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Really like an older man

Hey guys.

I'm a 22 year old boy going to college and I recently met this really hot, older man.
We've been going out on a few dates and, just recently, I slept with him three times. We had an amazing connection each time and I am beginning to like him, a lot.
He is 60 years old but has the body of a 50 year old. He lives alone and we really enjoy each other's company.

I don't know what to do next!! I really like the guy and want to start a relationship with him but I think he has different expectations from our friendship (just sex).
I also don't know how I am going to juggle him, college, family, and work together.

Any advice would help, especially if you were or are in a relationship with a larger age gap.
Thanks!

btw. Daddies are HOT!!!

When I was 22, and all of my peers didn't refer to ourselves as boys. In fact it would have pissed us off if someone called us boys, being sarcastic or such. A young man was cool but not a boy. Strange how you qualify yourself as a boy.
I realize in the the age qualifies you as a boy compared to a 60 y old man but still.
Perhaps its just a cultural thing? But you do like Daddies and Daddies like boys so maybe thats closer? A 60 yr old Daddy could have a 40 yr old boy though.
There are plenty of men 40 - 60's who are not Daddies and do not think or like the word Daddy as well.
I'm getting close and I will never want to be called a Daddy and never had the desire to be a Daddy. Yuk. That will hold if I make it to 60 or 75 too.
Anyway a 22 yr old boy in college can think it over and rationalize the risk verse the return and go with the flow if accepting the outcome. Have fun though cause not everyone sees 30 or even 25.
A 22 yr old boy can be in a trench next to a 48 yr old man thousands of miles from home dodging land mines and snipers and each is a peer in that place.
 
Hey guys.
Sorry about the late reply. I was out in the middle of Africa for a week volunteering during spring break and didn't have the resources (or privacy) to check this post.
I've been thinking about this a lot. I have some catching up to do with reading with all the articles and posts mentioned above.
I'll get back to all of this in a day or so, I promise.
Thank you soooo much though for your time.
 
I didn’t want to write a really long post talking about how we met and how we got to know each other because, frankly, I don’t like it when others write pages as an OP. But, I guess, I should elaborate now.

First off, I am not attracted to gay/bisexual men my age or around my age. Most of them are into Britney Spears, Gaga, piercings, pink hair, and are totally hairless. They only hang out with girls and are completely feminized. I know there are exceptions, but this is the majority. Sadly, all these PRIDE parades, LGBTQ groups, and even gay magazines just perpetuate this sad stereotype and I feel really alone and “odd” because of it. Seriously though, nothing pisses me off more than PRIDE parades. Maybe I’ll write a rant about those in another thread.

Anyway, I really wanted another man’s company, so I went where everyone else goes these days. We met online, on okcupid. We talked for months online, but never met up with each other because we lived about 2.5 hours away. After some pressuring on his side, I visited him one day. It took me 2 subways and a bus to get to his house. It was a casual date. We did it twice again. They all went off really well. Then I stayed the night over on our 4th date. It was amazing. He has the body of a body builder and, despite his age, can keep up with me really well. It was the first time I slept with a man and it was amazing. The sex proved that we had both an emotional and physical connection. I’ve slept with him another four more times and it is just getting better. I love sleeping in his bed overnight and he puts his hairy arm over my naked hips and pulls me closer to his crotch. I wake him up by pulling off the covers at 5AM and giving him a wet bj. When I get to his place after the long subway and bus rides, he carries me to his bed, throws me down, and begins to lick the sweat off my body. He also gave me a dildo as a gift last time and that has been a ton of fun too. It’s just pure ecstasy to be with him.

I know, for a fact, the conversations about life, politics, economics, and social issues, I could never replicate with someone my age or around my age. I mean, I travel 3 hours to see him and he knows it.

The reality is, nothing lasts for ever. I know I’m going to move in the very near future for grad school. I also know that he is getting old and aged. But, right now, he fills in that void inside of me for companionship and passion and I hope that I somehow make him just a little happier or sexually satisfied. We have a really fun and safe time together.

