ONLY white models??

[PhunkSpunk]

obviously corbin fisher cater to the types who likes white "all american" men

Considering that our little American Experiment would have never taken root but for the toil of African Slaves, to my mind black men are about as 'All-American' as you can get (in addition to being incredibly hawt!)

 

[Sagitarius]

Considering that our little American Experiment would have never taken root but for the toil of African Slaves, to my mind black men are about as 'All-American' as you can get (in addition to being incredibly hawt!)

did you not just see the "All American" in quotation marks???

 

[SurfBoy18]

It all boils down to supply and demand

If enough people voice their needs and wants - Im sure the site owners will either add some ethnic dudes or start a new site.

Whatever they're doing now is obviously working. Neva try to fix sumthin that aint broke!

 

[wanderer]

Playboy magazine makes every effort to not feature models with breat implants, and their spreads (pardon the pun) have to be of "good taste" as in not hardcore. they go for the "perfect" female figure, and the long hair mostly and so on and so on, and they occasionally feature the beautiful women of color. most of the readers of playboy are white middleclass, and their reading demographic dictates what is in the magazine all based on feedback through sales.

CF and other sites go after a particular taste/category in men and cater to that market.

they are selling a product, which is different than a business deciding not to feature a certain race in advertisements.

yet another example....the restaurant Hooters (for those across the pond, Hooters is a chain of middle quality food and bar that feature busty women in tight clothes serving drinks) their product is the eye candy and then the food. their product is the eye candy. after men tried to sue because they felt Hooters wasnt an equal opportunity employer, the courts ruled in Hooter's favor, citing that their image and product is of sexy women, and the patrons go there to see this product.

and there you have it, even as the law defines it, there is a subtle difference between "equal opportunity" in terms of employemnt, and of equal representation in terms of a product, where such equal representation is not necessary because it is a product that is being sold to a particular taste/like.

 

[wanderer]

if we further wittle the topic down to the morality of "product colors" i should make the effort to say that morality itself is relative to the individual. what i may think of as moral you may not, and vice versa. I may think watching porn is just as common as eating ice cream. but Jerry Fallwall would call porn immoral.

i would personally not question the morality of the white studly college age product CF is selling, however i would not discount you or your opinion either, because you have provoked some thought.

I would also like to point out that for the same reason that CF does not feature women in its site, it does not feature anything other than the "white studly college age" dudes. a site and its authors cannot feasibly be the provider of every individual's fantasy and taste, it would be too dificult. instead, they can focus on a niche and go from there. similar to most magazines out there.

 

[KURT10677]

wanderer,

i hear what youre saying, but your comment speaks to what is legal in this country. im speaking more to what is moral. SC has a right not to hire black models (note: in my original comment, i was merely expressing an opinion, not calling for the downfall of the site) but i dont believe SC is morally respectable.

to extend the metaphor again. i believe a company has a moral obligation not to fire an employee based solely upon their sexual orientation. even though firing someone because theyre gay is legal in many states, most people find it morally reprehensible, therefore i believe it shouldnt be done.

would you agree?

If your so upset with SC stop looking at it shit , all this bullshit is just stupid . If I didnt like a website I would just stop going on it.
Like I said some people just need attention , why dont you just sit in room and write a letter to get out your anger management issues and demons .

 

[KURT10677]

did you not just see the "All American" in quotation marks???

Your the only one speaking real about this matter , thanks

 

[davy]

what does liking a specific type of porn or specific type of men have to do with equality????


again this is porn

if your gonna say Corbin fisher must show men of all races

then they also need to show men of all ages(legal) of all sizes of all shapes

but obviously nobody is going to corbin fisher to look at guys with beer bellies fuck

why dont corbin fisher aint showing men that are 50???

i guess they're prejudiceed againt old men and men who are not atheltic also huh

actually, i LOVE to see big bellies on guys, and i've found men older than 50 who i thought were hot enough to date; but that's another topic.

but yes, corbin fisher holds a prejudice about these guys because he automatically assumes that there's nothing sexually appealing about them.

beliefs held about a group of people + that group of people = prejudice

...again porn sites dont have to cater to everybody...

...
...a site and its authors cannot feasibly be the provider of every individual's fantasy and taste, it would be too dificult. instead, they can focus on a niche and go from there. similar to most magazines out there.

no one's asking them to cater to everyone's taste. we (or at least i) want to see them stop re-enforcing stereotypes. i know, with absolutely certainty, that there are studly, all american, black or latino or even asian frat boys, but they their not in corbin fisher movies.

the VERY simple act of occasionally using one of those black, latino or asian frat boys would help IMMENSLY to dispel the stereotyping that corbin fisher (and other like him) is perpetuating.

and the best part is, they can still supply the same product for their niche market.

