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Jobs' response was not "disastrous": it rather shows the "disaster" that today's economy is, particularly in the USA, because it throws out bluntly that it is all about selling, not producing good stuff.
That may be "disastrous" for those who believe it is all about hard work and good work, but it is not: it is just about selling, no matter what.
And that actually goes beyond the economy, because the products and the selling it is being talked about are only a means to grab the masses by pleasuring them: in other times it was all about religion, God... now you take a ball-tosser or a gadget-peddler and put them in the place of a cult or a god.
Finally, the ranting of the guy shows how pampered people are today, figuring out that by being "educated" and "devoted" to some particular job, you deserve a reward and a good place in the universe, that you feel you have all the right in the cosmos to demand in your benefit... which actually brings us back to the religion field.
So, more than any relation with some rosy-colored view of him because of what came afterwards, it actually shows how (at what cost, if your prefer) that "afterwards" comes to be.
That may be "disastrous" for those who believe it is all about hard work and good work, but it is not: it is just about selling, no matter what.
And that actually goes beyond the economy, because the products and the selling it is being talked about are only a means to grab the masses by pleasuring them: in other times it was all about religion, God... now you take a ball-tosser or a gadget-peddler and put them in the place of a cult or a god.
Finally, the ranting of the guy shows how pampered people are today, figuring out that by being "educated" and "devoted" to some particular job, you deserve a reward and a good place in the universe, that you feel you have all the right in the cosmos to demand in your benefit... which actually brings us back to the religion field.
So, more than any relation with some rosy-colored view of him because of what came afterwards, it actually shows how (at what cost, if your prefer) that "afterwards" comes to be.
Jobs' response was not "disastrous": it rather shows the "disaster" that today's economy is, particularly in the USA, because it exposes bluntly that it is all about selling, not about offering the best products one can achieve. That is why the economy is mostly about financial products, even junk or 'non-existent' products: you get to produce sellable trash at a much lower cost than factories.
That may be "disastrous" for those who believe that business is all about hard work and good work, that "you build and they will come" to it, but it is not, FAR from it: it is just about selling, no matter what, how matter how.
And that actually goes beyond the economy, because the products and the selling it is being talked about are only a means to grab the masses by pleasuring them: in other times it was all about religion, God... now you take a ball-tosser or a gadget-peddler and put them in the place of a cult or a god.
Finally, the ranting of the guy shows how pampered people are today, believing that by being "educated" and "devoted" to some particular job, you deserve a reward and a good place in the universe, that you feel you have all the right in the cosmos to demand in your benefit... which actually brings us back to the religion field.
So, more than any relation with some rosy-colored view of him because of what came afterwards, it actually shows how (at what cost, if your prefer) that "afterwards" ever came to be.
In short, "excellence" is too much work to produce, too much too reproduce, even more to make it acceptable, desirable, marketable.
That may be "disastrous" for those who believe that business is all about hard work and good work, that "you build and they will come" to it, but it is not, FAR from it: it is just about selling, no matter what, how matter how.
And that actually goes beyond the economy, because the products and the selling it is being talked about are only a means to grab the masses by pleasuring them: in other times it was all about religion, God... now you take a ball-tosser or a gadget-peddler and put them in the place of a cult or a god.
Finally, the ranting of the guy shows how pampered people are today, believing that by being "educated" and "devoted" to some particular job, you deserve a reward and a good place in the universe, that you feel you have all the right in the cosmos to demand in your benefit... which actually brings us back to the religion field.
So, more than any relation with some rosy-colored view of him because of what came afterwards, it actually shows how (at what cost, if your prefer) that "afterwards" ever came to be.
In short, "excellence" is too much work to produce, too much too reproduce, even more to make it acceptable, desirable, marketable.
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ues es gracioso cómo este vídeo acaba enlazando la educación progre con la formación de la inteligencia y el discurso de los votantes mal llamados "de derechas". El vídeo parte del buenismo progre de "lo importante es participar", y desemboca en la doctrina de "hechos alternativos" del trumpismo.