Some of you said how I won’t mature if I am with him or how he will change me to be who he wants (Did I mention submission turns me on, haha). I guess I have a fetish for older men. Would you guys go to a gay that likes BDSM and tell them “Hey, you should stop BDSM because it’s not natural and it damages you, etc,etc.”

Also, I love how me referring to myself as a “boy” has caused such a ruckus. I’m 22 years old, weigh 130 lbs, and have a 18 inch waist. I think in the gay community, I would be considered a boy, just like a 60 year old man that weighs 260 lbs, with a ton of body hair would be considered a bear. I actually study linguistics at a very prestigious school in Massachusetts and am actually writing my senior dissertation on how the KKK and other oppressive groups in history (the Nazis, Turks, Cuba, etc) have used the forced changing of language as a tool to control people’s perceptions of oneself, but I digress.

Right now, we make each other happy and satisfied and, I think, that is all that’s important. I will speak to him about sexual monogamy next time I see him and I think he will be very excited about it. What happens tomorrow, will happen tomorrow and I will deal with it appropriately tomorrow. I’m not an idiot.

Finally, if you guys ever see a couple at a bar or at a bath or a club that have a large age gap like mine, please don’t discriminate against them. They are probably going through the same problems and joys as you and, as mature homosexuals, I hope we find the beauty in diversity and find it as a wonderful opportunity to talk about life and love in a new way.

If you guys have anything else to add, I would absolutely love to hear about it and, even if it’s critical, I would still love to hear it.

PS.: to the gentleman that said couples with large age gaps won’t enjoy what regular couples enjoy like running out for food at 3AM. We’ve actually gone to Ralphs at 4AM one time mid sex because we wanted to turn each other into ice cream sandwiches. It was very messy. I’ll leave it at that.
 
hi XplicitBoy,

Thanks for your extensive feedback. I totally agree with posting #25 and posting #19. I hope you had a nice time in Africa (first time you have visited Africa?). Great to hear you have met such a nice guy, in particular a guy who is capable to have a good conversation with you about topics in which both of you are interested.

Good luck, best wishes & take care.
 
PS.: to the gentleman that said couples with large age gaps won’t enjoy what regular couples enjoy like running out for food at 3AM. We’ve actually gone to Ralphs at 4AM one time mid sex because we wanted to turn each other into ice cream sandwiches. It was very messy. I’ll leave it at that.

Nice to hear from you Xplicit. I think you are referring to me and I didn't say you won't enjoy some of the same things, I just said it is less likely. I'm sure when you guys went to Ralph's, there weren't too many 60+ people in line behind you... How many 60+ people did you see volunteering in Africa? Probably not nearly as many as the 20-30 age guys that you saw. Again, I am not saying that there are no 60+ people who are flexible, like to be extremely active, aren't risk averse, and not set in their ways, but for most 60+ that is the norm. Think about how a volunteer trip or deciding to just travel for a whole summer would be if you were there with someone you were in love with. People who are usually flexible enough and willing to drop everything and do this are usually younger than 60. Again I am not saying no 60+ guys would do this, and the guy you have described might, but I am saying most wouldn't.



On guys your age--I know what you mean. Prospects seem bleak when you are still in school. During my college years I pretty much only hooked up with or "dated" guys who were 40-50, because I thought the same thing. Granted I am not out, so our situations may be different, but even if I was out back then, I had no interest in guys my age who were feminine or pop-culture obsessed (still don't), and those were the only gay people I saw around. That was in 2011, so not too long ago. Once you hit grad school/the real world however, you will start to see and meet other gay/bi guys similar to how you have described yourself. IMO a lot of guys like what you are attracted to still don't end up fully embracing their sexuality until after college. Don't write them all off! Trust me, there are a ton of young gay guys in academia, and it sounds like you are in a fairly large city so they shouldn't be too hard to find if you end up not continuing a relationship with this guy, especially if looking online or at the gym.

It sounds like you still have your own independence and plans for your life, and that you don't seem to be compromising them anytime soon, so dating this guy may not ever be a problem for you it seems.

