Quote: I wasn't bashing jnsessions... I was posting my personal opinion on why I feel the "open" relationships are unhealthy....
This has nothing to do with being close-minded... as a matter of fact I think were a little more open minded for having the ability to see things a bit more maturely than other people....
Actually, you're dumping all over jnsessions. Very odd that you think you are not.
And as for being a "little more open minded", where did you get that? No one is forcing an open relationship on anyone else. For those of us who live in open, mature, healthy loving relationships, nothing could be more natural.
If monogamy is essential to your relationship, well that's your business. But let me tell you, it doesn't make it any better or more loving than mine or jnsessions.
I'm curious, are you currently in a monogamous relationship? Have you ever been in one?[/quote]
While yes I admit to a little bashing previously ... and to be honest it wasn't meant to be bashing it just escalated because my feelings were wounded... (see previous posts)
BUT....
the post that RRRAlph quoted wasn't meant to be a bash at all ... It was me stating my opinion on "open" relationships..... as simple as that... As I pointed out throughout.... I prefaced nearly half of it with a great big bold IMHO.... meaning In My Humble Opinion...
As far as I am concerned...and again this is my opinion... if a person were mature they would be able to handle commitment....again...
my opinion....
As far as my own relationships go ...all 3 have been monogamous.... When I came to the realization that it just wasn't going anywhere...when I realized that the desire that both had for one another or that one had for another was gone... I was mature enough to call it off before feelings could be hurt....
To me.... if I was dating someone...and they asked for our relationship to be "open" it means there isn't much of a relationship beyond friends with benefits... if thats all I am to that person then thats where it ends....
When I love someone... I don't need anyone else... I don't desire anyone else...the thought of having sex with someone else in a serious fashion is furthest from my mind....
Sure I may look at other men at the bar... I may watch a little porn.... but that is where I draw the line...
We humans are carnal creatures by nature... its instinct to go spread our seed to all willing participants... however we are human with human emotions... and in order to rise above that of a common animal it is imperative that we subdue our basest desires for the sake of love....
It's what separates us from the animals....
I for one know that I am mature enough to be able to subdue my base animal instincts... I am mature enough to be able to see the difference between real love and animalistic needs.....
To be honest ...and again this is
my opinion... When I see 2 people who claim to be in an "open" relationship... what I see is 2 people who are desperatly clinging to the notion that there must be someone in their life in order for them to be whole... I see 2 people who are staying together out of co-dependancy and neediness rather than real love....
The reason I see this is because I watched it happen time and again to a friend of mine.... and this is where I drew my conclusions...
He couldn't accept that fact that he didn't
HAVE to be in a relationship to be whole that he could be his own person ...yet time and again he would enter into a relationship and 3 months down the road it would be"open" and 3 months after that it would be closed again and another 3 months would pass before it would be "open" again and before you knew it the relationship would be over....
he still can't accept this and he still fights this endless circle of destruction to himself and those he dates....
His immaturity is where I draw my conclusions.... is where I base some of my
opinions
As far as I am concerned I think we can all agree to disagree on this subject...
as far as being close-minded comes in... When I see something that is obviously destructive.... and "open" relationships are destructive.... (simply because the only 100% proven ways to prevent getting STD's is through monogamy and abstinance) than I will gladly remain close minded on this subject... I have seen the destruction it causes first hand and no one can undo that in my mind.....