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Oh No! It's Another Thread About Circumcision.

Age and foreskin status ...

  • Under 30 and cut

    Votes: 24 16.9%

  • Under 30 and uncut

    Votes: 21 14.8%

  • 30-50 and cut

    Votes: 36 25.4%

  • 30-50 and uncut

    Votes: 16 11.3%

  • Over 50 and cut

    Votes: 31 21.8%

  • Over 50 and uncut

    Votes: 14 9.9%

  • I can't tell whether I'm cut or uncut

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    142
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

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A couple of La De Da's.
That's how we laugh the day away in the merry o'l land of Oz!(!)
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

I've never heard any adults regreting their parents decision to have a cleft palate corrected, getting braces for them, or having lazy eye corrected I assume because there isn't a loss of anything anyone deems desirable. There are many men who do regret the loss of pleasure and attractiveness of having foreskin and that's the difference.
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

Baby boys (primarily in the west) are not circumcised because they MIGHT get a bladder infection sometime in their lives or because, at a couple days of age, some kind soul is thinking about protecting them from HIV in the future. Baby boys are not circumcised because their fathers won't teach them how to wash their penises. It is not done to prevent masturbation and it is certainly not done to ensure he has a less pleasurable sex life (most circumcised guys are probably happy with how their equipment feels).
Baby boys are not circumcised because they look better....that is subjective. It is not even done because some doctors are getting rich doing it.

There is no justifiable reason for the procedure.

It is done because it is customary..an habitual course of action. That is not a good enough reason.
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

the video really pissed me off, I am so greatfull that i didn't go through that. its' sickening to think it goes on, THIS is why guys are so fucked up, this is why they grow up to be murders, start wars, it all begins here. When there mulated at birth !
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

-Gareth- said:
(my emphasis)

So, I take it that (following your 'out-of-sight, out-of -mind' principle) that you couldn't care less what happens to children elsewhere in the world?

I shouldn't really be surprised though; that's the kind of attitude I've come to expect from many here on JUB.
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You nailed it, my friend.

Especially the 'out-of-mind' part.
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

JohanLarson said:
Female circumcision? yes. (There aren't very many women who vehemently oppose male circumcision; in fact, most of them seem to prefer it)

I can see why the Arab world hates us, now.
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I must say, this is a most lucid post. :rolleyes: Following your logic, the Arabs also hate us because you are gay, right?
Haters hate, they need no specific reason.

Most women prefer it, eh? Would that include European or Asian or Hispanic women who would never have their sons clipped or did your personal survey only cover American women?#-o
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

i was circumcised and my son will be also and prolly his son after
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

AndrewD said:
Don't chop any future childs foreskin of then please..

Would you like me to chop off your ear lobe... because you don't need it ... do you??
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it's some skin that's there for no reason whocares the child is samll tehey don't remember ut and i wouldnt have it any otherway
 
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AndrewD said:
You can survive with your arms amputated. That doesn't mean they weren't there for a reason. Its not YOUR Foreskin... Just leave it alone... for Gods sake.
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bro go pop some crazy and come back i'm not tell you what to do with your body or what to do with your kids so back off of it we all feel different about stuff just because i'm not gay i'm not going to sit here and tell you to not have feelings towards another man so back the FUCK up thank youu
 
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BlackWolf said:
oh get yourselves. you wernt mutilated as a child, and you wernt abused. if your penis works perfectly fine than shut the fuck up and worry about other things more important. i mean seriously, what is the point of debating this? no one is gonna change because of you. you voice means nothing in this. but of course, all the weak men who cry because they want their foreskin back have to bitch and moan. grow a fucking pair of balls and act like a man.
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obviously it's too late for me to complain about it for myself, but I complain about it for all the babies being born and circumcised without any choice whatsoever. search for circumcision complications, and you'll come up with COUNTLESS instances that could have been avoided.

and I'm against piercing an infant's ears just as much as I am against circumcision, it makes for shitty placement, migration, tearing, and scar tissue... what fun!
 
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AndrewD said:
They are not "your" kids or "my" kids .. they are senteint beings that should be able to choose wether to chop part of their own body of.

Your children are not your possesions or your experiments.
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and A-fucking men to that!
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

JohanLarson said:
If you recall, that's supposedly why we went to war with Iraq; human rights, viz., democracy, in Iraq. (Of course, we all know it was really about oil.)
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Actually, it was because the Templars that told us to! Hussein should have been allowed to kill and torture as many people as he wanted to, silly...

That said: I'm finding the whole debate interesting: A person asked for scientific proof and was given it, but the argument is still along anti-religious grounds. I'm starting to wonder just how rational the anti-religious are...

Also, I always had been told that circumcision enhanced pleasure...weird that it's now the selling point for the anti-circumcised...Could I see THAT scientific study?

RG
 
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I'm no expert in these matters but here's my two penn'orth.

The Jewish / Islamic tradition of circumcision dates back to ancient times in the middle east, i.e. hot, sandy countries before the advent of soap and power showers. On purely environmental grounds, not having a foreskin to get all sandy and grubby was probably a good idea.

As a religious rite, I never understood circumcision - "You my son are the creation of the one true and infallible God. Obviously He made a mistake by leaving this bit of skin attached but we'll get rid of that for you. "

The prevalence of circumcision at birth in the USA is, I suspect, more to do with the extra few hundred dollars the doctors can make. I wonder how many circumsicions would be done of there was no profit involved?

For me, circumsicion should be carried out only as a medical procedure when it is medically necessary. If a boy reaches adulthood and wants to have it done for his own reasons then he should be entitled to do so.

As for arguing against circumcision being cultural imperialism, I disagree. I see nothing imperialist about stating whether or not you believe other societal practices to be morally or ethically dubious.

There are pockets of Africa where it is believed that AIDS can be cured by having sex with a virgin - this belief has led to many cases of baby girls being raped by AIDS infected men. Am I being culturally insensitive to say this is wrong?

Back to topic - in my opinion, the routine ciscumcisions of baby boys for anything other than medical reasons should be outlawed as an act of assault.
 
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splash_79 said:
The reasons for circumcision are 99.9% of the time not out of medical necessity . The grounds for circumcision are cultural or religious in nature.

Is it really that hard to grasp that arguments against these cultural and religious practices are exactly that; arguments against religious and cultural practices?

Or, in your words, 'anti-religious'?
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Nice to see that your reasoning is not based on logical thought, but rather bigotry of some sort.

That said, the cost-effectiveness issue for most circumcisions is debatable; there just isn't enough benefit gained to justify the cost. In some countries there is a good enough reason for it, due to HIV and other infection issues, but in more developed countries the benefit is virtually non-existent.

[Of course, I would point out that the cost done in a hospital is ludicrous, and that even some medical groups have called "fraud" due to the cost, but that's beside the point.]

So I can see the validity of the operation based on old-fashioned logic, but it just doesn't make as much sense in the developed world...

RG
 
Re: To Anyone Who Agrees With Circumcision

Do you guys realize that you're arguing about penises?

Some people believe in circumcision. They're entitled to that. Some people DON'T believe in circumcision. They too are entitled to that.

I'm already cut so what the hell am I gonna do about it? Go to the hospital I was born at and say, "Hey, can I have my foreskin back?"

Not that I want it or anything, I mean I can't miss what I've never had, but I'm just sayin...

Joe's opinion isn't gonna change John's. Etc etc etc. You're either for it or you're against it. It makes no difference to me either way because there's nothing I can do about it.

And that's my .02, whether ya want it or not.
 
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