Reid commits to DADT vote. Obama ups the pressure

[JayHawk]

Contact your Senator

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

 

[Kulindahr]

Just contact them... all of them so they can know it is what the people want...

Kuli pushed out a link to Sen. Mark Udall that allowed service members to sign onto our voice for repeal...

So far + 66,000 vets signed the petition.

This is the time to spend some of your time making sure congress hears you. I am in the enviable place of having mutliple addresses and although I can only hail from one state i wrote all of the last addresses to let them know (Ohio, Connecticut, Tennessee, Virginia, and California)

This can happen.

Today I sent an email to the Courage Campaign with a link to the "Which one is gay?" cartoon, urging them to ask people to email or mail that to every important Senator.

I have my envelopes ready; in the morning I print cartoons and stuff them.

 

[scream4ever]

Word is now that John Ensign (R-Nevada) supports repeal of DADT:

http://***********/28d7w7o

 

[rareboy]

So.......................

How will the US legislators find a way to fuck all this up?

'Coz you know they likely will.

 

[hotatlboi]

I wonder how McCain is going to flip out next now that the united GOP opposition looks like it's starting to crumble.

 

[rareboy]

My suspicion.

The T-bag fundamentalists are going to rise up and threaten any of their republican colleagues.

The most spineless will cave to pressure and the ones that want to send a message to the t-bag talibani that the old guard is still in control of the larger agenda will vote for...not because they necessarily want to but because if they don't, they are all going to be seen as subservient to the newbies in the house.

 

[Kulindahr]

I wonder how McCain is going to flip out next now that the united GOP opposition looks like it's starting to crumble.

I'm hoping it will mess with his health and he has to resign.

 

[Kulindahr]

My suspicion.

The T-bag fundamentalists are going to rise up and threaten any of their republican colleagues.

The most spineless will cave to pressure and the ones that want to send a message to the t-bag talibani that the old guard is still in control of the larger agenda will vote for...not because they necessarily want to but because if they don't, they are all going to be seen as subservient to the newbies in the house.

I can envision that.

Though I don't want to underestimate the capacity for irrationality.

 

[chance1]

harry reid (instead of sharron angle) and lisa murkowski (instead of joe miller)

i love the irony

 

[Odyssey Number 5]

So you can be an openly ex-con, serial killer, felon, rapist, a dumb as rocks high school drop out, but not openly gay? We truly live in a sick, twisted, warped world! I guess all those other things are considered "aggressive and manly" but being a fag isn't to them I guess.

 

[Kulindahr]

So you can be an openly ex-con, serial killer, felon, rapist, a dumb as rocks high school drop out, but not openly gay? We truly live in a sick, twisted, warped world! I guess all those other things are considered "aggressive and manly" but being a fag isn't to them I guess.

Ex-cons can possibly get a 'moral waiver', if they have few enough felonies and those weren't harm to other people. Serial killers need not apply, felons -- see above, rapists need not apply. Dumb as rocks might get in by pure dumb luck; there are literacy requirements.

Depending on the service, none of those may be allowed.

They didn't even take all of those back during Vietnam, where draftees truly were cannon fodder (or at least sniper).

 

[scream4ever]

Ex-cons can possibly get a 'moral waiver', if they have few enough felonies and those weren't harm to other people. Serial killers need not apply, felons -- see above, rapists need not apply. Dumb as rocks might get in by pure dumb luck; there are literacy requirements.

Depending on the service, none of those may be allowed.

They didn't even take all of those back during Vietnam, where draftees truly were cannon fodder (or at least sniper).

I remember seeing something on Jerry Springer about a guy who was pissed that Obama upped the requirements for intelligence test for military enlistments because he couldn't pass them!

 

[Kulindahr]

I remember seeing something on Jerry Springer about a guy who was pissed that Obama upped the requirements for intelligence test for military enlistments because he couldn't pass them!

Only on Jerry....

