Question for JUB Republicans

[chance1]

I've been noticing lately a trend on Current Events & Politics.

It looks like a few of you got together, decided there was too much left-wing propaganda in JUB, and decided to change that. I'm noticing more and more right-wing threads started by the same three or four people.

Did this behind-the-scenes agreement to "change things" take place? That's OK...I'm OK with it--but I was just wondering, because the trend is brand-new in JUB. I sense a definite type of militancy going on.

not sure if ur including me in this group

I'm not Republican but to answer your question(s)

1 - not aware of any behind the scenes agreement
2 - I do think there is far too much left wing, make that ultra left wing propaganda spewed - it's nauseatingly positioned as something other than the partisan drivel that it is

Militancy?

I think the 20 are pretty damn sick and tired of business as usual on JUB

Can't speak for anyone other than myself but I think I'd make money in Vegas betting on "I'm not far from the truth" on this one - it's a sucker bet quite frankly

I dig u putting this out there - to quote Ali G "respect"

I am sure there will be an onslaught of invective

just wait

 

[JayHawk]

Nah the libs have carpal <sic> tunnel.

 

[scrapple]

I hate the fact that gay men are expected to have all the same views and should goos-step in uniformity. Why should what I do in bed influence my opinion on immigration, the war on terror or global warming?

 

[naughty899]

holler and ditto.

 

[CO Bob]

But these things will not matter for much longer because where you guys are going, no one will ask if you are gay, or if you are Republican, or if you support immigration. Indeed, as you farm potatoes on the barren and windswept plains of North Korea with your bare hands, I suspect no one will ask anything.

Oh boy, G.A., you really take the cake! Korea? Bare hands? (LOL!)

Speaking of loving yourself, is not the first step to release your hatred? You, G.A., are full of hate. Hate for Republicans. I am not sure who the overbearing Republican male-dominant in your past was, but they really screwed you up! Seek therapy, and soon.

As to the threads originator, it is easy to see that, given the mainstream Republican agenda regarding gays, that there is an over abundance of liberal thought on this forum. I mean, it is a gay forum! I think what you have noticed is mere coincidence. People on the right that view this forum get frustrated with the extreme leftist tilt of the vociferous few who dominate the forum. So, they create threads to counteract that.

I prefer to think of myself as a Conservative, rather than Republican. As an independent voter, a former sheep that followed the left-wing brainwashing that many are blind to, I have come to appreciate Conservative values. Smaller government, less taxes, stronger defense, and giving people the right to lead their lives without impediments from government. I am buoyed by the fact that there are gay conservatives, and their voices are becoming stronger. While I am disappointed in the way our President has led this country on a few fronts, I am optimistic about the Conservative cause, and the role that diversity will play in the future of the Conservative movement.

It all begins with a few, and can grow from there. Don't be fooled by dogmatic emotionals who want to focus on extremes, and forget that the entire system has checks and balances. Both sides, liberal and conservative, have an important role in guiding our country, and always have. This Constitutional Republic needs both to exist.

 

[chance1]

Oh boy, G.A., you really take the cake! Korea? Bare hands? (LOL!)

Speaking of loving yourself, is not the first step to release your hatred? You, G.A., are full of hate. Hate for Republicans. I am not sure who the overbearing Republican male-dominant in your past was, but they really screwed you up! Seek therapy, and soon.

As to the threads originator, it is easy to see that, given the mainstream Republican agenda regarding gays, that there is an over abundance of liberal thought on this forum. I mean, it is a gay forum! I think what you have noticed is mere coincidence. People on the right that view this forum get frustrated with the extreme leftist tilt of the vociferous few who dominate the forum. So, they create threads to counteract that.

I prefer to think of myself as a Conservative, rather than Republican. As an independent voter, a former sheep that followed the left-wing brainwashing that many are blind to, I have come to appreciate Conservative values. Smaller government, less taxes, stronger defense, and giving people the right to lead their lives without impediments from government. I am buoyed by the fact that there are gay conservatives, and their voices are becoming stronger. While I am disappointed in the way our President has led this country on a few fronts, I am optimistic about the Conservative cause, and the role that diversity will play in the future of the Conservative movement.

