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[belamyi]

South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, a possible Trump VP pick, to get wed at Seacoast Church (Palmetto Politics; June 27, 2024)

Yes, that was the googled image that prompted my comment.

 

[rareboy]

 

[johaninsc]

 

[johaninsc]

If he gets back in office a lot of people are going to die...

 

[rareboy]

It is up to Americans to make sure that doesn't happen.

 

[belamyi]

For how long..?

Because the people have always been and will always be there... 'good normal people' who do not even need to be mutant rednecks, but mere clueless (gullible/guileless), faithful, family-loving, US-loving, willfully ignorant old-lady-throwing-a-straw-to-the-inquisitorial-pyre people.

Picture yourself being refractory to anything an European, Asian... whoever, might say about your country in general, and your own role in it: you will get the mental picture of any trumpist being told that half the country is evil, and that they are part of that problem.

 

[belamyi]

It is easier when you want to believe at home in a myth against a foreign country that does not care about your choice of faith, and you can all remain either rationally cold or cozily indoctrinated (49:10) (go mock at trumpists saying "I know it's fake, but I still believe it"... when people still believe that the Greek saved the whole Western Civilization, or that 1066 didn't mean the fall of England and Britain and the impossibility of a British Empire and global might up to this day)...

or when the opposing myths are inside the same country, but it is all rather a pantomime, like politics before Trump;

but when you have two countries fighting with a heavily loaded pantomime, out of sheer desperation of one party to survive at whatever cost, using what and whoever it takes...


What we are seeing today with trumpism is mere old same, only without the control of those who had always guided... wwhich, ultimately, is what the past centuries of "democratization" and "power to the people" ACTUALLY mean.

 

[rareboy]

For how long..?

Because the people have always been and will always be there... 'good normal people' who do not even need to be mutant rednecks, but mere clueless (gullible/guileless), faithful, family-loving, US-loving, willfully ignorant old-lady-throwing-a-straw-to-the-inquisitorial-pyre people.

Picture yourself being refractory to anything an European, Asian... whoever, might say about your country in general, and your own role in it: you will get the mental picture of any trumpist being told that half the country is evil, and that they are part of that problem.

Actually, the formula was (in fascist Germany in the 1930's) and still is (37% support for Trump) that one third of the people will be willing to eradicate one third of the people while the other third does nothing.

 

[belamyi]

Actually, the formula was (in fascist Germany in the 1930's) and still is (37% support for Trump) that one third of the people will be willing to eradicate one third of the people while the other third does nothing.

It doesn't even need to be as big as a 33% against a 66%.
Again, it's the desperation that is big.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/05/24/republicans-trump-trial-00159985

 

[rareboy]

Well in the US, there is a system of electing a president that denies the majority will of voters through the electoral college and the states have so violently gerrymandered their congressional districts as to beggar belief.

It was all built in to the system to eventually make sure that inclusive democracy would fail.

 

[belamyi]

Well in the US, there is a system of electing a president that denies the majority will of voters through the electoral college and the states have so violently gerrymandered their congressional districts as to beggar belief.

It was all built in to the system to eventually make sure that inclusive democracy would fail.

In the US and in every democracy, you can never let the people decide... unless you decide you allow the people to decide.
The very idea that any common head can be a political head for the mere fact of being born is even crazier than ruling for the mere fact of being born... inside a ruling family.

 

[belamyi]

Beyond the hypocrisy of selling the goods of democracy, except when democracy elects as a ruler a dissident socialist in Chile, a Muslim party or a pro-Russian Ukrainian president, the US always sold the goods of overturning the tyranny over the masses, ignoring the fate of all the tyrants replacing old ones, and there is no more dangerous tyranny than the tyranny of the masses, usually called "public opinion", whether under the shape of parishioners or electors.

 

[KaraBulut]

Well in the US, there is a system of electing a president that denies the majority will of voters through the electoral college and the states have so violently gerrymandered their congressional districts as to beggar belief.

It was all built in to the system to eventually make sure that inclusive democracy would fail.

Keep in mind that it was all designed when there were only 13 colonies with 4 million residents (600,000 of whom were slaves) and importantly, there were no political parties. The majority eligible voters were white, free men who usually were property-owners.

In the first Presidential election that gave us George Washington, less than 2% of the population voted for the electors.

The American voting system was designed for another era. They keep tinkering with it, instead of just updating it for a modern nation that is supposed to be a democracy.

