hard and don't have a whole lot to show for it, the movement is going nowhere fast. I know the truth hurts Boston. But these protestors have done very little to appeal to the people that they need to actually make change happen.
 
JB3 said:
If these protestors had struck a nerve with the american people, they would have grown by orders of magnitude. But they haven't. The 99% aren't buying what these people are laying down yet.
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It started with one city.

In three weeks, that has grown to a thousand cities.

I think that qualifies as growing by "orders of magnitude" already.

And today marks only the 21st day of the movement.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/08/earlyshow/saturday/main20117634.shtml
 
I am one of the 99%.

I am willing, able, and wanting to work.

I have the skills, knowledge, and abilities to be an asset to a company.

I am sending my resume' coast to coast in search for work.

I need a job!
 
BostonPirate said:
oh oh

we are now into the pee jokes...
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These people are living outdoors occupying a space to take the gov't back from corporate greed and bought politicians. Peeing on the street is irrelevant.

its interesting that the GOP is trying to use that tactic. That will only further alienate the protesters.
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Why doesn't pixie go on to the fetish forum if he is into piss?
 
Exactly. They will be making new positions in the welfare division for these folks to get their handouts.
 
JayHawk said:
Exactly. They will be making new positions in the welfare division for these folks to get their handouts.
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calling bullshit

all they wanty is for the rich to pay their fair share, because they have nothing left to give up.
 
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