But have you ever asked this guy what his life was like from 20-30 and what type of guys he dated during that time? What kind of adventures did he get into with them? I proposed these questions to one guy who was 46 (allegedly, I think he was older but I didn't care, he was hot!) who I was hooking up with back when I was 22. He told me about how he had been a rolling stone, pursuing a drag racing career, living with a LT boyfriend during the time, randomly moving to other cities, both pursuing their dreams but still supporting each other, going through hard times and triumphs, and loving every minute of the thrill that came with it. That's when I thought to myself, by pursuing guys who have already been through this time in their lives, am I missing out on sharing similar experiences with someone else for myself? Obviously only you can answer that from how much you know of this guy and every situation is different (for AAGGI it looks like it worked out beautifully for him) but I just wanted you to consider these things.
 
And also like I previously stated, IF you are ONLY PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO GUYS OVER 60, disregard all that I have said on this post, since that is your attraction.
 
Also, I love how me referring to myself as a “boy” has caused such a ruckus. I’m 22 years old, weigh 130 lbs, and have a 18 inch waist. I think in the gay community, I would be considered a boy, just like a 60 year old man that weighs 260 lbs, with a ton of body hair would be considered a bear. I actually study linguistics at a very prestigious school in Massachusetts and am actually writing my senior dissertation on how the KKK and other oppressive groups in history (the Nazis, Turks, Cuba, etc) have used the forced changing of language as a tool to control people’s perceptions of oneself, but I digress.

Just to play devils advocate :goodevil: At what point would you call yourself a man?:

A. certain age
B. certain weight
C. certain height
D. certain % body hair
E. certain waist >18 in.
F. certain maturity level

I choose F, and because you are someone who has studied linguistics, I would've thought you would be the same, but apparently not...:confused:
 
Nice to hear from you Xplicit. I think you are referring to me and I didn't say you won't enjoy some of the same things, I just said it is less likely. I'm sure when you guys went to Ralph's, there weren't too many 60+ people in line behind you... How many 60+ people did you see volunteering in Africa? Probably not nearly as many as the 20-30 age guys that you saw. Again, I am not saying that there are no 60+ people who are flexible, like to be extremely active, aren't risk averse, and not set in their ways, but for most 60+ that is the norm. Think about how a volunteer trip or deciding to just travel for a whole summer would be if you were there with someone you were in love with. People who are usually flexible enough and willing to drop everything and do this are usually younger than 60. Again I am not saying no 60+ guys would do this, and the guy you have described might, but I am saying most wouldn't.



On guys your age--I know what you mean. Prospects seem bleak when you are still in school. During my college years I pretty much only hooked up with or "dated" guys who were 40-50, because I thought the same thing. Granted I am not out, so our situations may be different, but even if I was out back then, I had no interest in guys my age who were feminine or pop-culture obsessed (still don't), and those were the only gay people I saw around. That was in 2011, so not too long ago. Once you hit grad school/the real world however, you will start to see and meet other gay/bi guys similar to how you have described yourself. IMO a lot of guys like what you are attracted to still don't end up fully embracing their sexuality until after college. Don't write them all off! Trust me, there are a ton of young gay guys in academia, and it sounds like you are in a fairly large city so they shouldn't be too hard to find if you end up not continuing a relationship with this guy, especially if looking online or at the gym.

It sounds like you still have your own independence and plans for your life, and that you don't seem to be compromising them anytime soon, so dating this guy may not ever be a problem for you it seems.

But have you ever asked this guy what his life was like from 20-30 and what type of guys he dated during that time? What kind of adventures did he get into with them? I proposed these questions to one guy who was 46 (allegedly, I think he was older but I didn't care, he was hot!) who I was hooking up with back when I was 22. He told me about how he had been a rolling stone, pursuing a drag racing career, living with a LT boyfriend during the time, randomly moving to other cities, both pursuing their dreams but still supporting each other, going through hard times and triumphs, and loving every minute of the thrill that came with it. That's when I thought to myself, by pursuing guys who have already been through this time in their lives, am I missing out on sharing similar experiences with someone else for myself? Obviously only you can answer that from how much you know of this guy and every situation is different (for AAGGI it looks like it worked out beautifully for him) but I just wanted you to consider these things.