And of course, it's not the pro-democracy faction that has learned to manipulate the system to keep themselves in power, while claiming any election that they don't win are rigged.

 

[rareboy]

Beyond the hypocrisy of selling the goods of democracy, except when democracy elects as a ruler a dissident socialist in Chile, a Muslim party or a pro-Russian Ukrainian president, the US always sold the goods of overturning the tyranny over the masses, ignoring the fate of all the tyrants replacing old ones, and there is no more dangerous tyranny than the tyranny of the masses, usually called "public opinion", whether under the shape of parishioners or electors.

that is just a myth and all gone.

 

[belamyi]

Keep in mind that it was all designed when there were only 13 colonies with 4 million residents (600,000 of whom were slaves) and importantly, there were no political parties. The majority eligible voters were white, free men who usually were property-owners.

In the first Presidential election that gave us George Washington, less than 2% of the population voted for the electors.

The American voting system was designed for another era. They keep tinkering with it, instead of just updating it for a modern nation that is supposed to be a democracy.

And of course, it's not the pro-democracy faction that has learned to manipulate the system to keep themselves in power, while claiming any election that they don't win are rigged.

Keep in mind that it was designed 'against' [a 'tyranny' of 'democratic' Britain, Athens-style in the 1770s], not 'for' the rule of the masses of the world at any future time... keep in mind that they (not just Thom Jefferson, was he the one singled out and reviled for it?)) could not even conceive democracy to be a valid concept for all world cultures.

Just like economic liberalism was 'designed' for the happy few rational "gentlemen", not for masses of pushy greedy scoundrels...

 

[rareboy]

Keep in mind that it was all designed when there were only 13 colonies with 4 million residents (600,000 of whom were slaves) and importantly, there were no political parties. The majority eligible voters were white, free men who usually were property-owners.

In the first Presidential election that gave us George Washington, less than 2% of the population voted for the electors.

The American voting system was designed for another era. They keep tinkering with it, instead of just updating it for a modern nation that is supposed to be a democracy.

And of course, it's not the pro-democracy faction that has learned to manipulate the system to keep themselves in power, while claiming any election that they don't win are rigged.

And the die is cast and there is no undoing what simple men of the 18th century wrought.

We can go all the way back to the Federalist Papers...but it changes nothing.

The US is and almost always has been an exclusivist white male landowner collective.

And now it is going to add an overlay of being a far right Catholic/Baptist theocracy to lefitimize its slave owning underpinnings of a rich white man's plaything.

And there is apparently nothing to stop it because the feckless Democrats can't see clearly enough to do it.

Just like 2016.

 

[belamyi]

that is just a myth and all gone.

Which one.

Jubbites always wrote off me as a silly crazy ignorant when I would post, back in the Palin days, lengthy spiels exposing why the real foundation of the USA was not in the XVIIIth "papers", but in the XIXth century drifter invasion of rifles and bibles... even though I would be reminded that THE USA IS, and not ARE, since 1865...

 

[cityboy-stl]

Well in the US, there is a system of electing a president that denies the majority will of voters through the electoral college and the states have so violently gerrymandered their congressional districts as to beggar belief.

It was all built in to the system to eventually make sure that inclusive democracy would fail.

Please note, gerrymandering affects the House of Representatives and state legislative offices. Only two states, Maine and Nebraska, partially award their electoral votes by congressional district. The remaining 48 states award their electoral votes, winner-take-all (which is the problem in my view), based only on the grand total of the state's popular vote. Gerrymandering does not impact the presidential race to any significant degree. The number of electoral votes a state has is determined by the number of congressional districts plus the two Senate seats.

Split Electoral Votes in Maine and Nebraska - 270toWin

While most states allocate electoral votes in an all or none manner to the popular vote winner, Maine and Nebraska take a different approach.

www.270towin.com

 

[KaraBulut]

...The remaining 48 states award their electoral votes, winner-take-all (which is the problem in my view), based only on the grand total of the state's popular vote.

Winner-take-all was a solution that was supposed to fix the Presidential elections that resulted in a tie which sends the Presidential election to the U.S. House.

...Gerrymandering does not impact the presidential race to any significant degree. The number of electoral votes a state has is determined by the number of congressional districts plus the two Senate seats.

Unless the vote goes to the US House where a minority-in-majority could disregard the election results and put in the candidate of the party that is in power in the House.

Lipstick on a pig. The Electoral College is the problem that needs to be eliminated.

 

[Riverrick]

Ah hem..........Where are the amusing political cartoons?