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Race Riots in America 2016

I think it is hard to answer the question whether one is resisting arrest or resisting assault because that depends on the person and the individual at the time.

What I know that doesn't help these situations is the fact that you always see people post articles and talk about how more crime ridden and violent black people are than other races are. You have people and Cops believing this or depending where the area, this notion being fulfilled because of their own perceptions and experiences. Then the other side, you see how black people are treated by Police. Even outside of that you see in general that there are plenty of people who have a problem with how a lot of Police handle things because of youtube videos, media reports or whatever. Because they do handle things badly at times, they are human just like anyone and make mistakes, or make bad decisions, or are bullies with power and on top of that are racist.

Then with all these individuals in the real world people react based on these perceptions, information and experiences. So you have this whirlwind of ingredients that play a part in why a lot of this stuff happens. You have racist Police Officers who abuse power, you have scared black people because of what they see and experience. Regardless whether or not these individuals are actually guilty of anything. Even if they are the way we have seen some of these incidents play out shouldn't call for excessive force or death.

Lately I have been seeing a lot of people claiming the media is spinning things to keep us divided. There is nothing keeping us divided by realizing there is still a huge race problem people want to conveniently ignore or play down. That is the exact reason why these discussions get so heated, why we have Black Lives Matter and why we even have the more irrational members of the group who will resort to more extreme means because at the end of the day they think that their voice isn't actually being heard. And not that I condone the more extreme actions, but when people still see the same things happening and absolutely nothing is changing, what do you exactly expect people to do? To keep sitting down and taking it? Absolutely not. Things escalate instead and they will keep escalating when things don't change.

I am neither a Cop or a black person, so I am not trying to speak for either of these groups. I also apologize for trying to explain things in a more simple manner where it is way more complex than how I have said it. This is just how I am seeing a lot of things play out and there seems to be too many people putting their fingers in their ears and closing their eyes claiming that people are just complaining too much and things aren't so bad just because they don't experience or see what other people do.
 
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From Jason Riley (who is black):

...high black crime rates...obviously underlie tensions between poor minority communities and cops. More than 95% of black shooting deaths don't involve the police, which would seem to undercut the notion that trigger-happy cops are hunting black men. Sadly, rates of murder, rape, robbery, assault and other violent crimes are 7 to 10 times higher among blacks than among whites...

The Dallas shootings have liberals requesting more national conversations about race. But these calls are mostly disingenuous. What liberals have in mind is more of a lecture, where they do the talking and everyone else nods in agreement. The left wants America to acknowledge that white racism explains black pathology; the racial makeup of police departments and elected officials is crucial to good relations between law enforcement and black communities...

In fact, America's ghettos had lower levels of black crime and violence in the pre-1960's era, before major civil-rights legislation had even passed and in an era when racial discrimination was legal and more widespread...Dallas's population is 25% black, as is the police force, yet murders in the city were up by more than 70% in the first part of the year...


And from Dallas Police Chief David Brown (who is also black):

We're asking cops to do too much in this country...Every societal failure, we put it off on the cops to solve. Not enough mental-health funding. Let the cop handle it. Not enough drug-addiction funding. Let the cop handle it. Not enough drug-addiction funding. Let's give it to the cops. Here in Dallas, we got a loose-dog problem. Let's have the cops chase loose dogs. Schools fail, give it to the cops. Seventy percent of the African American community is being raised by single women. Let's give it to the cops to solve that as well. That's too much to ask. Policing was never meant to solve all those problems...

Serve your communities. Don't be a part of the problem. We're hiring. We're hiring. Get off that protest line and put an application in. And we'll put you in the neighborhood, and we will help you resolve some of the problems you're protesting about.
 
I think feelings here are pretty raw. Black people shouldn't be shot by the cops all the time. Assassination in return is not progress.

When peaceful protest falls on deaf ears expect violent protest. We tried saying "Hey could yall, like, stop killing us" and the response was "Shut up, quit complaining, yall kill each other too, all police aren't bad, all lives matter, if the suspect hadn't blah blah blah" and a host of other apathetic unapologetic platitudes.
 
More than 95% of black shooting deaths don't involve the police, which would seem to undercut the notion that trigger-happy cops are hunting black men.

Tell your BLACK (let's go out of our way to point that out :roll: ) friend that nothing undercuts the well-documented systemic targeting of black men by the justice system. That blacks kill each other in greater numbers doesn't mean that trigger-happy police aren't out there gunning us down in cold blood, adding insult to injury our tax dollars are paying these men to hunt us down.
 
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From Jason Riley (who is black):




And from Dallas Police Chief David Brown (who is also black):

I don't see how this addresses that there is still a problem with racism in society as a whole, in the Police force or in the Justice system where it shouldn't be a thing at all. Where people should be put on trial fairly and not based on skin color.