Very well said.
 
And also like I previously stated, IF you are ONLY PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO GUYS OVER 60, disregard all that I have said on this post, since that is your attraction.

“be yourself- not your idea of what you think somebody else's idea of yourself should be.”
~Henry David Thoreau
 
Glad to see a great debate being deleted but having polls over when you call yourself a man. Good job, mods, really good job.
 
That's the point. This isn't a forum for debate. It's for advice, not for who's right and who's wrong. And it's not mods; it's mod, as in me, Seasoned.
 
Glad to see a great debate being deleted but having polls over when you call yourself a man. Good job, mods, really good job.

ugh.
I didn't expect there to be this much tension over this post. I was here just for advise.
Yes, I would choose F also.
I really don't understand what the fuss is about. Yes, he will probably be dead by the time I turn 40. But, who says I will be with him until then. We are just taking a day at a time like any other relationship.
Thank you everyone for your help.
Like I said, I'll take questions. Just don't act like 4 year olds and bicker over something that shouldn't even be an issue, especially for us gays. Since when did we tell what does or doesn't constitute a relationship. sheesh.
 
^It's ok to express frustration, but careful that you don't pass judgement on advice. In the end, after committing to it, there's only three things to do with any relationship: stay in, get out or postpone the decision to stay in or out. Sad to say, but sooner or later they all end.

I trust people's intentions here even when they're being judgemental. If you didn't have doubts or concerns you wouldn't have posted. You know the pitfalls of a 40 year age difference. We can all assume we know the long term outcome but life also has ways of surprising us.

The OPs who seem to have the most problems with this forum are those that have their minds made up and then ask for advice when what they really want is confirmation of their decision. I don't know if that's the case with you. In any case, you'll probably second guess yourself whatever decision you come to. Facing crossroads and deciding what to do and trying to live without regret is how I became "seasoned."

Since all you have here are volunteers' opinions, in the end, there's really only this, based, hopefully, on sound reasoning and full discussion with this gay: do what feels right to you. If it works, great; if not, hopefully you take away some good memories and a lot more knowledge. And remember, he may say no.
 
ugh.
I didn't expect there to be this much tension over this post. I was here just for advise.
Yes, I would choose F also.
I really don't understand what the fuss is about. Yes, he will probably be dead by the time I turn 40. But, who says I will be with him until then. We are just taking a day at a time like any other relationship.
Thank you everyone for your help.
Like I said, I'll take questions. Just don't act like 4 year olds and bicker over something that shouldn't even be an issue, especially for us gays. Since when did we tell what does or doesn't constitute a relationship. sheesh.

I really hope you understand that I do not personally care who anyone dates unless that person is me. Just offering solicited advice on things you might consider in your decision.

So are you guys are officially together now? If so Congrats and :goodluck: champ!
 
I really hope you understand that I do not personally care who anyone dates unless that person is me. Just offering solicited advice on things you might consider in your decision.

So are you guys are officially together now? If so Congrats and :goodluck: champ!


Thanks again guys.
We have the same problems as any other relationship.
I did discuss everything with him over lunch. We aren't "together" with the traditional definition, but we did promise monogamy to each other. I hope we can both keep it.
We inaugurated this new commitment with some very hot sweaty sex afterwards and some new kinky stuff that I want to keep private haha. Love this guy so much!
Let's see what happens next.

The main take away message I got from this post was to be cautious and always think about intentions.
Thanks again everyone!
 
Hi xplixit, the bottom line for me, and which I think you have followed regardless of what others have suggested or otherwise, is to let love be your guide. If you love him and he loves you, don't let him go. To the other guys who think, 'oh he'll die in a few years' then all the more reason to hang on to him and enjoy everyday with him. Besides, everybody dies, everybody.

If you both find happiness with each other and love each other, try to make it official.
 
This.....the rest is empty rhetoric calculated to impress the armchair anchored author....

I have missed reading your postings here, kallipolis.. and now I remember why. Even though you and I have had our differences over the years, I have always respected and valued your opinions. Rarely have I seen so few words express a thought better.
 
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