Oh No! It's Another Thread About Circumcision.

[Diavolos]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

It is just jewish bullshit. We are born like this and this is natural, there is not such thing as "uncut" it is either natural or mutilated.

Jews and muslims cut the foreskin for religion (which of course dates as back as pre-religious days when people at these humid and dirty areas had foreskin problems, while European climate was colder thus the skin not only didn't do any harm but also helped a lot).

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Dig a little history and you will find that what you do to your penis is perpetuating a habit that existed for a few thousands of years cause some people got ill penis due to dirt and humid environment. Welcome to the 21st century where you have soap and running clear water!!!

 

[johaninsc]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

It is just jewish bullshit. We are born like this and this is natural, there is not such thing as "uncut" it is either natural or mutilated.

Jews and muslims cut the foreskin for religion (which of course dates as back as pre-religious days when people at these humid and dirty areas had foreskin problems, while European climate was colder thus the skin not only didn't do any harm but also helped a lot).

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Dig a little history and you will find that what you do to your penis is perpetuating a habit that existed for a few thousands of years cause some people got ill penis due to dirt and humid environment. Welcome to the 21st century where you have soap and running clear water!!!

interesting


considering that this is your comment on your profile page

Being cut has nothing to do with hygiene! If you can't handle the soap daily don't blame it on foreskin!

You were just jewified and brainwashed by them so as to become like them!

 

[sixthson]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

Of course not. I am monogamous with my boyfriend of five years.

In another recent thread you claim to have an additional third party involved. So you are monogamous except when you aren't?

Still no need for condoms?

 

[frankfrank]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

He could open up a new restaurant.

One of the appetizers would be "I can't believe it's not calamari."

 

[frankfrank]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

If removing foreskin is a good prophylactic against STD's and some cancers, then all girls need to have mastectomies before the breasts develop, because without this procedure they are at great risk of breast cancer.

Invasive surgery is required, as well, to remove everybody's appendixes, because its only purpose is to become inflamed with life-threatening infections. (Proper plural for this, though it's appendices for the appendix that appears in books?)

Really, without doubt, the best way to prevent adult-onset cancers, multiple sclerosis, ALS, bad hair days, Alzheimer's, colitis, COPD, cirrhosis of the liver, and any number of other dangerous or life-threatening illnesses, is to kill the newborns. That will guarantee that the person will suffer none of these diseases or conditions in adulthood.

 

[Special K]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

Personally, I think that the debate regarding male circumcision has turned extremely vitriolic. Both sides are to blame in this increasingly bitter war of words. The fact of the matter is, that whilst male circumcision is undoubtedly an ethically and emotionally-charged issue, it is also a practice that dates back thousands of years, and it is clearly not going anywhere any time soon.

Also, those who have been circumcised for whatever reason, be it religious, cultural, medical or even cosmetic, estimated to be about one-third of males worldwide, should not be made to feel like mutilated freaks by members of the anti-circumcision movement, as is often the case (just read some of the comments in this thread for proof of that).

In addition, I was circumcised at birth and I do not feel that I have been affected by it to any great extent, however I still think that it should be left up to the individual to decide whether they wish to be circumcised or not. But ultimately, what's done is done, and I should not be made to feel like I need to be pitied because I have a circumcised penis by the more rabid members of the anti-circumcision movement, many of whom are just plain nasty if you ask me.

And for your information, I happen to like circumcised penises, which is not to say that I do not like uncircumcised penises, because I do, in that respect I am open-minded, unlike some people on this forum.

 

[frankfrank]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

I also don't have any issue with having been circumcised. Imagining the alternative, I actually prefer the way that I am, rather than having a foreskin...but that's just my own preference, nothing more.

 

[Kulindahr]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

He could open up a new restaurant.

One of the appetizers would be "I can't believe it's not calamari."

Gack.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

In another recent thread you claim to have an additional third party involved. So you are monogamous except when you aren't?

Still no need for condoms?

Hmmmm.....

 

[KaraBulut]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

Personally, I think that the debate regarding male circumcision has turned extremely vitriolic.

In H&W, we discuss latest research about circumcision and we have a few members who have been through adult circs who can speak to their experience having gone through the procedure. The politics and opinion stuff is more appropriate for Hot Topics for the exact reason that you've given- that it ends up with vitriol.

If removing foreskin is a good prophylactic against STD's and some cancers, then all girls need to have mastectomies before the breasts develop, because without this procedure they are at great risk of breast cancer.

Not to get too off-topic here.

Elective mastectomies are an option for women (not girls) who have certain genetic markers that increase their risk of breast cancer. Some women who have lost immediate family members to breast cancer. However, this is not all women- only those in high risk categories.

On the other hand, HPV is a big problem for women and gay men. Our studies are showing that most sexually active women of college age have been exposed to HPV. We also know that oral cancers traceable to HPV infection are now the largest percentage of oral cancers- and it's happening in a much younger population- women and men in their 30s to 50s. It is something to be concerned about.

He could open up a new restaurant.

One of the appetizers would be "I can't believe it's not calamari."

Gack.

The chef recommends the red sauce with that dish.

 

[Alnitak]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

It is just jewish bullshit. We are born like this and this is natural, there is not such thing as "uncut" it is either natural or mutilated.

