Official Heroes volume 4: Fugitives thread

[AbnormalDann]

So, are Peter's powers now restricted to just one power? It seems like he lost Mohinder's power when he touched Traci. Maybe that's there new solution to keep Peter's ever growing arsenal of powers in check.

How about Hiro? It looks like he lost all of his powers, I wonder if/when he will gain his original powers back or get it nerfed. I know a lot of people thought that his time traveling powers cheapened the show and created problems writing wise with Hiro being able to fix any problems by going back in time.

I thought the last 10 minutes rocked and am interested in that one captive that got sent out the plane. I'm sure that person either A) died or B) has a role in the present story line. All in all, it wasn't a half bad episode. I am, however, annoyed that they changed Peter from a nurse to a paramedic. It's another mistake that makes you wonder if the writing and plot progression will be half-assed.

I thought I saw TWO chairs fly out of the plane? I recall two because after seeing it happen I told myself "This was the saddest part of the episode."

 

[PieRules]

You're right, there were 2 chairs that flew out the plane.

 

[bostonboy20]

yawn....I don't know why I still watch this show...I honestly don't see it getting any better. The story lines just aren't interesting me anymore and the acting is worse then ever

 

[Guy_Gardner]

Thank you. I thought I was the only person who cant stand Sylar. Him just being unstoppable and just killing everybody and taking their powers is so tired. Now all of a sudden "I needa find my birth father." What difference does it make? You are a psycho, serial killer. How is finding your birth father gonna fix anything? But him kicking ass was a highlight of the premiere.

I also miss Elle. But she's not coming back. I miss Meredith as well. I liked how she and Tracy have a history with Nathan and their powers were opposites. Heroes kills off the likable characters (Monica, Meredith, Elle, Eden) but keeps annoying ones (Hiro, Claire) around forever.

Monica isn't dead...she just down in New Orleans and forgotten about...just like the rest of DL's family...I miss Grandma Uhura

and I miss Meredith too...its just doesn't feel right to watch Heroes nowadays without her flamepalm

 

[aijalon18]

you guys have to remember that the writers strike screwed up EVERYTHING!

supposedly the reason maya was in the season was because the virus was going to spread and kill off ALOT of people and in the end she would suck it all up and die.

and many characters got written out because the strike screwed them over when they were going to get a substantial role but....that's the way the cookie crumbles.

You're right. I totally forgot about that. I never heard all that about Maya. But I do remember other people were supposed to get more detailed storylines. I know for sure Micah and his cousin Monica were supposed to have a big storyline that never came about because of the strike. Nikki's storyline was also supposed to be much different. I think she was initally gonna be cured and not die. Those were the only big casualties I read about.

 

[VaseFace808]

Monica isn't dead...she just down in New Orleans and forgotten about...just like the rest of DL's family...I miss Grandma Uhura

and I miss Meredith too...its just doesn't feel right to watch Heroes nowadays without her flamepalm

I totally agree. What was the point of her? Bob gave her a little "what up" gesture in Season 2, but nothing came of it - assuming they knew each other

And yeah, fire palm lol

So I still haven't seen the whole episode waiting for it to air on G4 later

But I liked the 30 seconds of Tracy for literally the 1st time since her first appearance in Villains

 

[bostonboy20]

Apparently Meredith will be back.....If you read "Watch With Kristen" on E! Online....she talked to Jessalyn Gilsig and she said that she's been told that it's Heroes so she's most likely not dead and that she started the fire so why would she die in the fire. So she's waiting to be told she's back on the show but just hopes she's not gonna be in all this burn makeup.

 

[VaseFace808]

That's cool, but I would've figured that it was Pinehurst collapsing falling to the ground that killed her - rather than the fire

But why is Angela so convinced that Sylar is dead (unless she just putting on a show for Claire) I'm mean, they all know there were more people in the building other than themselves - how sets of dental remains did they find?

 

[stevie402]

you guys have to remember that the writers strike screwed up EVERYTHING!

supposedly the reason maya was in the season was because the virus was going to spread and kill off ALOT of people and in the end she would suck it all up and die.

and many characters got written out because the strike screwed them over when they were going to get a substantial role but....that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Yes, I agree...season 2 would have been great if the writer's strike had not occurred. I would have loved a more involved storyline with Merideth, Elle and Monica.