 

[davy]

If your so upset with SC stop looking at it shit , all this bullshit is just stupid . If I didnt like a website I would just stop going on it.
Like I said some people just need attention , why dont you just sit in room and write a letter to get out your anger management issues and demons .

if i didn't like these websites, i wouldn't bother.

people don't bother trying to make the things they don't like any better.... they just ignore them.

 

[wastingmymind]

if your gonna say Corbin fisher must show men of all races

then they also need to show men of all ages(legal) of all sizes of all shapes

but obviously nobody is going to corbin fisher to look at guys with beer bellies fuck

why dont corbin fisher aint showing men that are 50???

i guess they're prejudiceed againt old men and men who are not atheltic also huh

Despite the painful sentence structure you have a point.

Another point that may have been touched at is the "ethnic-specific" sites like latinjocks. I'm not sure whether they are taking steps forwards or backwards since diversity in sexual tastes can also mean fetishism. And racial fetishism's just as bad as discrimination. But then both terms are sort of the name of the game. All I'm saying is everyone is screwed.

 

[wanderer]

great point "wastingmymind".

i think CF is just like latinjocks.com in that both are catering to their niche markets. if either added to their mix, they wouldnt really be who they say they are. if latinjocks.com added guys other than latinos, or guys that didnt fit the jock type, they wouldnt be latinjocks.com.

if playboy featured guys, they wouldnt be playboy.

and (from what iv learned from recent JUB home page galleries) if you dont piss all over yourself, then you cant be on guyspissing.com.

 

[wanderer]

^^ well you do have a point there. now if they changed their name to CF:white college guys, and started featuring only white guys, would you have any problem with that? i suppose it would be their defined product then.

but since you mention them only being "straight collge studs" i dont really see a reason not to have guys other than white guys. you said you were a CF member right? why dont you email them and see what they say?

 

[Uknakedmen]

www.UKNakedMen.com seems to have more diversity than most

Thanks for noticing! We take great pride in the diversity of our men.




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[kayman23]

^^ well you do have a point there. now if they changed their name to CF:white college guys, and started featuring only white guys, would you have any problem with that? i suppose it would be their defined product then.

but since you mention them only being "straight collge studs" i dont really see a reason not to have guys other than white guys. you said you were a CF member right? why dont you email them and see what they say?

I think the problem with only categorizing of "college studs" is that it should mean any male of fits the criteria of being college-age, attractive, and male. It shouldn't equate to just a white guy. I'm not even talking about websites like Corbin Fisher specifically.

If any gay-oriented porn website is using the categorization of "college studs" it should be any attractive male (regardless of skin color or ethnicity) or appears to be within the age range 18-25. It seems that gay porn companies assume that all "college studs" are either of European or Anglo-Saxon descent which is far from the truth.

 

[DMich]

How did asking for just a little bit more diversity get equated with asking for equal representation? I like both sites but I think they would be even better with a little diversity. I can't imagine that you guys whose dicks strivel up at the first sight of a naked black, latino or asian guy would cancel your subscription if the sites did slightly better than maybe 2 people per site in five years. But im over this. Many things in America are segregated and people of color are ghettoized as it is, why should gay porn be any different!?

 

[Bi-Focal]

You are asking these websites to add some men of color to add "variety and diversity" to their model line-up.

Isn't that the same as asking these websites to add a few chicks for "variety and diversity"?

You wouldn't be surprised if gay guys objected to the sight of the female form on these sites. They're not misogynists ... they're happy to have females as friends ... they just don't want tits and vaginas in their porn.

Similarly, many people would object to seeing black guys on these sites too. This doesn't mean they are racist, it's just that men of color do not turn them on sexually and they'd rather not have them on their fantasy sites ... sites that they pay for. Nor in their porn magazines and DVDs.

Why is it that people don't get that?

 

[Kelgorus]

/sigh
This argument is still going on?!
If you don't like the site, don't pay for it.
If you really feel that strongly about it, e-mail them.
If they don't respond just suck it up and find another website to get off to.
:\
They are aiming at a certain audience, if you are not a part of the audience they are trying to please than WHY are you paying to get onto that site?!

 

[SilverRRCloud]

Guys,

I am all for the freedom of speech and the joy of debate here. However, please, make sure that you do not resort to calling names, flaming, baiting and other major 'no dos' as specified in the JUB's Code of Conduct.

SC

 

[Pan-Am]

comparing gender is a LOT different than comparing race. gender is physiological -- race is merely skin deep.

Are you serious?

 

[twinkforcum]

i don't think there is a big market there for black guys unless they are really hung