Lo que hizo el buenismo ilustrado, sobre todo la veta de Rousseau, es tomarse en serio la tontería que siempre se había dicho para alabar de palabra a la masa llamándola "sabio pueblo" (léase el refranero que exhibe en todo su esplendor la belleza de la sabiduría que enseña una cosa y la contraria como igualmente válidas), mientras a la hora de la verdad se la menospreciaba y ninguneaba olímpicamente. De modo que hoy no intentes venderle a nadie nada que lo revele como no le gusta verse, y eso vale tanto para los que nunca aprendieron ni a sumar dos y dos, como para los que sí aprendieron mates, pero no fueron más allá, y te tratarán como a la pobre profe del vídeo si intentas ir de listo poniendo en evidencia su ignorancia pretenciosa.
Algo así debe haber pasado con el feminismo, porque después de tantos siglos diciéndole a las mujeres que eran la cumbre de la Creación, la fuente de las perfecciones morales y el reducto de la belleza humana, mientras se las reducía a parir o a fregar y cocinar, o todo ello a la vez, al final se lo acabaron creyendo y reclaman una posición social que refleje la superioridad moral y física que siempre les habían reconocido los hipócritas del colgajo jajajajaja.
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Perdón pero ese vídeo muestra cómo ha funcionado siempre la mentalidad predominante: cuando algún elemento los descoloca y les hace sentirse inferiores, bien sea algo nuevo, bien sea una tradición que consideran ridículamente desfasada (incluso por los que se tienen por más tradicionalistas) lo desprecian y lo estigmatizan como peligroso para la sociedad, mezclando burla y odio según el caso.
Lo que específicamente muestra el vídeo es, primero, que el progresismo se ha impuesto totalmente en los último cincuenta años y, segundo, cómo eso se manifiesta en la educación oficial.
También es interesante señalar que, en la llamada educación privada, mal llamada "elitista", a los lerdos se les aprueba directamente porque han pagado por ello, y a nadie se le ocurre discutir ni sobre notas, ni sobre dictaduras, ni sobre protección de los niños, porque no se trata ni de educar, menos aún de los alumnos: solo de mantener a la gente "adecuada" en los puestos "adecuados".
Por último, también conviene recordar que el progresismo es una "invención", no del proletariado alérgico al agua, sino por la burguesía despreciada, como hoy se desprecia a los "rojos", por la aristocracia alérgica al agua y garante de los valores y tradiciones "esenciales y "eternas" que, una vez desplazada, dio lugar a que la llama del progresismo originalmente burgués fuera recogida por el escalón inmediatamente inferior, que es el que los advenedizos ignorantes que se las dan de "señores" llaman ridículamente "progres", sin querer reconocer que es ese "progresismo" el que los ha aupado socialmente al lugar que ocupan, y que ellos mismos son "progresía", por mucho que quieran disfrazarse y trepar para codearse y pretender asimilarse a los auténticos (poquísimos) burgueses y aristócratas de toda la vida, ellos mismos "aprogresados".
Lo que hizo el buenismo ilustrado, sobre todo la veta de Rousseau, es tomarse en serio la tontería que siempre se había dicho para alabar de palabra a la masa llamándola "sabio pueblo" (léase el refranero que exhibe en todo su esplendor la belleza de la sabiduría que enseña una cosa y la contraria como igualmente válidas), mientras a la hora de la verdad se la menospreciaba y ninguneaba olímpicamente. De modo que hoy no intentes venderle a nadie nada que lo revele como no le gusta verse, y eso vale tanto para los que nunca aprendieron ni a sumar dos y dos, como para los que sí aprendieron mates, pero no fueron más allá, y te tratarán como a la pobre profe del vídeo si intentas ir de listo poniendo en evidencia su ignorancia pretenciosa.
Algo así debe haber pasado con el feminismo, porque después de tantos siglos diciéndole a las mujeres que eran la cumbre de la Creación, la fuente de las perfecciones morales y el reducto de la belleza humana, mientras se las reducía a parir o a fregar y cocinar, o todo ello a la vez, al final se lo acabaron creyendo y reclaman una posición social que refleje la superioridad moral y física que siempre les habían reconocido los hipócritas del colgajo jajajajaja.
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Perdón pero ese vídeo muestra cómo ha funcionado siempre la mentalidad predominante: cuando algún elemento los descoloca y les hace sentirse inferiores, bien sea algo nuevo, bien sea una tradición que consideran ridículamente desfasada (incluso por los que se tienen por más tradicionalistas) lo desprecian y lo estigmatizan como peligroso para la sociedad, mezclando burla y odio según el caso.
Lo que específicamente muestra el vídeo es, primero, que el progresismo se ha impuesto totalmente en los último cincuenta años y, segundo, cómo eso se manifiesta en la educación oficial.