I know of a guy who wasn't exceptionally bright and failed narrowly. He got a waiver because of one thing: he was a self-trained sniper, easily as talented as the guy in Saving Private Ryan. For what it normally costs to train a sniper....

 

[Kulindahr]

Notice how all the right-wing hysterical fear and doubt tactics about the Matthew Shepard hate-crimes law has disappeared like yesterday's garbage...

So too will it disappear about dont ask dont tell..

taking bets on just how long that is

Faster even than the left-wing hysterical fear and panic tactics about gun laws that do nothing but let people actually exercise their Second Amendment rights.

Except for a few determined "academics" who will stubbornly try to amass statistics proving the decision was "harmful".

 

[scream4ever]

DADT study to be released one day early, on November 30th:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/11/dont_ask_dont_tell_to_be_relea.html

As far as handguns, I have no problem with people owning them so long as they're psychologically stable, though I do support trigger locks.

 

[JayHawk]

Good news if ever so slight on the study release date. They will be busy enough the first few days with Tax cut extensions and the START treaty, so it shouldnt make a huge difference.

With guns, everyone that is sane and not a felon should have a right. Competent authorities should also be able to easily remove those guns when the owner demonstrates poor judgement. Like having a loaded weapon in a home with no restrictions keeping children in the house away from the weapon. I fully support quick access gun safes. You can even make them recognize your hand print so there is no need to remember a combo in a traumatic situation. Irresponsible use has led to too many tragedies that can easily be avoided.

 

[Knucklehead]

I'm also banking that my underwear collection will accrue value as well

I'd buy a pair or two of lightly scented ones...Just saying..

 

[Kulindahr]

Well the problem there really is just a restricted access or lack thereof to firearms in liberal states and cities when the 2nd amendment provides of the right to firearms that "it shall not be infringed." Although I doubt so many people are doing so to organize a well-regulated militia

Even the militias being organized are not well-regulated in the old meaning of the term, which included making themselves available to their state's governor in case of emergency. I often wish Idaho were on the Mexican border; I'd love to see the result if the governor decided to call up those militias to watch the border.
OTOH, they just might show up, and we'd have dead bodies all around, so... maybe not.

 

[Kulindahr]

DADT study to be released one day early, on November 30th:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/11/dont_ask_dont_tell_to_be_relea.html

As far as handguns, I have no problem with people owning them so long as they're psychologically stable, though I do support trigger locks.

Trigger locks are nice for when you're not around your firearm. One advantage to them is that even if a bad guy gets hold of your sidearm, he's not likely to keep it for the simple reason that a handgun with no place for a trigger finger is uncomfortable to hold unless you're trained.

I got into the habit of just extracting something important, like the transfer bar from my Ruger SP101. That made it still look like a gun, handle like a gun... except with a trigger that wouldn't pull and a firing pin that wouldn't move.

With guns, everyone that is sane and not a felon should have a right. Competent authorities should also be able to easily remove those guns when the owner demonstrates poor judgement. Like having a loaded weapon in a home with no restrictions keeping children in the house away from the weapon. I fully support quick access gun safes. You can even make them recognize your hand print so there is no need to remember a combo in a traumatic situation. Irresponsible use has led to too many tragedies that can easily be avoided.

Correction: DO have the right.

I like quick access gun safes. Unfortunately, they tend to cost as much as a good used car, so they're really toys for the wealthy.

 

[Kulindahr]

Meanwhile, the FRC is organizing their "Save the Military" panic event, a webcast with their "experts"....

I sent back this, to their invitation:

Barry Goldwater said years ago that what mattered was not whether a man is straight, just whether he can shoot straight. As Goldwater remained a staunch conservative until he died, I cannot agree that there is any "radical agenda" here. The repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is in truth a conservative effort, as conservatives hold that a man may do as he pleases so long as he does not harm others. I know a number of good men who have served beside homosexuals, and while they did not approve of their personal lives, they respected them as Americans and Patriots willing to bleed and die for their country.

I have to stand with Barry on this one.