Proof: God is man made

[Brian Smith]

Do, so. I wait with great anticipation.

Come to think of it, I would be a fool to try to upstage Lennon.

 

[kallipolis]

John Lennon's words are a treat and, a reminder that each of us has our own experience of love to keep us company.

 

[TX-Beau]

Babylon is one of the first city states. BUILDING is big part of them, so it makes sense the 'builders' create myths going back to those times.

LOL, Ancient humans painted bison on caves in France. Caves are holes in the earth, so it "makes sense" Bison worship holes.

Come on, that's just a bunch of crap taken from a flake site that bills itself as "Examining The Critical Trends And The Disturbing Signs Of Change As Humanity Hurtles Into A Very Dark Future..."

Just about everything I saw on that site was paranoid apocalyptic distortion apparently intended to give paranoid people something extremely tabloid to quake before.

I particularly like the "Obama" endorsing human-animal hybrid clones under the guise of "medical research," and the dark future we are "hurtling"towards where "... "man-made life" and bizarre human-animal hybrid creatures are free to roam and breed and spread across the face of the earth..."

http://futurestorm.blogspot.com/2010/12/human-animal-hybrids-human-cloning-and.html

 

[ludolfo]

yeah ? some were probably laughing in Hiroshima when the same psychopathic mindset dropped the nuke on them as a 'test'!
So what's your point? laughing = truth?

 

[TX-Beau]

Point is it's frikkin' amusing what SOME PEOPLE will believe.

 

[TX-Beau]

I saw a tabloid headline once that read "Satan escapes from oil well in West Texas!" They even had a picture. Truth? Sure why not.

 

[Kulindahr]

I find the video logical but didn't find it funny.
Anyhow i laugh at you for believing things with zero evidence.

He probably laughs right back for you thinking there's no evidence.

 

[Kulindahr]

Catholicism is by far the most Populated Christian Religion in world, and now with a good possibility that the Orthodox Church reuniting with Catholicism, can push Real Christianity past 1.2 Billion members to close to 2 Billion. How many of those 30,000 denominations can claim to be close to 1.2 billion? Catholicism is not a denomination. Take in consideration that the Global Population is at or above 7 Billion people.

ROMAN Catholicism is definitely a denomination, begun when the bishops of Rome began claiming to be kings over the church.

 

[Kulindahr]

'God' by definition is man-made.

Maybe by your private definition; however, in common use, your assertion is false.

However, when the atheist claims 'God is man made' he usually means there is no spirituality. That 'man's' measure/rationality/science is the measure of all things. I am hearing this argument on these boards from all the self-confessed atheists here who demand that reality can be reduced to its smallest constituents and thus be understood, and that any spiritual experience must be neurological disorder, and/or hallucination. This is the epitome of throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

That's Dawkins' approach -- one which results in the conclusion that humans can't know anything at all.

 

[StSinner]

In the book "An Anthology of Atheism and Rationalism" the editor makes a bold but humble claim that atheists cannot claim that God, whomever and whatever that is, because that would put them in the position that many Christians find themselves in...the burden of proof. This is where I get off the wagon with both religionists and atheists. I cannot say whether or not God exists with absolutely certainty. The editor of said book makes the assertion that claiming either way means that we a have knowledge of things that transcend our physical reality. Such arrogant and certain claims cause me to throw on the breaks. I rely on hope and an educated balanced understanding of my own Christianity and Humanism.

 

[Love me 2]

In the book "An Anthology of Atheism and Rationalism" the editor makes a bold but humble claim that atheists cannot claim that God, whomever and whatever that is, because that would put them in the position that many Christians find themselves in...the burden of proof. This is where I get off the wagon with both religionists and atheists. I cannot say whether or not God exists with absolutely certainty. The editor of said book makes the assertion that claiming either way means that we a have knowledge of things that transcend our physical reality. Such arrogant and certain claims cause me to throw on the breaks. I rely on hope and an educated balanced understanding of my own Christianity and Humanism.

The absolute certainty that God does in fact exists, is all based on what Faith is, and that is the Faith is the realization of what is hoped for and evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1

 

[Love me 2]

ROMAN Catholicism is definitely a denomination, begun when the bishops of Rome began claiming to be kings over the church.

Jesus Christ is the one who is King over the Church, the church in Purgatory, the Church on Earth, the Church in Heaven. The Pope is his Represenative on this Earth, and Guides the Church under Christ the King, and under the inspirations of the Holy Spirit. The Pope does have Temporal powers over the Vatican City-State, ie; he is Head of State.

