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P'nut the Squirrel -- NY seeing RED!

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There is much hubbub about the demise of poor Peanut (P'nut) the Squirrel, and the roiling of an internet cult following over some 550,000. The owner had "rescued" the young squirrel some seven years ago, but never got a permit to keep a wild animal. Complaints followed and eventually NY State's DEC took action and seized the animal and an unpermitted raccoon and apparently euthanized them to test for rabies.

Didn't read up many articles to see what the state's side of the issue was, but the animals were unpermitted, so it was possible the state was indeed making an example out of scofflaws.

FWIW, squirrels live about six years in captivity, and this one was seven. It's also noteworthy that the owner has started a GoFundMe to apparently make hay even with his moneymaker gone.

https://www.tmz.com/2024/11/01/peanut-the-squirrel-seized-killed-new-york-owner-rips-state/

Meanwhile the web's on fire with outraged political hacks and others, exploiting it for outrage or humor:

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The aforementioned pet:

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I'm having a hard time feeling the outrage, since any animal rights advocates should be just as outraged about the exploitation of a squirrel to make its owners internet income as anyone using a bobcat, wolf, or elephant to do the same.

Being cute doesn't change the animal from being wild. And the owners didn't attempt to get licensed or to turn it over to a rescue shelter. It looks a lot like plain old monetization.

Exploitation pretty much looks like exploitation.
 
For me the worst part is the the squirrel loses no matter what.

He was being exploited for social media clout. But when you boil it down at least his basic needs were being met and he was alive. I can think of many a legal pet that I have known to life a life of semi neglect. I even know human beings that live this way.

And then the poor thing gets euthanised by the authorities?

It just reeks of authority overreach. Because they obviously cared more about stopping these people from breaking rules than they did for the animals welfare.

As for Hardup’s point comparing the squirrel to a bobcat or elephant, yes they are all wild animals, but I think it’s reasonable to concede that the average home is probably much easier to set up to accomodate a squirrel rather than a wildcat.
 
For me the worst part is the the squirrel loses no matter what.

He was being exploited for social media clout. But when you boil it down at least his basic needs were being met and he was alive. I can think of many a legal pet that I have known to life a life of semi neglect. I even know human beings that live this way.

And then the poor thing gets euthanised by the authorities?

It just reeks of authority overreach. Because they obviously cared more about stopping these people from breaking rules than they did for the animals welfare.

As for Hardup’s point comparing the squirrel to a bobcat or elephant, yes they are all wild animals, but I think it’s reasonable to concede that the average home is probably much easier to set up to accomodate a squirrel rather than a wildcat.
It's really more about public health policy and the authority to protect the citizenry.

That would be the popular opinion about scofflaws here, but the health departments have real challenges with rabies-carrying species, and more, citizens who scoff at having to register animals. I didn't read enough to see where in NY the owner lived BEFORE he moved to the border of the state, but the fact that he kept the squirrel for seven years without licensing it means he absolutely knew it was required. There is no way this is the first time in seven years someone commented on his social media about it being wild and requiring a permit.

And, this resentment to health and safety codes is getting to be a real symptom of anachism here in the U.S. The idea that the government cannot control public health is growing, and so are outbreaks of measles and other preventable diseases that he have vaccines for.

Sure, it's sad that a living animal was put down for a public policy position, but many here find it far more sad that anyone sets himself up above the law. It's in the best interests of nature and humans for wild animals to not become pets, and especially rabies-carrying species like raccoons and squirrels. This citizen wasn't a child, and there are certainly shelters that would have taken in the squirrel, but he eschewed those and chose to monetize his "good works" for gain. It would be telling to learn his vocation, if any, or if he's merely living off of content creation.

As it is, it's easy for him to be on the side of the angels, but his pet's death ultimately rests on his shoulders for refusing to obey the law for the last seven years. If he does, then it oks he contempt for the neighbor with the cougar, and the other with the python, and the other with the bison. In a state the size of New York's populatiton, it's not about a harmless squirrel. It's about enforcing safety for the greater populace.

Where I grew up, squirrels are hunted, in season, as food, but no one would likely object to a squirrel being kept as pet IF registered and vaccinated. For anyone rerfusing to register their animals, the full weight of the law should be born on their owners, if not so harsh on the squirrel. No idea WHY the state did not simply turn over the animals to a shelter. I'm sure that will come out, after the hype.

Right now, we're only gonna get the election propaganda.

When I was a boy, my stepdad always had dogs at the house, and they were never vaccinated against rabies, frequently had worms and ticks, and were not well cared for. And it was common for poor men like him to do just that with their animals. It was telling that he also didn't pay child support for his other three sets of children, and he didn't have a legal driver's license, so he took back rows.

Scofflaws are often just like him, only less rural.
 
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Sadly, the owner has now raised $94k on GoFundMe, and I guarantee you it won't be spent on legal fees. Any lawyer taking his case will litigate on the basis of winning. This money will go for Mr. Longo's personal use, just as the monetized videos did.
 
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It was clear from the videos and the history of this squirrel and human interraction that P'Nut was beloved and very well cared for over his lifetime. I have followed them almost from the beginning.

It was pure evil to euthanize this animal.

And the complaints probably came from twisted motives and twisted minds.