The problem with those statistics whether those statistics are true or not, they don't send a statistical message or people don't consider factors behind statistics. They look at them as facts and will make up their own mind on what those stats mean and represent. People look at that and say "Black people are violent", not that fact that even though History is behind us it still plays a part in why there are a lot of Black people in poverty, or held back and are treated the way they are. And it is not because black people don't want to do anything about it, it is because society as a whole just expected a group of people who were heavily discriminated against to just be able to walk into society and function like nothing ever happened. It's not like when more laws got put in place to protect black people everything was fixed and they were given equal opportunity.

People in poverty regardless what race they are will of course have a higher rate of crime, that is just what ends up happening because people just end up not knowing what to do when they get stuck in it and can't or don't know how to get out. So a statistic saying Sadly, rates of murder, rape, robbery, assault and other violent crimes are 7 to 10 times higher among blacks than among whites... just doesn't do anything but send a message that black people are violent, it just perpetuates pre-existing thoughts and plays as a way to ignore that there are actual problems they do need change. Not saying that there is nothing wrong with any given community, but that doesn't change the fact that there are outside factors that play a part as to why there are problems within that community.
 
When peaceful protest falls on deaf ears expect violent protest. We tried saying "Hey could yall, like, stop killing us" and the response was "Shut up, quit complaining, yall kill each other too, all police aren't bad, all lives matter, if the suspect hadn't blah blah blah" and a host of other apathetic unapologetic platitudes.

and #alllivesmatter

Which you covered, lol.

Yeah, anyone who didn't see this coming a mile away was just intentionally trying to ignore the problem back into obscurity again like they do every other year.
 
When peaceful protest falls on deaf ears expect violent protest. We tried saying "Hey could yall, like, stop killing us" and the response was "Shut up, quit complaining, yall kill each other too, all police aren't bad, all lives matter, if the suspect hadn't blah blah blah" and a host of other apathetic unapologetic platitudes.

Would you advocate that black people should be violent in return?

I think saying so is different than saying we can expect violence.

(FWIW, my comment was posted at the tail-end of a discussion which has since been removed, and as such reads crudely.)
 
Would you advocate that black people should be violent in return?

I think saying so is different than saying we can expect violence.

(FWIW, my comment was posted at the tail-end of a discussion which has since been removed, and as such reads crudely.)

I don't ever advocate violence outside of self-defense nor do I advocate victimizing innocent people but that's exactly where this problem begins. A country that prides itself on due process is allowing police to be judge, jury and executioner specifically for black men. Asian men aren't being gunned down by police. White men aren't being gunned down by police. If you treat people like they're invisible they will begin to act like it so, no, I don't condone this violence but I am not surprised by it. Again, we tried asking peacefully and that didn't work.
 
Part of the issue is people being belligerent to the cops or resisting arrest. Having the mindset that cops only exist to hunt down black people for sport and then expecting a confrontation before anything even happens is not solving anything, it only causes further tension, and further problems down the road.

I don't think the gay rights movement would have made nearly as much traction if we went about it in this manner... just saying. I'd rather earn acceptance from the general population and have them genuinely respect gays, instead of just making everyone feel like they have to walk on eggshells, scared shitless of accidentally saying the wrong thing, making them feel uncomfortable around gays and wanting to avoid them because of any drama that might ensue... or making all straight people feel guilty for being straight, or feel like they need to apologize, even if they themselves haven't done anything wrong.

When you're respectful to cops, you're a whole lot less likely to have problems... what a novel concept eh?
http://www.thebounce.ca/2016/07/10/edmonton-police-encounter-will/


Have you done any history on police and how they have treated minorities in this country? You could not have with a rambling statement like that.

Gay rights ok. I guess you forgot or did not see the videos of gay white men attacking black people in California after the prop 8 vote. Calling them n****rs that were standing near the protests. Because they were mad. Do not sit there and act as if the gay movement has been so nice and peachy to everyone to gain acceptance.

Walking on egg shells you say, well just to school you since you seem to not know any history of this country. Blacks have had to walk on egg shells for hundreds of years or they could be lynched, beaten or as it is now shot dead in traffic stops.

So please have several seats..
 
I'm not the one celebrating and justifying murder, just saying.
 
there are posts on this very thread celebrating the fact that cops got murdered. How is that OK?

https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblrinaction/new I've been browsing this for a while, and it has shown me what you people are all about. If this is being a liberal, then count me the fuck out.
 
Bottom Line dude....this escalation could have been avoided IF we all acknowledged and fought for what is right..and demanded a change because our fellow Americans are being treated unfairly and being incarcerated and murdered along the way for crimes they did not commit....

If you want to point fingers...go to Ferguson Missouri to the bunch of asshole good 'ole boys who LIED on camera in unison about "not being racist" when they clearly were racist. Their in office "memos" in the form of cartoons about Michelle Obama and monkeys at a HS reunion proved that...it is neither a joke and it is NOT funny. It is clearly racist and anyone who wasn't racist would kick their ass for sending it to them...but no one in their department even blinked....

They have ALOT of blood on their hands now....figure out why and you win a clue....
 
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Benvolio ashamed of his racism?

You obviously don't read most of his posts.
 
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Benvolio ashamed of his racism?

You obviously don't read most of his posts.

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