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Oh No! It's Another Thread About Circumcision.

Age and foreskin status ...

  • Under 30 and cut

    Votes: 24 16.9%
  • Under 30 and uncut

    Votes: 21 14.8%
  • 30-50 and cut

    Votes: 36 25.4%
  • 30-50 and uncut

    Votes: 16 11.3%
  • Over 50 and cut

    Votes: 31 21.8%
  • Over 50 and uncut

    Votes: 14 9.9%
  • I can't tell whether I'm cut or uncut

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    142
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

wot it say?

thankyou

if folk wash hands guess wot?
wen media ans overstuff uni doodoo eva figa over dun doodoo

thankyou
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

.
I think its all about hygiene.
I'm against circumcision but with foreskin you take more time to clean properly and use more water.

Believe it or not, no one teach me how to clean my foreskin when i was young.
My foreskin stank with dick cheese :lol: but now i know how to clean.
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

am i supposed to give a shit? i'm not going to feel bad about my body because some doctors or you have something against skin that's naturally on dicks. my dick is uncircumcised and i plan on keeping it til the day i die. go ahead and judge me for it. if you like your dicks that are cut, that's fine BUT quit shoving down this notion where you're going to have everyone thinking like you and have people like me ashamed of what i have. how you going to be for something that isn't even natural to begin with? stop. it's funny how people could be against something that they were born with. if being uncut was bad, why are we born with foreskin in the first place? enough with the uncut dick hate already.
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

It doesn't jibe with my beliefs, so I choose to believe their research is faulty.

Lex
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

how you going to be for something that isn't even natural to begin with? stop.

:lol:

Really not even here for this topic, and don't have issue with your opinions here... But just one question, is your keyboard made of plastic?
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

It's not exactly pertinent to the article (although it was mentioned briefly), but one thing I've never understood is the use of 'religious purposes' as justification for the procedure. I mean, we're all atheists at birth, aren't we? I wouldn't want a permanent mark of my parents' religion on my body, particularly if it wasn't something I grew up to believe in myself.

Either way, the circumcision debate always tends to be saturated with loaded terms and veiled (or even overt) personal attacks such as 'mutilation' and 'ant-eater dick'. Nobody on either side wants to feel inferior because of their penis, and so they dispute with passion. As Lex insinuated, a bias is often apparent.

I feel as if the article is a little vague though (is this reasonable or am I being biased?). I want to read about how they came to these conclusions, not just that they came to them. Does the idea that circumcision can reduce STD transmission really mean the benefits outweigh the risks? The chances of me contracting HIV or HPV are infinitesimal simply because of my attitude towards sex; being cut would have absolutely zero impact on that for me.

Am I missing a link to the study itself?
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

:lol:

Really not even here for this topic, and don't have issue with your opinions here... But just one question, is your keyboard made of plastic?

what???? :confused:
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

It's not exactly pertinent to the article (although it was mentioned briefly), but one thing I've never understood is the use of 'religious purposes' as justification for the procedure. I mean, we're all atheists at birth, aren't we? I wouldn't want a permanent mark of my parents' religion on my body, particularly if it wasn't something I grew up to believe in myself.

Either way, the circumcision debate always tends to be saturated with loaded terms and veiled (or even overt) personal attacks such as 'mutilation' and 'ant-eater dick'. Nobody on either side wants to feel inferior because of their penis, and so they dispute with passion. As Lex insinuated, a bias is often apparent.

I feel as if the article is a little vague though (is this reasonable or am I being biased?). I want to read about how they came to these conclusions, not just that they came to them. Does the idea that circumcision can reduce STD transmission really mean the benefits outweigh the risks? The chances of me contracting HIV or HPV are infinitesimal simply because of my attitude towards sex; being cut would have absolutely zero impact on that for me.

Am I missing a link to the study itself?

No, all babies are NOT atheist nor religious. They just know nothing.
Atheist means non believer ( after a long long study of religion)
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

benifits a cummin good
or woteva word sicientif fa cock spit
if worlds great researchins supa papa no dun it
it not ya nose runnin
# wipe #
-ooh silly nosey-
# 3 ooh wot pretty picture wot is it? #
_ it square - see it go up here ans dat way ans down ans dat away ans
# it fins then? #
_ nah gonna fill it up wit lot a square until it all square _
# wot gonna call it? #
ROUND
# dat nice *
thankyou

if hold on da cum there benifts too but folk alway in rush haaaa
* who ben? *
he fit one
# ooh is seeee #
@ ben fit ben fit ben fit ben fit *
! fit hot aint he !
@ fit ben fit ben fit ben @
got a rymins goins
! wot harpan get lot ben fits ? !
dunno perpetuals motion ?
# until tea break #
wot dat?
# no idea #
@ ooh wanna break ice got sum juicys @
# ooh okay #
! is not furit a so sumthang !
thanks ta da bees
-DA BEEEEEESSSSS-
wot afta B?
! C !
-COOOOOOOR-
SSSSSSSH"

point sumwhere is sure

thankyou

^ which specs we use fa make wheel? ^
got mountians of um wot a like?
^ sumthang wot round ^
well now ya got chooiceeys 2934368346386 specs fa round
# wot dat? #
D - lot round in um
# try one please #
dat one way ta roll
# keep it a think #
" wot E got? "
ooh lot a thangs but wot e wanna?
" try one in C "
okay

ha

benfit benfit fitbenfitben fitfitfitbenbenben
- lot a folk call fit ans ben -
maybe cause all see benfit ans luv umso
- yea see dat thankyou -

eva think cheese escape da moon?
^ yea wen great folk discova their cheese ^

this was nice wall
! Kool !
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

There may well be benefits, but I'd like to to see that stats on penile cancers in uncircumcised kids in order to see how beneficial it truly is.

