Once Again...the World moves on without the US

[rareboy]

186 countries and the EU have signed on to the Basel Convention, aimed at controlling and reducing plastic waste.

The most notable exception.

The US.

Canadians have become more aware of this international crisis this past month when it was revealed that nearly one hundred containers of plastic waste that were purchased by a private contractor and shipped to the Phillipines last year were, in fact, mixed garbage. After the situation was made very public by Duterte, Canada has quickly moved to have this mess removed back to our shores.

The whole 2nd and 3rd world is literally choking on 1st world garbage.

Time to put pressure on the US legislature to join the convention.

https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...z4NpxYQ9DOaXtTBBdLZOEP91fo#Echobox=1557561641

 

[mikey3000]

How about we put pressure on the manufacturers to reduce unnecessary, excess packaging. Why always hold the consumers responsible?

 

[rareboy]

^ You answered your own question. Consumers are responsible because we keep buying over packaged goods and single use plastics and aren't putting pressure on the manufacturers.

 

[smokeshadow]

^^another question that's begged For example, you order another ram stick for your computer. Why do online retailers insist on packaging that stick in a hard plastic sleeve, then wrap it in inflatable plastic "bubble wrap" and then put it inside an even larger cardboard box (probably measuring in the neighborhood of 12 inches x 8 inches x 2 inches) before shipping; when a heavy duty, padded envelope not much larger than a #10 business envelope should be sufficient.

 

[TX-Beau]

^^another question that's begged For example, you order another ram stick for your computer. Why do online retailers insist on packaging that stick in a hard plastic sleeve, then wrap it in inflatable plastic "bubble wrap" and then put it inside an even larger cardboard box (probably measuring in the neighborhood of 12 inches x 8 inches x 2 inches) before shipping; when a heavy duty, padded envelope not much larger than a #10 business envelope should be sufficient.

It's probably cheaper to limit the customization in the shipping materials than it is to provide boxes and packaging over a huge range of specifications.

 

[mikey3000]

I say tax the manufacturers for not reducing THEIR packaging, not the people who have no choice in their packaging. Easy peasy.

 

[opinterph]

186 countries and the EU have signed on to the Basel Convention, aimed at controlling and reducing plastic waste.

Basel Convention [Wiki]

Parties to the Basel Convention: (shown in blue)

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The most notable exception [to countries that have signed on to the Basel Convention]

The US.

It appears that we are waiting on the US Congress.

The United States signed the Basel Convention in 1990 and the Senate gave its advice and consent to ratification in 1992, but before the President can ratify the treaty, implementing legislation is required. The United States supports ratification of the Convention, but to date no implementing legislation has been enacted.

Why hasn't the United States ratified the Basel Convention? (United States Environmental Protection Agency)

 

[TX-Beau]

I say tax the manufacturers for not reducing THEIR packaging, not the people who have no choice in their packaging. Easy peasy.

Passing new taxes is easy?

 

[mikey3000]

Well ya'll swallowed that carbon tax crap hook line and sinker.

 

[johaninsc]

I say tax the manufacturers for not reducing THEIR packaging,

mmhmm...and a clue in the rest of your post gives an idea of who will ultimately pay that tax


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the people who have no choice in their packaging. Easy peasy.

 

[smokeshadow]

I say tax the manufacturers for not reducing THEIR packaging, not the people who have no choice in their packaging. Easy peasy.

All one has to do is get that by the SBA, the local, state and national Chambers of Commerce, the people and/or companies that manufacturer the single use plastic bags that everyone is trying to get banned but state legislators are balking at doing so, the manufacturers of cardboard boxes, bubble wrap, shrink wrap and other packaging materials. . .but I think you can get the idea that it isn't so "easy peasy"

 

[rareboy]

I say tax the manufacturers for not reducing THEIR packaging, not the people who have no choice in their packaging. Easy peasy.

Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Who do you think pays the tax in the end?

 

[rareboy]

Basel Convention [Wiki]

Parties to the Basel Convention: (shown in blue)

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It appears that we are waiting on the US Congress.

Well, perhaps there is hope? Although will the Senate pass it? Will TrumpCo. sign it?

 

[opinterph]

Well, perhaps there is hope? Although will the Senate pass it? Will TrumpCo. sign it?

The congress is not motivated.

The Federal government of the United States is the largest producer of electronic waste on the planet.

Petition: Federal agencies must stop exporting their toxic e-waste to developing countries (Basel Action Network; c., Obama Admin)