Percentage of homosexuals in the world

[pocketpool]

How can this be measured? The vast majority of homosexuals around the world lie.

Assurance of anonymity in polling helps to assure honest responses. Better would be physiological measures such as blood flow to the genitals or fMRI brain scans during participant exposure to various forms of sexual and non-sexual imagery.

 

[bulge]

@ pocketpool


Anomymity doesn't garantee a trustworthy result as guys get life long drill, training and brainwashing into str8ness from youth: in their family, through Hollywood making females the things to be desired, through the perverse link between virility and str8ness (the very worst link ever as the only thing guys want is precisely virility; one even wonders whether they don't just become str8 through and because of the most gay virility worship ever), etc, etc, etc,............ Guys are totally and purposely misled about themselves. Otherwise outing to oneself wouldn't be necessary.

The only way is to administer guys a substance freeing them from all above societal perversities and to electronically measure cock reactions to specific porn.

 

[bulge]

The best guess is:

10% core homosexuals

10% core heterosexuals

80% more or less bisexuals who all tend to say even anonymously (societal training ) they are str8.

 

[EuphoricEmil]

I say the percentage thing is BS. Especially since the number of openly gay/bi men are increasing throughout the years. There is still a goldmine of gay men in this world that is still in the closet, and deny it diehardedly. There is definately a larger peice of the world's population that is gay/bi. Probably around 1/3 to even 1/2. As long as gay bashing, gay execution, and religious pressure is involved we won't see a large portion of that percentage unfold for a while. I know if I lived in a place like Jamaica or Saudi Arabia, where gays get executed and hunted like sport, I'd definitely keep my sexual intentions hidden.

 

[RobinGoodfellow]

I guess the obvious stupid questions are:

1) How does anyone justify a better than, say, 25% of the population is more than a 2 on the Kinsey scale? I'm looking at someone who has had maybe one or two homosexual encounters (ie, gay sex that went all the way and not just a crush) in their life, but is basically straight.

2) Given the biological imperative to mate, and therefore something that ensure that the human population is generally straight, any idea what percentage of the population needs to be straight, or at least mostly so, in order to perpetuate the species?

3) How exactly are we defining "gay"? Given that a 7year-old, who was presumably not engaging in sexual intercourse, was permitted to say he was gay, there need to be some limits on the idea. Also, should we count as gay someone who just grabs sex wherever he or she can get it, making some people go for whatever is near just to have sex without really caring about the sex of that person (ie, college Freshmen, prisoners, and some congressmen)? Should we consider crushes signs of homosexuality, or just hormones? Just curious what the limits on this are.....

RG

 

[freefall]

The newest study said it was about 10-15%. However, I'd believe the number could be higher, as there are many people who are closeted.

 

[RobinGoodfellow]

Er....which newest study? That's at least triple the previous one, and I'm really not sure I would trust a study with that wide of a range....

RG

 

[freefall]

^Read my post until the very end, okay?

 

[bulge]

I guess the obvious stupid questions are:

1) How does anyone justify a better than, say, 25% of the population is more than a 2 on the Kinsey scale? I'm looking at someone who has had maybe one or two homosexual encounters (ie, gay sex that went all the way and not just a crush) in their life, but is basically straight.

2) Given the biological imperative to mate, and therefore something that ensure that the human population is generally straight, any idea what percentage of the population needs to be straight, or at least mostly so, in order to perpetuate the species?

3) How exactly are we defining "gay"? Given that a 7year-old, who was presumably not engaging in sexual intercourse, was permitted to say he was gay, there need to be some limits on the idea. Also, should we count as gay someone who just grabs sex wherever he or she can get it, making some people go for whatever is near just to have sex without really caring about the sex of that person (ie, college Freshmen, prisoners, and some congressmen)? Should we consider crushes signs of homosexuality, or just hormones? Just curious what the limits on this are.....

RG

1) Anyone having 2 sexual encounters M2M is at the very least endowed with the M2M gift. The M2M gift means you can as a male be sexually attracted to males. If you are not endowed with this gift you will NEVER NEVER NEVER have a sexual encounter whatsoever, lack of women or no lack of women. When a guy has a M2M encounter, he is clearly endowed with the gift.2) 99,99999999999999999999.......% of sperm doesn't land in vagina. And the rest landing in it not always gives offspring. So, the need for heterosexuality is utterly relative. Morover we are very lucky only so few gives offspring as overpopulation will kill the planet Earth whatsoever. All those breeders desserve a kick in the nuts.3) NEVER NEVER NEVER define "gay". The concept originated in a biased society. The only thing that matters is M2M sexual desire. You must find a method making men able to fully speak about their sexual attractions. The first precondition is killing all homophobia, raising guys in a society where M2M and M2F desire are perfect equals, but society is not ready for it as it perfectly knows M2M desire is as strong(er) as (than) M2F desire in guys.

 

[RobinGoodfellow]

^Read my post until the very end, okay?

I did. The only study I've seen that posited more than low single digits was the Kinsey report, which is where the 10% figure originated from. Ergo, asking which report you were referring to was a legitimate question. Care to provide a link?

RG

 

[RobinGoodfellow]

1) If you are not endowed with this gift you will NEVER NEVER NEVER have a sexual encounter whatsoever, lack of women or no lack of women. When a guy has a M2M encounter, he is clearly endowed with the gift.

Welcome to the inherent flaw of the Kinsey Report. I'd seriously debate that even a couple of gay encounters makes a person gay. You need to allow for some form of curiosity, as well as allowing that sometimes people are attracted to those well outside their type. However, those rare encounters should not define the person any more than eating cheese at an art opening defines the person as a cheese-lover...

2) 99,99999999999999999999.......% of sperm doesn't land in vagina. And the rest landing in it not always gives offspring. So, the need for heterosexuality is utterly relative.