I mean, if it's 1 in 1000 and cutting reduces that risk by an order of magnitude or two, they're onto something. If it's 1 in a million or less... I don't think it's a concern. Presumably by the time STDs become an issue, the kid should be old enough to decide for himself whether he wants it done.

-d-
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

No, all babies are NOT atheist nor religious. They just know nothing.
Atheist means non believer ( after a long long study of religion)

Semantics.

None of us subscribe to any organised religion at birth.

You knew perfectly well what I intended to say.
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

Pla--ezzzzze , I read this also a few days ago too and thought what a crack of BS.....and I'm cut. They should just leave those foreskins alone..
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

I don't have an interest in discussing whether or not this was prudent, I merely stand here to provide information.

sources?

the wikipedia entry has quite different numbers. and it has sources ..
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

I think "hygiene" is one of those "reality has two faces" moments.

Guys who have problem foreskins think "Wow, I'd be a lot less sore and tender down there, and frankly fresh, if I could just get a circumcision" and they do, and sure enough they're right. So as far as they're concerned it "proves" that circumcision works.

While guys with healthy foreskins that have no problem washing themselves are thinking "Are you crazy? Why would I chop off a problem-free part of my body? Hygiene - grab a fucking washcloth!" So as far as they're concerned it is "obvious" that circumcision is worthless.

But that's like telling someone "No, you should never have your tonsils out. Mine are just fine, therefore yours are too." Well, I needed my tonsils out, I got them out as an adult, and I'm better off. I don't regret it. I don't feel mutilated. I am actually healthier. Some guys probably are better off getting circumcised.

The only issue I have is the idea it should be done without a baby's consent if there is no obvious medical problem. I doubt the journal would say "Let's just give every baby a tonsillectomy. Just in case."
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

In third world/unsanitary conditions, it almost certainly would reduce the rates of disease. Since I did some indepth studies on the topic, I can shed some light on the matter.

Victorians did promote the practice as a method of discouraging masturbation, but contrary to popular belief, the practice of circumcision did not become widespread. By 1940, only 10% of the American male population had a circumcised penis. If one takes into account the population of Muslims and Jews in the population that year, the number of newly-circumcised males seems small indeed.

The real quantum leap took place during WW2. Doctors noticed that in the unsanitary conditions in wartime trenches, infection rates skyrocketed, and became quite pandemic. This observation fueled an interest by the medical profession to a new look at the procedure as a preventative measure.

Widespread circumcision in the United States did not begin until after the war, directly as a result of those Wartime studies. Dr. Benjamin Spock promoted the idea in groundbreaking book in 1950, and the medical community quickly followed. In my generation (I was born in 1962) fully 80% (or more, in certain areas) of American babies were routinely circumcised.

I don't have an interest in discussing whether or not this was prudent, I merely stand here to provide information.

Thank you very much for that info. I have always been intrigued as to when it became prevalent in the US and why it did. Your info has filled in some gaps.

Interestingly it is still uncomon in the UK apart from in certain religions, so I was always interested as to why the US was different. It would be interesting to know why the UK didn't "convert" to the extent that the US did. Is it still around 80% in the US? Do each individual set of parents make the decision or is it more or less automatic? Presumably parents have to at least give consent.
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

I think circumcision was a plot by the lube manufacturing companies since they knew cut guys would need it.
 
Re: Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

I think "hygiene" is one of those "reality has two faces" moments.

Guys who have problem foreskins think "Wow, I'd be a lot less sore and tender down there, and frankly fresh, if I could just get a circumcision" and they do, and sure enough they're right. So as far as they're concerned it "proves" that circumcision works.

While guys with healthy foreskins that have no problem washing themselves are thinking "Are you crazy? Why would I chop off a problem-free part of my body? Hygiene - grab a fucking washcloth!" So as far as they're concerned it is "obvious" that circumcision is worthless.

But that's like telling someone "No, you should never have your tonsils out. Mine are just fine, therefore yours are too." Well, I needed my tonsils out, I got them out as an adult, and I'm better off. I don't regret it. I don't feel mutilated. I am actually healthier. Some guys probably are better off getting circumcised.

The only issue I have is the idea it should be done without a baby's consent if there is no obvious medical problem. I doubt the journal would say "Let's just give every baby a tonsillectomy. Just in case."

This is a great post.
Yes babies have to wait until they are adults and see if their foreskins need to be circumcised or not.
Most penis don't need circumcision but some do.
 
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