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Private Militia Takes Over Federal Wildlife Sanctuary in Oregon

It appears that Oregon law grants an exception to its unlawful possession of firearms statute for persons convicted of a felony by reason of insanity. (See Section 166.250)

I’m not sure if it matters, but Wampler is a resident of California.

I’ve done some additional research on this issue.

Oregon has pioneered a unique approach to the so-called “insanity plea.” Rather than finding a defendant “not guilty by reason of insanity,” the Oregon statute stipulates the defendant is “guilty except for insanity.” The difference in wording is intended to help juries avoid the misconception that a finding of insanity will result in the defendant being set free. For purposes of determining a person’s Criminal History Scale, prior findings of Guilty Except for Insanity (GEI) are not considered [SUP][Link][/SUP]. Similarly, the grant of a GEI defense does not prompt other restrictions that are typically associated with a felony conviction, such as the eligibility to possess a firearm. GEI is essentially a “not guilty” verdict and correlates with the not guilty by reason of insanity plea that is used in the State of California.


A "crime of passion" is the category the "temporary insanity" claim falls under. The point is that there is logic to the law. And if I'm reading the material correctly, he wasn't found not guilty, he was found guilty but insane. If he'd been convicted in Oregon, that would mean instead of going to prison he would serve the same sentence, but at the state mental hospital.

Correct.

Persons found Guilty Except for Insanity fall under the jurisdiction of the Oregon Psychiatric Security Review Board and are generally confined to the Oregon State Hospital in Salem – often for the full term of the state’s jurisdiction in their case, which is specified by statute to be the maximum length of time that could result from a guilty verdict in their case.

The following link provides an excellent overview of the insanity defense as compared from the perspective of different legal jurisdictions.

The Insanity Defense: A Comparative Analysis (Neville, Kristin, "The Insanity Defense: A Comparative Analysis" (2010). Senior Honors Theses. Paper 244)


Other source links:

 
WRT Mr. Wampler …

According to the Ukiah Daily Journal, Neil Sigurd Wampler was sentenced to state prison by Judge John Golden, following the defendant's plea of guilty to murder in the second degree.


Hence, Mr. Wampler is not legally eligible to possess a firearm.
 
Mo guns, mo better.

Maybe if they all get really bored, they'll start a game of Russian Roulette.
 
Mo guns, mo better.

Maybe if they all get really bored, they'll start a game of Russian Roulette.

If the temperature gets a bit colder, maybe I can round up some Pink Pistols and go "join" them... carrying rainbow-colored Super Soakers. We can tell them we saw their on-line appeals and came to help them increase their liberty... or at least their appreciation of it. :-<

pride:
 
If the temperature gets a bit colder, maybe I can round up some Pink Pistols and go "join" them... carrying rainbow-colored Super Soakers. We can tell them we saw their on-line appeals and came to help them increase their liberty... or at least their appreciation of it. :-<

pride:

Only if you all show up wearing the Dr. Zhivago outfit Johnny Weir wore to the Winter Olympics!
 
Only if you all show up wearing the Dr. Zhivago outfit Johnny Weir wore to the Winter Olympics!

Oh, we wouldn't want to all look alike. Weir has plenty of costumes to give us variety!

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... and those are just ones he's worn on the ice!
 
They're still holed up, then?

They hoped they would get the attention, like Cliven Bundy did in Nevada. Apparently it is not to be. For these types, being ignored is anathema to them, and it probably deters the tactic from being used over and over and over again, even more of a deterrence than if the government came in with heavy ordnance and pulled off another Waco.

I remember the joke at the time - a rather tasteless one - which made Waco into an acronym...
We
Ain't
Comin'
Out.
 
Oh, we wouldn't want to all look alike. Weir has plenty of costumes to give us variety!

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... and those are just ones he's worn on the ice!

I do think it would be funny if a bunch of Gay men and Survivalist Lesbians came to their rescue. You know they'd never accept that kind of help though.

...

Cliven, Ammon? Who the fuck is naming these people?
 
^ The same kind of people who dished out legal names Tilson, Alvery, Junior in a neighbor family I used to know when I was a kid. They were originally from West Virginia. They get a pass.

It was some kind of a guy thing. The wife and girls were Bertha, Sandy, and I think Judy.
 
Breaking news: Shots fired near Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

Ammon Bundy may have been involved in a shooting along U. S. Route 395 between Burns, Oregon and John Day, Oregon. Bundy was due in John Day for a meeting with community members, but he did not show for that meeting.

Harney District Hospital in Burns, OR is on lockdown. Oregon Dept. of Transportation has closed US 395 at US 20 near Burns, OR.

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burn...-militia-news-updates/lockdown-harney-county/
 
The dead man is Robert LaVoy Finicum, 55.

Ammon Bundy is claiming Finicum had his hands up and was cooperating with police when he was shot 3x by them. Bundy has also said that Finicum was on the ground when he was shot.

The militiamen were stopped on US 395 between Burns and John Day, OR as they were traveling to a community meeting in John Day. Authorities evidently used the occasion of their absense from the refuge to apprehend them.

There seems to be a general roundup of the militiamen underway. Within hours of the shooting in Oregon, Jon Ritzheimer (who had previously participated in the occupation of Malheur) was arrested in Arizona. Joseph D. O'Shaughnessy (known to the militiamen as "captain") was arrested in a separate incident in Burns, OR. And Pete Santilli (who is some kind of independent broadcaster) was arrested in Burns, also.

It's not confirmed yet, but it seems the occupation of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge is over.


http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/bundys_in_custody_one_militant.html
 
arrogant, vile, disgusting, hypocritical assholes.

ignorance must really be bliss.
 
The pity is that the militias have another 'patriot' saint to rally round.

I've already read one comment on a news site that the militia guys were 'unarmed'.

This all just perpetuates the nonsense.
 
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The booking photo of Ryan Bundy on the right.

Is this the face of a sane man?

Or the result of incest.

The whole gang.

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