 

[jcojax78]

I didn't mind it. I thought it was better that previous openers. Just a few questions:

1- What happened to Molly? did she just get written off?
2- Noah? What the hell? Good or Bad?

As much as I like the Sylar character, they really, really need to do something different. Either kill him off or completely change his direction. His display of power was pretty sweet though!

 

[kayman23]

Yeah, I enjoyed Heroes in the beginning also, but why are they keeping to the small pool of characters these days? Monica, Micah, Molly, and others with abilities are literally being ignored and forgotten in the ultimate plot of the show will focusing exclusively on a pretty much homogeneously white and throughly explained group of characters.

Hell, I thought Heroes was going to be something that will keep you on your toes and keep you glued to the tube, but now I just like "whatever"

 

[VaseFace808]

I feel like so many characters are just becoming repeats of themselves or their situations - more obviously so on Heroes than other shows

Sylar and Noah in particular. Every hero needs a baddie, but seriously what is left for Sylar to do? Decide to be good for a few episodes and then go bad again OR just continue to kill and take others powers? Either way he seems very uneventful

And I also think it will be soooo expected for HRG to be pretending to be on Nathan's side for the greater good - another character that just seems to be going down the same path yet again - sometimes doing dirty deeds to protect Claire in the bigger picture

A lot of people hate on Claire, but imo sometimes she seems to be the more dynamic character compared to others

I don't know, I just expected more from Villains - and by now I'm kinda just 'meh' with the show

And Caitlin's still stuck in a crappy future?! Seriously...

 

[aijalon18]

Yeah, I enjoyed Heroes in the beginning also, but why are they keeping to the small pool of characters these days? Monica, Micah, Molly, and others with abilities are literally being ignored and forgotten in the ultimate plot of the show will focusing exclusively on a pretty much homogeneously white and throughly explained group of characters.

Hell, I thought Heroes was going to be something that will keep you on your toes and keep you glued to the tube, but now I just like "whatever"

Dont forget killing off DL. But honestly this show is a mess when you think about it. The writers dont know wtf they are doing. Initially they were supposed to have a new cast of "heroes" each season. So you know they are clueless.

 

[Guy_Gardner]

Dont forget killing off DL. But honestly this show is a mess when you think about it. The writers dont know wtf they are doing. Initially they were supposed to have a new cast of "heroes" each season. So you know they are clueless.

oh yeah...I remember that idea with the new cast every year...and older Heroes being reoccuring guest stars....I guess that got thrown out the window so we could have the expanded editon of Hiro in Feudal Japan

and I agree with most of you guys' opinion of Sylar...volume 3 was supposed to finally give us some new villains so that Sylar finally do something else besides killing and more killing ....but what happpened?...every damn new villain got killed off...even some of the one's from previous volumes (though I was happy to see Knox go....his bug eyes got on my last nerves)

I'd hate to think that Sylar has peaked already

 

[Shadowclad86]

You want to know what the problem with Sylar is, he isn't so dangerous or threatening anymore. I also feel they don't really know what to do with him.

I think a scary villian would have to be a kid. A twisted little monster, say a kid who looks like Shirley Temple with the Joker's mentality. I mainly say kids, they freak me out...

 

[jcojax78]

You want to know what the problem with Sylar is, he isn't so dangerous or threatening anymore. I also feel they don't really know what to do with him.

I think a scary villian would have to be a kid. A twisted little monster, say a kid who looks like Shirley Temple with the Joker's mentality. I mainly say kids, they freak me out...

Ohhh, me likey! Thats a great idea. I really liked the character of Sylar in the beginning, but its getting old.

I will finish this season and see what happens. If it keeps going the direction it is, the show will be cancelled. It's already on the fence at NBC, so this could be the perverbial straw to the camel's back.

 

[The_Reaper]

Well, time for me to weigh in.

The episode was good, there were a few parts that dragged on and felt a little forced, but for the most part it was a good premier for the opening of the new volume.