It all begins with a few, and can grow from there. Don't be fooled by dogmatic emotionals who want to focus on extremes, and forget that the entire system has checks and balances. Both sides, liberal and conservative, have an important role in guiding our country, and always have. This Constitutional Republic needs both to exist.

let it go CO - u know what I'm referring to

use the ignore function - trust me on this

it is like a breath of fresh air - or a reduction in stale air - either way, it's a good thing


hang in

 

[snapcat]

While I can't speak to any behind the scenes discussions among users, I can say that there is no discussion in modland about any of this.

I applaud anyone from anywhere on the political spectrum who takes the time to post a thread here.

I think it's fair to say that many gay men trend liberal, and as such there are more liberal threads here. But fortunatly our friends on the right have stepped up to the plate to make their points.

I think the diversity among our group makes it interesting. And so do the site owners! And I hope to have some good news to report with respect to that very soon!

 

[CO Bob]

use the ignore function - trust me on this

And deprive myself of the best example of a horses ass that this forum has to offer? I would prefer to suffer the slings & arrows! It's too much fun!

Thanks for your support though! I truly appreciate reading your thoughts, and how you fight the good fight!

Political discourse is an American right! The General's Ass is entitled to his opinions, though wrong. I'll pray for him to see the light.

 

[CO Bob]

True. Ah, Betty Bob, why don't you "do your role" as God intended and wait on me hand and foot?

Would'nt you worry about me poisoning your wine, oh noble one?

 

[chance1]

And deprive myself of the best example of a horses ass that this forum has to offer? I would prefer to suffer the slings & arrows! It's too much fun!

Thanks for your support though! I truly appreciate reading your thoughts, and how you fight the good fight!

Political discourse is an American right! The General's Ass is entitled to his opinions, though wrong. I'll pray for him to see the light.

go for it

I usually embrace a fight - but this one is energy sapping - and too draining - and not worth it

fun is good

I love political discourse - and find with friends and co workers it can be meaningful and that disagreements can open doors to better understanding if not agreement - that's the ideal - often on JUB (and I am guilty of this), the fight becomes the thing, not the exchange of opinions/thoughts - often I find myself thinking "they didn't even read my post - they're responding to me on something I do not think and did not write" - but I'm guilty of that as well

it's not even New Year's Resolution time but it's always a good time

I thank Johan for bringing this up - sometimes things just hit you

 

[letme]

CO Bob,,Chance,,,
Very nice posts.
God FORBID we treat on the holly land that them 80% think they own.

Bob your Quote

I prefer to think of myself as a Conservative, rather than Republican. As an independent voter, a former sheep that followed the left-wing brainwashing that many are blind to, I have come to appreciate Conservative values. Smaller government, less taxes, stronger defense, and giving people the right to lead their lives without impediments from government.

Thanks,be all above 'cept I never was a sheep of the left. AND this may be a shock to the ASS Party [a.k.a.] Donkey Party...I am also an Atheist. gasppppp...

OH MY !!!! a FAG that is a Conservative and does not fear GOD...

Damn if only I had learned at a young age how to walk in Goose Step and be a true NAZI that we , so seem , to be painted as . Oh it is so sad to be a free thinker. I guess I had better burn my voter registration card marked with an "R" and see if I can get me self one of them Green Cards (real or faked)

 

[DiaryOfAMadman]

For those of you who look at the world through DEM or GOP glasses, I really feel bad for you. I despise that I sometimes am labeled "following party lines", it's such bullshit. I have a set of beliefs that I live my life by, however ANYONE has the ability to discuss these things with me, and possibly change my mind. That doesn't make me a "flip flopper" or a Democrat or a Republican. I will in any general election support whichever candidates beliefs have the most in common with mine. So many people here in CE&P see the world in black or white (merely a contrast of extremes, the the color of peoples skin), however 90% of life is very grey.

But yes, there have been a lot more "GOP view induced" arguments here in the forum, but thats a good thing. I'm all for the boards to be "Balanced and Fair".

 

[Sondrith]

But these things will not matter for much longer because where you guys are going, no one will ask if you are gay, or if you are Republican, or if you support immigration. Indeed, as you farm potatoes on the barren and windswept plains of North Korea with your bare hands, I suspect no one will ask anything. I think it's for the best, I really do.

Remember: Smile! Dear Leader Loves You!