Obligatory: HUH? Nice dodge, if nothing else.

[/QUOTE]raising guys in a society where M2M and M2F desire are perfect equals, but society is not ready for it as it perfectly knows M2M desire is as strong(er) as (than) M2F desire in guys.[/QUOTE]
No one is questioning that they are equal. However, I sincerely doubt that any sustainable society is going to be primarily homosexual, or even bi. Not trying to be homophobic by any means, just making the observation that a sustainable population needs more hets than homos. It's obviously more complicated than that, especially as some scientists see more homos in groups that need some sort of brake on the population, and others see having a gay uncle is definitely an advantage in raising kids. Just curious what the ratio should be, especially if we are looking at it as a percentage....

RG

 

[AngelFromAbove]

No one is questioning that they are equal. However, I sincerely doubt that any sustainable society is going to be primarily homosexual, or even bi. Not trying to be homophobic by any means, just making the observation that a sustainable population needs more hets than homos. It's obviously more complicated than that, especially as some scientists see more homos in groups that need some sort of brake on the population, and others see having a gay uncle is definitely an advantage in raising kids. Just curious what the ratio should be, especially if we are looking at it as a percentage....

RG

It's completely possible for a sustainable society to be primarily homosexual or bisexual. There would have to be more of a conscious effort to procreate, possibly, if the society were primarily homosexual than bisexual.

 

[tonyboy]

Has anyone read/saw a study that gives an approximate percentage of gay men in a population or in humans in general?

I have this number in my head: 10%. I may have heard it somewhere but I hope to have a more concrete study if it is available.

2%-3% worldwide

 

[bulge]

@RobinGoodfellow

The only flaw in the Kinsey reports is Kinsey couldn't believe his own eyes and diminished his own M2M sex results. For the rest the so-called flaws were found afterwards only by defensors of the str8 society myth. A couple of gay encounters doesn't make anone gay. The only thing you need to already have, is the necesssary talents to have those contacts and so you need to be endowed with M2M attraction in the first place to have those contacts, otherwise you would never have them. Curiosity my foot. I am not curious at all about females. I even don't want to know they exist.

Society can be organised at random on gay, str8 or bi lines witout any influence on birth rate. See animal kingdom. I already posted a link about it. Str8 society is a myth.

 

[Chuck69]

2%-3% worldwide

R U serious? I thought today people knew better. It's way higher than that!

 

[Ninja108]

I would say 7-10%

 

[aberro21]

you can't test for it and most people won't admit it. How can you possibly calculate percentages?

 

[88Jockstraps]

We will never know 100% because homophobia and biphobia is still huge worldwide. In my personal experience the percentage is probably around 20% to 25%.

 

[Level27]

I've read statistics that place homosexual males at 2-4% of the male pop. A further 6-8% of the male pop are heterosexual but have "enjoyed" minor, secondary sexual feelings for the same sex. (The "straight-bisexuals", or "heteroflexibles", were it.)

I'm guessing that that's where the inaccurately assigned 10% came from; it's from combining the gays and the heteroflexibles together. Back in the days, people assumed that if you ever had sex with a guy, that must mean you're gay or a closeted gay. This rendered the bisexual orientation of heteroflexibility invisible, but people didnt always know that back in those days.

(And then, to complicate things a bit further, "gay" is a combination of homoflexibles (some of whom identify more with bisexuality than homosexuality) and "pure" homosexuals. I personally contend that "pure" homosexual males are very rare, but regardless, it might be hard to etch out a specific % of "pures" and flexibles.)

 

[88Jockstraps]

I've read statistics that place homosexual males at 2-4% of the male pop. A further 6-8% of the male pop are heterosexual but have "enjoyed" minor, secondary sexual feelings for the same sex. (The "straight-bisexuals", or "heteroflexibles", were it.)

I'm guessing that that's where the inaccurately assigned 10% came from; it's from combining the gays and the heteroflexibles together. Back in the days, people assumed that if you ever had sex with a guy, that must mean you're gay or a closeted gay. This rendered the bisexual orientation of heteroflexibility invisible, but people didnt always know that back in those days.

(And then, to complicate things a bit further, "gay" is a combination of homoflexibles (some of whom identify more with bisexuality than homosexuality) and "pure" homosexuals. I personally contend that "pure" homosexual males are very rare, but regardless, it might be hard to etch out a specific % of "pures" and flexibles.)

I do believe the statistics, but only partly. The 3% and 10% are the two most used.

My 20 to 25% is more from real life experience. It's not from data. I guess we'll never really know. All I know is that there are lots of bisexual men in Hollywood and I'm happy it might be that way.

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I've read statistics that place homosexual males at 2-4% of the male pop. A further 6-8% of the male pop are heterosexual but have "enjoyed" minor, secondary sexual feelings for the same sex. (The "straight-bisexuals", or "heteroflexibles", were it.)

I'm guessing that that's where the inaccurately assigned 10% came from; it's from combining the gays and the heteroflexibles together. Back in the days, people assumed that if you ever had sex with a guy, that must mean you're gay or a closeted gay. This rendered the bisexual orientation of heteroflexibility invisible, but people didnt always know that back in those days.

(And then, to complicate things a bit further, "gay" is a combination of homoflexibles (some of whom identify more with bisexuality than homosexuality) and "pure" homosexuals. I personally contend that "pure" homosexual males are very rare, but regardless, it might be hard to etch out a specific % of "pures" and flexibles.)

I do believe the statistics, but only partly. The 3% and 10% are the two most used.

My 20 to 25% is more from real life experience. It's not from data. I guess we'll never really know. All I know is that there are lots of bisexual men in Hollywood and I'm happy it might be that way.