As much as I like Zachary Quinto, and the eye candy he provides, I do think Sylar needs to come to an end. As far as I was concerned, he should have been done at the end of the Season One. Granted, season two and Villains gave him some opportunity to try other things (being powerless and attempting to be good), but now that he's back to murderous Sylar...what else is there for him to do?

I do like the way they've set up Nathan as the villain for this volume, unlike Arthur and his formula (and very confusing who gets powers plot), Adam and his virus and revenge plot, and Sylar and his 'does he or doesn't he blow up New York' plot; Nathan seems to be a very realistic and simplistic villain, which makes him more dangerous than his predecessors.

As for people, one of which I noticed, complaining about Noah/HRG's role always being the same thing...Think realistically for a moment. If you had the career he did for years, do you think you could really settle down into a normal job? Look at season two when he beat the hell out of his boss, ok maybe he didn't really give it to the guy but he did scare the crap out of him...

Couple that with the fact that Nathan's going to want someone with experience to do this kind of job...Who better than Noah? And yes, I'm sure Noah's motivation comes mainly from helping Nathan so long as Claire isn't part of the people rounded up, which is what he always does, but like it or not, Noah is actually a father who tries to do the best by Claire...although his actions don't always seem that way.

I am a little worried, however, with Parkman now being a prophet and future teller...I'd like a damned good explaination for it...Whether Usatu has some kind of mental bond through Parkman's telepathy or what have you, but something to explain how a telepathy is suddenly painting the future.

Other than that, I think the volume is going to be a good one. And I'm not just saying that as a hardcore fan...

 

[nokturnus]

The most funny part was between Hero and Ando (Batman & Robin). Ando i present you the Ando-cycle and Sylar has new parents (how give a crap!!). I hope no one important has fallen the first from the plane.

 

[versatastic]

I'm desperately hoping this season doesn't go down the drain, but I'm not getting my hopes up. It does have promise, though. Now with everyone on the run for fear of being sent to a concentration camp and/or being killed, they have to master their powers in order to survive. Hopefully the show has more money now so we can see some real action.

As much as I hate him, I really hope Peter can get with the fucking program and stop being an idiot. Although, starting out the season with another super pathetic emo moment (crying about not being able to save a man in a car crash) isn't very encouraging. Then again, the previews show him getting into a true leadership role. Hopefully he can at least build up an arsenal of powers again to try to take down his brother.

I'm still on the fence with Sylar. I am kind of tired of him, but at least we are seeing how he has and continues to develop bit by bit as a character as opposed to others. He was bred to be a cold blooded killer, but he doesn't really want to be. He's not on a rampage anymore, and he didn't kill his uncle/"father"/whatever that old man was even though he had abandonment issues. Seeing as how he's still so powerful, he may be the only hope against Nathan because you know Peter's always going to be a little bitch and Claire is just a pesky mosquito, she can't do any real damage.

I wonder what role Parkman will play. Being both a precog and a telepath can help a lot, assuming he or anyone can properly make sense of the drawings. Parkman is still an oaf. I can't believe he wants to try to be on the dl and not use his or Daphne's powers. Hopefully being on the run will force him to expand his telepathy to detect ill-willed people from a distance so that he doesn't get shot in the back again.

I wonder what has become of the Hatian and why he's not partners with HRG anymore. It's basically the same shit they were doing before and he's loyal to Angela, although there's no "company" anymore and this new thing with rounding up everyone with powers, not just the bad/dangerous ones, is probably unsettling to him. I hope we get to see him again this season.

OMFG, I sincerely hope Hiro does not ever get his powers back. Ando might be cool, although he is tweedle-dee to Hiro's tweedle-dumbass

 

[doctorsun]

Chapter 2 was great. I'm pissed they killed Daphne, though...all of the best characters keep dying.

-It looked to me like the guy in the Jeep with Claire was West. If it wasn't him, then I'm really intrigued as to who was texting her.

-I'll bet anything that Nathan ends up being the one to kill the hunter guy.

-Sylar has an apprentice...could be interesting. I like his power.

-Please, not another "quest" for Hiro. He's better off without his powers. Much better off.

-This season is setting up more villains and other people to hate than the entire chapter called "Villains" did. I think there will be some very satisfying comeuppance by the finale.