I know nothing of any secret meeting of Republicans, I just enjoy throwing my opinion in here and there and of cource, seeing what insane thing General Alfie is going to say next.

 

[CO Bob]

There is not a behind the scenes agreement.If there was/is...I'm not part of it.

If there is to be such an agreement, please let me know!

 

[JayHawk]

I got a big tent for ya.

 

[CO Bob]

 

[Centexfarmer]

I honestly don't have a problem with Gay Republicans.

I don't have a problem with Conservative Gay Republicans.

I applaud my fellow members of the GLBT Community who want to take their party back from the neo-nazi-bible-thumping-fascists who've all but destroyed the party of Barry Goldwater, and Ronald Reagan.

I say good for you!

Where that support dwindles is when there's a concerted effort by those claiming to be members of the GLBT Community (if only by the nature of their personal relationships) to support the current Republican Party leadership and platform without question.

Hey being a Gay Democrat isn't a cake walk, so I understand the frustration that many of you have trying to find a voice within the Republican Party.

But being a Gay Democrat doesn't mean that I'm going to tow the "party line" on every issue.

I'm not seeing that from many of the self proclaimed Republicans / Conservatives who post here.

 

[Centexfarmer]

I would think not. After all, gays are expected to be Democrats, so naturally you're taken for granted by your party. As proof, all you have to do is look at your Presidential candidates and which ones support gay marriage. Corrsect me if I'm wrong, but isn't Kucinich the only one? The great gay savior, Hillary, certainly doesn't.

The flip side to that is, being Gay and Republican is like being an African-American a member of the Ku Klux Klan to many. From what I've seen of the Republican Party, if you're Gay they just want you to stfu and vote like them. Period.

Within the Democratic Party we have a voice, and recogized as a caucus within the National Democratic Party.

Do we get everything that we want? Nope, and we've had to fight for everything that we have recieved. Which is why I say that I understand the frustration that many of my GLBT brothers and sisters within the Republican Party are going through.

However with the current GOP they're damned if they do and damned if they don't in terms of support. If they don't support the GOP they can't have a voice (which they don't appear to have anyway despite the LCR). If they support the GOP they effectively lose their voice within the GLBT Community.

Oooh, ooh! Sign me up for that!

I would think very few of us tow the Republican party line on homosexuality. And, most of the recent restrictions on gay rights have come from initiative petitions or proposed constitutional amendments that are voted on by the electorate.

Two points here.

On your first point I understand that many (well the non self loathing types anyway ), don't support the Republican Party's position on Gays, and that many aren't "single-issue" Republicans, with Gay Equality being a single issue. Personally, as a Gay Man, I don't see where that should always take a back seat, but that's just me.

On your second point, it has always been "religious rights groups/lobby" that have put forth those petitions, and in probably every case Republican dominated State Legislatures who've put forth the Constitutional Amendments.

Otherwise the electorate would, for the most part, be leaving us alone and the rest of our elected Representatives could focus on real legislation and real problems that matter. As opposed to making life difficult for the GLBT Community by constantly using us and our calls for equality a "wedge issue," or famlies as political footballs.

If your argument is that the Democratic Party is just as complicit when they support those types of measures put forth by the GOP then I agree with you.

However, legislating my life away as a Gay Man is not part of the Democratic Party's agenda. Plain and simple. That can't be said about the current GOP.

If you want change within the Republican Party then change it! How can I help? Otherwise, to many here on this board, posters here appear to just be aiding, abetting, and enabling a party that has declared itself an enemy against us.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

 

[OtterJoq]

ok...I'm switching parties...and becoming a democrat.....

when do I get my full marriage rights....?

and when do my friends get full marriage rights nationwide....?

I want them now..... Hurry up .....

We're trying.

But look who's standing in our way.

This thread serves to remind me why I'm a former Republican.

 

[OtterJoq]

Look who's standing in your way? Sure the Republican minority are, but I haven't seen the Democrats going all out to promote gay rights legislatively. Many Democrats oppose them as well, and many more are tepid in their support.

Agreed. But comparatively speaking, I see much more support for us from people with that "D" after their names than that "R."

But those "R's" who are working against us still wield a lot of power...and shall for quite some time. I'm working to stop them.

Are you?