También es interesante señalar que, en la llamada educación privada, mal llamada "elitista", a los lerdos se les aprueba directamente porque han pagado por ello, y a nadie se le ocurre discutir ni sobre notas, ni sobre dictaduras, ni sobre protección de los niños, porque no se trata ni de educar, menos aún de los alumnos: solo de mantener a la gente "adecuada" en los puestos "adecuados".
Por último, también conviene recordar que el progresismo es una "invención", no del proletariado alérgico al agua, sino por la burguesía despreciada, como hoy se desprecia a los "rojos", por la aristocracia alérgica al agua y garante de los valores y tradiciones "esenciales y "eternas" que, una vez desplazada, dio lugar a que la llama del progresismo originalmente burgués fuera recogida por el escalón inmediatamente inferior, que es el que los advenedizos ignorantes que se las dan de "señores" llaman ridículamente "progres", sin querer reconocer que es ese "progresismo" el que los ha aupado socialmente al lugar que ocupan, y que ellos mismos son "progresía", por mucho que quieran disfrazarse y trepar para codearse y pretender asimilarse a los auténticos (poquísimos) burgueses y aristócratas de toda la vida, ellos mismos "aprogresados".
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YES!! It's an absolute triumph for a couple of small treasure islands, with a disgraceful shitty location in the ass of the world, to be placed among the 12 best Olympic countries, which usually are the dozen greater powers of the world
Anyway, New Zealand is the only place that excels in quality of life as a whole country, not being some stupid valley forgotten by history in The Middle of Nowhere Central Europe and, whenever Humanity would be decimated or even annihilated by a plague, it would be the last nation on the list, so it's not like you would need much more to feel proud of being a kiwi
PalacePaul
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Again, the expression is not "Georgian" but "late Edwardian-early Georgian" and, again, one can not be "confused" by that unless one is half-ignorant in British history.
You are parsing my text in the patched-up fashion typical of the quarter-witted AI of a Google Translate or the average "intelligent" text processor.
I used that expression for accuracy's sake, because I was referring to the specific fashions of 1909-1914, which fit the styles featured in the video: notice how some references to "Edwardian fashion" are illustrated by dresses produced only starting in 1909-1910, therefore more typical of the reign of George V.
What are typically called Edwardian fashions, with S-shape, Gibson girls and all that, do not look the same at all, yet it is not actually "wrong" to call "Edwardian" a very different style in fashion during the last year of his reign.
You are parsing my text in the patched-up fashion typical of the quarter-witted AI of a Google Translate or the average "intelligent" text processor.
I used that expression for accuracy's sake, because I was referring to the specific fashions of 1909-1914, which fit the styles featured in the video: notice how some references to "Edwardian fashion" are illustrated by dresses produced only starting in 1909-1910, therefore more typical of the reign of George V.
What are typically called Edwardian fashions, with S-shape, Gibson girls and all that, do not look the same at all, yet it is not actually "wrong" to call "Edwardian" a very different style in fashion during the last year of his reign.
^ Actually, it's Georgian era, and referring to the reigns of the FOUR Georges: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_era
First off, it's George I to George IV and, second, it is usually referred to Georgian era, or Georgian style of Architecture, crafts, even fashion and the like; finally, it's so commonly applied to that WHOLE ERA that most people, like you, believe it is exclusive to those reigns, and can not be applied to the two subsequent Georges... which, like you too, most people can't get right, and always drop one George or two. For common people, what is not common to them is not right, because "they have never heard it".
If we are talking early XXth century, there is no possible confusion: it would be confusing if used isolatedly, but not associated to the Edwardian era in the particular way I did.
In any case, if that had really been the issue, you would have pointed it out right away.
First off, it's George I to George IV and, second, it is usually referred to Georgian era, or Georgian style of Architecture, crafts, even fashion and the like; finally, it's so commonly applied to that WHOLE ERA that most people, like you, believe it is exclusive to those reigns, and can not be applied to the two subsequent Georges... which, like you too, most people can't get right, and always drop one George or two. For common people, what is not common to them is not right, because "they have never heard it".
If we are talking early XXth century, there is no possible confusion: it would be confusing if used isolatedly, but not associated to the Edwardian era in the particular way I did.
In any case, if that had really been the issue, you would have pointed it out right away.
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JarodA
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This gif should be more of a thing IMO 