But there probably are a lot of grim, sanctimonious people out there who feel some joy that his owners got what was coming to them and that the law prevails.

That'll teach them. eh?
 

New York authorities euthanize social media star Peanut the squirrel, age 7.

The orphaned squirrel that became a social media star called Peanut was euthanized
after New York authorities seized the beloved pet during a raid on his caretaker’s home, authorities said.
P`nut had been living in his home for over 7 years.

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Sure. We all long to see pets slaughtered ruthlessly. Health codes and safety are just a pretext so we can make poor little innocent 40-year-olds cry when they have to make rent until the State settles. Oh boy! Good times!
 
I know you’re employing a bit of the old hyperbole, but isn’t this just the truth of the issue?
No.

The issue of rejecting the law is still a very hot one in this country. We have barely emerged from the COVID crisis where people grew violent because they could not be compelled to comply with public health law or their employer's regulations, both deployed to stem an epidemic.

People became physically violent on MANY commercial flights. People came to work while contagious with COVID knowing they were contagious. People refused to mask to at least inhibit the amount of virus being ejected with breaths. And in these same cases, they raved against the goverment, including state leaders, while taking billions of dollars of compensation and then turned about later to complain about the economic impact of the money they had happily taken.

The issue of quarantines and public health law goes back a long way, before Typhoid Mary. In my 20's, NYC faced a serious crisis with addicts breeding tuberculosis. The State provided free prophylaxis and the addicts would not take it until it worked. So, the State provided a prophylaxis for the second strain that evolved. And the same thing happened. It continued to a third strain. Finally, a fourth strain evolved for which there was no treatment. Hospitals were creating isolated wings with separate air systems and controls to prevent the spread. Doctors and nurses and employees exposed during treatment were potentially exposed to a fatal incurable illness.

During that crisis, the government was forced to consider incarcerating the patients by force until they completed treatment for any of the advanced strains. They chose instead to send agents to deliver daily doses and witness them swallowed.

The problem with illegal pets is very real. Whether Peanut's demise is excessivve or not, and it sounds on the surface as though it was, the State absolutely SHOULD have thte right to control the keeping of livestock within its borders, be they commercially raised for slaughter for fur, such as minks, or for food, such as poultry, or for entertainmentt, such as pets. The State has an even higher right to protect species through hunting restrictitons and prohibitions against domestication.

The State also has mechanisms to provide for animals to be sheltered for exhibition and education or for protection. Mr. Longo had the responsibility and the obligaion to apply for such a permit to see if he qualified. He did not. He set himself up above the law and decided that the State had no right to limit his money making enterprise. If he had not used public sentiment to monetize his efforts, he likely would not have seen the State take action, becaue WHO would have known he had a squirrel, and then a raccoon, outside his intimate circle.

But he didn't do that. He chose to use it for a commercial purpose, to make income. And then, when finally prevented after seven years of ongoing violation, he used the same social media to wage war against the State.

Am I happy a squirrel was eithanized? No. I deliberately filll my bird feeders often enough to allow the daily raids of squirrels on my property because I like squirrels. But, some are killed by hawks, and porbably, some who sneak in during the night to feed are killed by the owl. And that doesn't make me sad at all. They lived a good life, and things die one way or another. In Peanut's case, it died after living a pampered life longer than it could enjoy in nature.

The hype Mr. Longo is peddling suits the right's governmental overreach narrative, the same right that is telling doctors they have to report patients inquiring about abortions, etc. Mr. Longo's emotional pain, if there is any, is a direct result of him setting himself up above the government, over animal control laws, that incude rabies control. He was dealing with two species that are common carriers of rabies.

If he had been a victim instead of the problem, I would care about his narrative, but he is the equal of some habitual speeder who weaved in and out of traffic, led the cops on a high speed chase, and then posted photos of his bruised and bloodied face when they slammed him to the ground when he resisted arrest. Cry me a river.
 
I guess then that all the unvaccinated dogs and cats that are kept by people across the US are also fair game so to speak to be seized and destroyed.

Or they could just be quarantined if seized to make sure they aren't rabid.
 
What's the GoFundMe for? To pay for the resurrection of the squirrel?
He claims it is for his legal fees. However, in a watered down interview with the New York Times, he stated that he used Peanut's charm to elicit donations to his farm animal rescue. He formed a non-profit back in April with his wife. He stated he didn't know if he could still get the donations without Peanut.

Anyone who can form a 501(c)3 certainly has the brains to get a pet registered or permitted.

He'll just milk this as long as he can.

The State, btw, euthanized the squirrel after it bit a worker who was transferring it to the State's possession. It may be a department politcy to do so after biting. In the view of the State, their employee was bitten by a wild animal that has potential to carry rabies. Not sure I like that policy, but I don't question the right of the State to do so. They deal witth thousands of cases a year, not just one that has fans.
 
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I guess then that all the unvaccinated dogs and cats that are kept by people across the US are also fair game so to speak to be seized and destroyed.

Or they could just be quarantined if seized to make sure they aren't rabid.
They are if they bite the office taking them, according to New York. I would advocate isolation too, but I'm not a New Yorker, so not my call.

I get my animal vaccinated annually, as required by law. And yes. Unvaccinated animals are absolutely fair game for govenment control. The majority, the vast majority of American live in cities, so animals not compliant are a public health threat.
 
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