Jews and muslims cut the foreskin for religion (which of course dates as back as pre-religious days when people at these humid and dirty areas had foreskin problems, while European climate was colder thus the skin not only didn't do any harm but also helped a lot).

~~~~~~~~~~

Dig a little history and you will find that what you do to your penis is perpetuating a habit that existed for a few thousands of years cause some people got ill penis due to dirt and humid environment. Welcome to the 21st century where you have soap and running clear water!!!

I am just Jewish bullshit.

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In another recent thread you claim to have an additional third party involved. So you are monogamous except when you aren't?

Still no need for condoms?

Okay it an exceptional case.

 

[Kulindahr]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

Elective mastectomies are an option for women (not girls) who have certain genetic markers that increase their risk of breast cancer. Some women who have lost immediate family members to breast cancer. However, this is not all women- only those in high risk categories.

Those markers are important. I think it was Discover magazine's medical article recently where I read of a family where every female in a couple of generations had gotten breast cancer, and a young woman was agonizing over whether to get a preventive operation. Fortunately, her doctor knew about the genetic markers, and urged her to get that test done before doing anything drastic. The results showed that she didn't have them.

The chef recommends the red sauce with that dish.

 

[mikey3000]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

I also don't have any issue with having been circumcised. Imagining the alternative, I actually prefer the way that I am, rather than having a foreskin...but that's just my own preference, nothing more.

This is JUB. You are not allowed to have a dissenting opinion on penises here, of either yours or others. You know better then that.

 

[frankfrank]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

Those markers are important. I think it was Discover magazine's medical article recently where I read of a family where every female in a couple of generations had gotten breast cancer, and a young woman was agonizing over whether to get a preventive operation.

The difference, though, is that she is ultimately making the decision.

With nearly all circumcisions, though, the "decision" is made by somebody else (almost always parents), well before the one being circumcised is old enough to make any decision at all.

 

[Kulindahr]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

The difference, though, is that she is ultimately making the decision.

With nearly all circumcisions, though, the "decision" is made by somebody else (almost always parents), well before the one being circumcised is old enough to make any decision at all.

It's just one of those judgment calls parents have to make, although there are hospitals where it's standard procedure.

 

[KaraBulut]

Re: Mayo Clinic rerpot: benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks

The difference, though, is that she is ultimately making the decision.

With nearly all circumcisions, though, the "decision" is made by somebody else (almost always parents), well before the one being circumcised is old enough to make any decision at all.

It's just one of those judgment calls parents have to make..

It is something that parents have to decide based upon a number of factors and it's a fairly safe and routine procedure in infants. Not so much in adults and having dealt with a few teenagers and adults who had it done- primarily for medical reasons but occasionally for cosmetic reasons- it wasn't much fun at all.

...although there are hospitals where it's standard procedure.

In the US, it always requires a consent from the parents or guardian. It is always done under local anesthesia (but not general anesthesia) in infants.

 

[Aron9000]

Why do we think its a good idea to circumcise men in this country??? United States BTW

Just curious as to what the medical history is behind this practice in the United States. Boys over in Europe and Asia sure aren't "cut".

I had a "circumcision related injury" today. I went on a long 5 mile run, forgot my compression briefs. I usually wear boxer shorts, except when I exercise, to prevent chafing.

Well, to use an old racist Native American medicine man metaphor: "Sharpened tip on the spear inflicts much pain". Now I'm not fully cut, and grateful for what foreskin I do have. IE it goes about 2/3rds down the head, maybe 7/8ths if its really cold. Still enough to leave the tip exposed, ie if the doctors hadn't mutilated my cock 30 years ago, I wouldn't be posting this nonsense.

So what is the reason all the boys in the US are circumcised before leaving the hospital? Why do we have a variation in the practice, ie I have most of my foreskin, yet some boys have absolutely none. Their cocks are horribly scarred by this practice, and any sort of intimate contact with their penis requires lube, otherwise its chafe/irritation city.

 

[kallipolis]

Re: Why do we think its a good idea to circumcise men in this country??? United States BTW

This topic has been discussed on this site countless times over the years with predictable results that register a deep division between supporters of circumcision, and those who believe that mutilation of the penis should be avoided...whilst, also recognising that there may well be a need for circumcision that remedies a foreskin issue....such as paraphimosis.

Not all American boys are circumcised before leaving hospital.....it would be interesting if someone could cite official figures from a credible site....indicating what percentage of boys are circumcised each year in the United States.

 

[medic1]

Re: Why do we think its a good idea to circumcise men in this country??? United States BTW

We do not routinely [STRIKE]mutilate[/STRIKE] circumcise baby boys in the UK, unless it is a medical necessity.

I have seen some horrific circumcision scars, totally uncalled for, IMO.

This myth of being far more healthy and clean, is just that, a myth.....

 

[Benvolio]

Re: Why do we think its a good idea to circumcise men in this country??? United States BTW

We do not routinely [STRIKE]mutilate[/STRIKE] circumcise baby boys in the UK, unless it is a medical necessity.

I have seen some horrific circumcision scars, totally uncalled for, IMO.

This myth of being far more healthy and clean, is just that, a myth.....

Actually, studies show that uncircumcised males are more likely to get a std, especially HIV. The skin of the head and inner foreskin are much thinner in uncircumcised males and microscopic scratches and tears provide an opening for the virus. Circumcision has been advocated for a partial solution to the HIV problem in Africa. Wikipedia has a summary of the studies under Circumcision and HIV.
But it should be said that in the US the continuance of the practise is in large part esthetic. Fathers who grew up with themselves and their friends being circumcised tend to think it looks better etc, and are inclined to accept the belief that it is healthier.