 

[StSinner]

The absolute certainty that God does in fact exists, is all based on what Faith is, and that is the Faith is the realization of what is hoped for and evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1

I completely agree. Faith and hope are the central message where Resurrection in Christianity is concerned. Without either, grace cannot take effect. As Rob Bell points out in his video on Resurrection, Jesus invites us to trust Resurrection. Faith and Hope are manifestations of trust.

 

[Love me 2]

I completely agree. Faith and hope are the central message where Resurrection in Christianity is concerned. Without either, grace cannot take effect. As Rob Bell points out in his video on Resurrection, Jesus invites us to trust Resurrection. Faith and Hope are manifestations of trust.

I cannot hear videos or other audios, as I cannot afford to have my hearing aids fixed or get new ones, so, now I am 90/80% deaf in each respective ear, and my guess is that this is God's will for me, too enter more deeply into Silence from the World. I, as Catholic, do trust in the Resurrection, and I do believe that it happened. That is what Faith is at the Moment.

 

[Telstra]

The absolute certainty that God does in fact exists, is all based on what Faith is, and that is the Faith is the realization of what is hoped for and evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1

Faith is believe without evidence.
I don't see the point of believing something which might not be true.

I'm better off just not believe until proven.

 

[ludolfo]

That is all literalism to me. Real religion is not trusting in words, but E X P E R I E N C E. The original sacraments weren't placebo, but real mind-altering vegetation you would eat, drink, or both, or snuff. And you would actually experience ecstasy, and resurrection...feel me?

Where do you think this idea/concept of 'resurrection' comes from? let us look at the etymology of that term:

resurrection (n.)
late 13c., from Anglo-French resurrectiun, Old French resurrection, from Late Latin resurrectionem (nominative resurrectio) "a rising again from the dead," from past participle stem of Latin resurgere "rise again" (see resurgent). Replaced Old English æriste.

Originally the name of a Church festival commemorating Christ's rising from the dead; generalized sense of "revival" is from 1640s. Also used in Middle English of the rising again of the dead on the Last Day (c.1300). Resurrection pie (1869) was schoolboy slang for a pie made from leftovers of previous meals. Resurrectionist, euphemism for "grave-robber" is attested from 1776.

Mythology is really creativity, and is not linear, but associations of meaning. Hence the meaning of resurrection is a myriad of meanings. It is the actual taking of the sacred plant/mushroom from the ground--which were believed to be gods, and eating it (it is dead) and then is 'born again' as you-as-god. And of course this is meaning you also. Your old 'dead' idea of your self--with your problems, blockages, is dead and your ecstatically are 'born again'. What the patriarchal realigions do is suppress the actual experience and substitute a literalist story which people then make into an image. Tut tut, didn't your 'God' tell you not to have images...? lol

 

[Love me 2]

Faith is believe without evidence.
I don't see the point of believing something which might not be true.

I'm better off just not believe until proven.

...and the proof you are looking for by human means will never prevail, til you are open to experiencing what you are trying to find, or til you make that first step in Faith like St. Peter did when he was in the boat in the midst the storm.

 

[Telstra]

...and the proof you are looking for by human means will never prevail, til you are open to experiencing what you are trying to find, or til you make that first step in Faith like St. Peter did when he was in the boat in the midst the storm.

It is a normal human response praying for help when you are in trouble.

 

[FirmaFan]

...and the proof you are looking for by human means will never prevail, til you are open to experiencing what you are trying to find, or til you make that first step in Faith like St. Peter did when he was in the boat in the midst the storm.

So you must first believe before you can believe?

 

[zoltanspawn]

That is all literalism to me.

I think so, too.

To me, it's pan-literalism. There is a time and place to believe things in spite of evidence, accompanied perhaps by degrees of doubt and certainty. For example, in a temple, it's perfectly appropriate to contemplate Vishnu as though he were real in the same way we think of our own bodies as real. Or during prayer in a monastery, it's appropriate to be faithful.

But I don't think it's sensible to always believe things in spite of evidence. For example, in a science classroom or during a philosophy lecture, our accounts of the world ought to reflect the helpful and reasonable demands those disciplines impose on our thinking. When reason and evidence matter, it's absurd to believe without reason or evidence.

I think it bears pointing out that merely regarding the facts is a meager way to think, whether one's account is reasonably accurate or not.